Sk610 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Even last year the park was closed before halloween. I think the first weeked of october was the last weekend if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You guys are right. The season is shorter by 2 weekends. They are usually open till mid October. This year till the end of September. I really think CNL will sell. God I hope so. They are not a Theme park company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkMaxim Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 CNL really has no say in the operation of the park. I would say the most likely thing is, they haven't decided on the fall event yet, and don't want to oversell how long they will be open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaraAB87 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Maintenance and operations and guest services are 3 areas where DL really need to improve, ever been to the park most people who go are miserable while they are at the park, and no this does not apply to all parks because I have never seen such miserable clientele at any other park. Guest friendliness needs to improve, 2 train operation needs to become mandatory for all coasters and cleanliness needs to improve a lot. If this happens and 2 train operation returns and is done well then DL will be a park worth visiting. Otherwise it's a park where you will spend 50% or more of your visit waiting in line for ROS. If you have been to a park that has 2 train operation vs one that does not you know how much of a difference it makes and even the GP can see it, you don't need to be a hardcore enthusiast to see why the line does not move. This, I know when I go to the park I have my enthusiast goggles on and want to see two train operations. However on my visit last year MULTIPLE times in multiple lines I head the GP complain about how slow operations were. And I can saw without a doubt they were by far the slowest operations of any park I visited last year. I think just and improvement on operations & guest services could help this park a lot. This is exactly my point. This park needs consistency, they have areas that are in really bad shape like the inside entrance (the first thing you see when you get to the park), then they have areas that are beautiful like Rowdy's. It's such a drastic contrast that I think it exacerbates the problem even more; aka the dirty areas look more dirty than they would at a park that has a consistent layout, and the clean areas are so clean that they almost look too clean for the park. I am not concerned with rides sitting out in the parking lot out of guest access but I do like the way the park is going, I would prefer they update in a smaller way each year rather than put in a big attraction then not add anything for the next 3 years. This park draws mostly locals, regardless of what we think people are not traveling cross country to see DL just like I am not going all the way to the west coast specifically to visit Lagoon in Utah. Therefore they should be catering to the local market. If they spent a whole year just to refurbish rides and overhaul guest operations I would be fine with that if the park changed for the better. Operations at this park are currently so bad that I will not be returning until it improves in the way of 2 train operation. I am not even a hardcore enthusiast, I don't know a lot about coasters but I do know the manufacturers of most rides, it's cool to know where the rides come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matman-TheRide Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Does anyone know when construction on the new rides will begin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matman-TheRide Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Considering many of you are also fellow residents of western New York, you may be interested in this. I started a separate discussion thread for Seabreeze Amusement Park in Rochester, NY. Go take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk610 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 My guess is that construction will not start until the snow melts. Unfortunately, this year that may not be until late April. Even so, the super loop should be able to be built in a week or so and the same with the waterslide complex. The only question will be how long will it take to build the queue areas and pavement around the waterslide area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Does anyone know when construction on the new rides will begin? It shouldn't take long to have Rolling Thunder up. Carnivals workers have a Super Loop up in a night. It's probably still racked / in trailer mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeagain? Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Don't forget, this is a park model. It doesn't just go up in a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Don't forget, this is a park model. It doesn't just go up in a day. I was being sarcastic. However I did not know Larson offered a Park model. That must be new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk610 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 So rolling thunder is going to be a trailer mount ride just installed in the park? Does anyone know how Elitch Gardens did theirs? I have a hard time believing that SF would add these to a large portion of their parks without being a park model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdude Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Elitch Gardens has a park model, and I'm betting Darien Lake (as well as the Six Flags parks) will be getting a park model as well. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the 22M Giant Loop only comes in a park model and the Fire Ball is the trailer-mounted version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I did some research in Larson's website. It turns out Larson does have a large 72 foot tall Super Loop which is a Park model. However the unit does have down sides. It can't be operated in even a light rain due to hydroplane since it is tire driven. Unlike the Huss Ranger which is Hydraulic, and gear driven. I still am not impressed with the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk610 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Wow if that is true that the ride cannot operate in the rain, that is a pretty major downfall. I know that this isnt disney, and when it rains most people go inside or go home, but even still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I did some research in Larson's website. It turns out Larson does have a large 72 foot tall Super Loop which is a Park model. However the unit does have down sides. It can't be operated in even a light rain due to hydroplane since it is tire driven. Unlike the Huss Ranger which is Hydraulic, and gear driven. I still am not impressed with the ride. Not sure if this is completely true. Yes, the ride is tire driven, but the tires are enclosed in a compartment under the ride. The track of the ride is protected from the outer structure, so it would be pretty hard for water to seep in. Maybe under a torrential downpour hydroplane would become a problem. This ride is unlike the ferris wheel because the