SbSteveZ Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The only thing that makes me think that the removal of thunder rapids is even a possibility is that the (I believe) smaller loft hill was stripped of its conveyor belt lift system. I’m not sure how common that is, but that was really the only thing about it that I noticed. We already have the screamscape rumor of the multi inversion coaster. But if it were even somewhat legitimate, wouldn’t it make sense to put it somewhere else? I hate to jump on the speculation Band wagon but maybe Darien Lake will surprise us in 2018. After all, it will officially be 10 years since their last coaster addition... EDIT: with no relation to my post, here’s some Darien Lake pictures from today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 if it's having mechanical issues I'm sure another company that does log flumes can fix it. I think its an Intamin flume but I could be wrong. Grizzly Run and Shipwreck Falls are both Intamin so maybe I'm mixing them up. Its also the oldest ride in the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride of steel Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 if it's having mechanical issues I'm sure another company that does log flumes can fix it. I think its an Intamin flume but I could be wrong. Grizzly Run and Shipwreck Falls are both Intamin so maybe I'm mixing them up. Its also the oldest ride in the park. Thunder rapids is arrow I belive, and I think intamin or Hopkins or somone could refurb it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk610 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 If the park was removing Thunder Rapids for a new coaster, that probably would have started by now. Don't believe the ride ops or Dippin dots guys ever! Not necessarily... Motocoaster was announced in January, although it didnt need much site prep obciously. ROS was announced in December 1998, but again, no demolition required. I hunt out near the park, so if I notice it disappearing during the offseason ill obviously post it. You are correct, but site prep and footers need to be poured so construction can start. Motocoaster did not require footers as it is a portable model and was placed on a slab of existing concrete and stone fill. ROS was announced in December, but those footers and site prep were done well before that announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 If the park was removing Thunder Rapids for a new coaster, that probably would have started by now. Don't believe the ride ops or Dippin dots guys ever! Not necessarily... Motocoaster was announced in January, although it didnt need much site prep obciously. ROS was announced in December 1998, but again, no demolition required. I hunt out near the park, so if I notice it disappearing during the offseason ill obviously post it. You are correct, but site prep and footers need to be poured so construction can start. Motocoaster did not require footers as it is a portable model and was placed on a slab of existing concrete and stone fill. ROS was announced in December, but those footers and site prep were done well before that announcement. Footers for Valravn weren’t in place until October if I remember correctly, and odds are if there is any sort of new coaster at Darien Lake, it’s not gonna be some 223’ tall megacoaster, with that being said I’d imagine it could be possible that they’re waiting for the season to end before they do anything. Darien Lake has a tendency to quietly do things. Like quietly removing raging seas, UFO, and ranger. They also like to withhold their announcements until past the new year minus the boardwalk announcement which I believe was right around the last month of operation in 2012. That being said, maybe it’s possible.I just hope if it is a possibility that the rest of the park updates that need to happen aren’t neglected again (mind eraser should really have a finished paint job...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjr19 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The only thing that makes me think that the removal of thunder rapids is even a possibility is that the (I believe) smaller loft hill was stripped of its conveyor belt lift system. I’m not sure how common that is, but that was really the only thing about it that I noticed. I did notice the conveyor belt missing from the lift hill, and I also noticed that on the concrete hill between the large drop and the station, there are a few pink markings, but I don’t know if it has anything to do with removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliHorton Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I would hate if they removed Thunder Rapids, that is one of my favorite log flumes. I wonder what type of coaster they would get if they were to get a new coaster? I kind of picture a Premier launch coaster or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Passes same price, refills up to $1.49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I will be curious to know what went wrong with Silver Bullet - that video was certainly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride of steel Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I will be curious to know what went wrong with Silver Bullet - that video was certainly interesting. It looked like an e-stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) The only thing that makes me think that the removal of thunder rapids is even a possibility is that the (I believe) smaller loft hill was stripped of its conveyor belt lift system. I’m not sure how common that is, but that was really the only thing about it that I noticed. I did notice the conveyor belt missing from the lift hill, and I also noticed that on the concrete hill between the large drop and the station, there are a few pink markings, but I don’t know if it has anything to do with removal. I noticed those pink markings too. They were all around the ride. I at first only saw be one right by the turn around but after spending a little time checking out the area I found many many more! Unfortunately because of their placement I could only get pictures of two of them. I think it’s safe to say that something is happening to thunder rapids. Though I wouldn’t jump to conclusions just yet, it is interesting to see. EDIT: it should also be worth noting that it was the only in-park water attraction to be completely drained. Edited October 2, 2017 by SbSteveZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride of steel Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Are any boats on site, or are they in storage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Are any boats on site, or are they in storage? The majority of the boats were out along the side of the queue house. they were visible from the Mind Eraser Bridge. I didn’t check by the “marina” with the lift but I don’t remember there being more than 6 or 7 boats in service. So I doubt there was anything in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride of steel Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 So all the boats are out, probably to be put in the maintenance garage though. This is a ride we should keep a watchful eye on from now until closing. Is the second hills conveyer gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk610 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 ^Today at 5PM was the last operating day of the season for DL. No more opportunities unless someone drives by the park randomly to get a look at what if any activity is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride of steel Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 ^Today at 5PM was the last operating day of the season for DL. No more opportunities unless someone drives by the park randomly to get a look at what if any activity is going on. Oh my gosh I didn't look at the schedule I meant to go again. Well that's that then... Darien lake will return spring 2017....