rim on that is exposed to the elements, and the tires cannot pull through that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I did some research in Larson's website. It turns out Larson does have a large 72 foot tall Super Loop which is a Park model. However the unit does have down sides. It can't be operated in even a light rain due to hydroplane since it is tire driven. Unlike the Huss Ranger which is Hydraulic, and gear driven. I still am not impressed with the ride. Not sure if this is completely true. Yes, the ride is tire driven, but the tires are enclosed in a compartment under the ride. The track of the ride is protected from the outer structure, so it would be pretty hard for water to seep in. Maybe under a torrential downpour hydroplane would become a problem. This ride is unlike the ferris wheel because the rim on that is exposed to the elements, and the tires cannot pull through that. well the warnings did come from Larsons own website. If it were some other web site I would be skeptical too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I wonder now if they will keep the Ranger? Rolling Thunder is the same ride as I said before, but maybe the Ranger is on the chopping block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I also found this on Wikipedia. "Since the Super Loop-styled rides are tire-driven, even the slightest water build-up on the rim can cause the drive tires to hydroplane on the rim. This action keeps the ride from completing its loop and can sometimes make a loud annoying squeal. It is also not good to operate this ride in frequent lightning." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeagain? Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hydroplaning isn't really a good word for it. But rubber tires on a metal rim do slip with very little water. Even worse if it's only on part of the rim. And it might start the cycle, but stopping is a totally different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 If it were me running the park. I would do away with some of the Campgrounds Along where the Top spin (Twister is, and down all the way behind the Viper all the way to the Amphitheater. I would add in a brand new B & M Winged Coaster. I would also add a Vortex Flat Ride. Any thoughts on that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoast Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Honestly it's a poor idea. I wouldn't recommend removing any attractions for a new addition, let alone Twister which is relatively new. Campgrounds bring in revenue for the park so you're not going to see any removals there either. They've actually increased the size of their accomadations. Lastly, why a B&M wing rider? We'd be lucky to even get a B&M to begin with. If they were ever to go with a major manufacturer I'd rather see a small scale Maverick. I think that would be a better fit. Realistically though, I could see them adding a small Spinning coaster. Just my 2 cents. You can't really sugar coat Darien Lake. RoS was the last significant coaster addition. I would not say Motocoaster is significant. This thread is so full of hopes and dreams it's why it's so hard for me to even read it. If this was a major league park I'd entertain wild speculation, but this is Darien Lake and you're just kidding yourself. On a positive note, very solid additions this year. The GP will eat it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 This thread is so full of hopes and dreams it's why it's so hard for me to even read it. If this was a major league park I'd entertain wild speculation, but this is Darien Lake and you're just kidding yourself. On a positive note, very solid additions this year. The GP will eat it up. This right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Honestly it's a poor idea. I wouldn't recommend removing any attractions for a new addition, let alone Twister which is relatively new. Campgrounds bring in revenue for the park so you're not going to see any removals there either. They've actually increased the size of their accomadations. Lastly, why a B&M wing rider? We'd be lucky to even get a B&M to begin with. If they were ever to go with a major manufacturer I'd rather see a small scale Maverick. I think that would be a better fit. Realistically though, I could see them adding a small Spinning coaster. Just my 2 cents. You can't really sugar coat Darien Lake. RoS was the last significant coaster addition. I would not say Motocoaster is significant. This thread is so full of hopes and dreams it's why it's so hard for me to even read it. If this was a major league park I'd entertain wild speculation, but this is Darien Lake and you're just kidding yourself. On a positive note, very solid additions this year. The GP will eat it up. You misunderstood. I didn't mean take out the Twister. Just the Camp grounds behind it. All I'm talking is to remove some of the campgrounds.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Honestly it's a poor idea. I wouldn't recommend removing any attractions for a new addition, let alone Twister which is relatively new. Campgrounds bring in revenue for the park so you're not going to see any removals there either. They've actually increased the size of their accomadations. Lastly, why a B&M wing rider? We'd be lucky to even get a B&M to begin with. If they were ever to go with a major manufacturer I'd rather see a small scale Maverick. I think that would be a better fit. Realistically though, I could see them adding a small Spinning coaster. Just my 2 cents. You can't really sugar coat Darien Lake. RoS was the last significant coaster addition. I would not say Motocoaster is significant. This thread is so full of hopes and dreams it's why it's so hard for me to even read it. If this was a major league park I'd entertain wild speculation, but this is Darien Lake and you're just kidding yourself. On a positive note, very solid additions this year. The GP will eat it up. You misunderstood. I didn't mean take out the Twister. Just the Camp grounds behind it. All I'm talking is to remove some of the campgrounds.. His point still stands. I'd like my home park, Six Flags America, to build an Intamin Giga coaster in 2016. Is that a good idea? Maybe it is, but it's not in any way realistic, so it's not really worth talking about, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rex Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) "On a positive note, very solid additions this year. The GP will eat it up." Quote of Eastcoast. I disagree with this statement. The Waterslides okay. Rolling Thunder on the other hand is a terrible mistake. For 2 reason I keep repeating. 1 they already have this same type of ride (RANGER) (2) It is a ride plaqued with mechanical problems (Hydroplaning.) WHY DOES EVERONE KEEP KISSING DARIEN LAKES BUTT FOR THIS?! Hey lets go to Darien to ride this new ride that does the same thing as another older ride they already have. I really don't think it will help the park. You mark my words it won't sell any more tickets than last year. Too many people are un impressed, and others will soon figure it out as soon as they ride it. Edited March 9, 2015 by T-Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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