*fades to black* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The only thing that makes me think that the removal of thunder rapids is even a possibility is that the (I believe) smaller loft hill was stripped of its conveyor belt lift system. I’m not sure how common that is, but that was really the only thing about it that I noticed. I did notice the conveyor belt missing from the lift hill, and I also noticed that on the concrete hill between the large drop and the station, there are a few pink markings, but I don’t know if it has anything to do with removal. I noticed those pink markings too. They were all around the ride. I at first only saw be one right by the turn around but after spending a little time checking out the area I found many many more! Unfortunately because of their placement I could only get pictures of two of them. I think it’s safe to say that something is happening to thunder rapids. Though I wouldn’t jump to conclusions just yet, it is interesting to see. EDIT: it should also be worth noting that it was the only in-park water attraction to be completely drained. The triangle is a benchmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I did notice the conveyor belt missing from the lift hill That's pretty common for flumes in the offseason. I wouldn't read too far into it. They need to be replaced quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgolwit21 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The only thing that makes me think that the removal of thunder rapids is even a possibility is that the (I believe) smaller loft hill was stripped of its conveyor belt lift system. I’m not sure how common that is, but that was really the only thing about it that I noticed. I did notice the conveyor belt missing from the lift hill, and I also noticed that on the concrete hill between the large drop and the station, there are a few pink markings, but I don’t know if it has anything to do with removal. I noticed those pink markings too. They were all around the ride. I at first only saw be one right by the turn around but after spending a little time checking out the area I found many many more! Unfortunately because of their placement I could only get pictures of two of them. I think it’s safe to say that something is happening to thunder rapids. Though I wouldn’t jump to conclusions just yet, it is interesting to see. EDIT: it should also be worth noting that it was the only in-park water attraction to be completely drained. The triangle is a benchmark What is a benchmark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymouscactus Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I hate to jump on the speculation Band wagon but maybe Darien Lake will surprise us in 2018. After all, it will officially be 10 years since their last coaster addition... I hope you don't gamble. Same concept. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Haymaker Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The only thing that makes me think that the removal of thunder rapids is even a possibility is that the (I believe) smaller loft hill was stripped of its conveyor belt lift system. I’m not sure how common that is, but that was really the only thing about it that I noticed. I did notice the conveyor belt missing from the lift hill, and I also noticed that on the concrete hill between the large drop and the station, there are a few pink markings, but I don’t know if it has anything to do with removal. I noticed those pink markings too. They were all around the ride. I at first only saw be one right by the turn around but after spending a little time checking out the area I found many many more! Unfortunately because of their placement I could only get pictures of two of them. I think it’s safe to say that something is happening to thunder rapids. Though I wouldn’t jump to conclusions just yet, it is interesting to see. EDIT: it should also be worth noting that it was the only in-park water attraction to be completely drained. The triangle is a benchmark What is a benchmark? The term is generally applied to any item used to mark a point as an elevation reference. Frequently, bronze or aluminum disks are set in stone or concrete, or on rods driven deeply into the earth to provide a stable elevation point. If an elevation is marked on a map, but there is no physical mark on the ground, it is a spot height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I hate to jump on the speculation Band wagon but maybe Darien Lake will surprise us in 2018. After all, it will officially be 10 years since their last coaster addition... I hope you don't gamble. Same concept. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy Guilty as charged! EDIT: “Besides the O-AT-KA request, the Genesee County Economic Development Center’s directors will consider an application from Darien Lake Theme Park for tax breaks that will help finance a $4.5 million investment in a new ride, set to debut next year. Darien Lake’s request for tax breaks will be the subject of a formal board vote in November, if they accept the application on Thursday. In the past few years, Darien Lake has invested more than $15 million in new rides and attractions.” https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2017/10/03/o-at-ka-darien-lake-proposing-expansion-plans-in.html Not sure how reliable the source is but 4.5 million does seem to be a large chunk of change compared to the past few additions to the park. For reference, motocoaster cost 3.4 million back in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I hate to jump on the speculation Band wagon but maybe Darien Lake will surprise us in 2018. After all, it will officially be 10 years since their last coaster addition... I hope you don't gamble. Same concept. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy Guilty as charged! EDIT: “Besides the O-AT-KA request, the Genesee County Economic Development Center’s directors will consider an application from Darien Lake Theme Park for tax breaks that will help finance a $4.5 million investment in a new ride, set to debut next year. Darien Lake’s request for tax breaks will be the subject of a formal board vote in November, if they accept the application on Thursday. In the past few years, Darien Lake has invested more than $15 million in new rides and attractions.” https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2017/10/03/o-at-ka-darien-lake-proposing-expansion-plans-in.html Not sure how reliable the source is but 4.5 million does seem to be a large chunk of change compared to the past few additions to the park. For reference, motocoaster cost 3.4 million back in 2008. At that price you know its not going to be anything spectacular as far as a coaster would be concerned. Consider ROS cost 12 million 19 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Wonder if theres any chance its a new and improved log flume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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