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P. 447 - Halloween Harvest Trip Report

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Halloween Harvest, or “Howl-o-Scream Lite.” Busch Gardens is sticking with its “reservations only/limited attendance” events with Halloween Harvest during October. This is sort of “Howl-o-Scream

It's so weird seeing the park map like that, but at least a half open park is better than a closed park!

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Nice photos, John. Hard to believe that all that left of Drachen Fire is the station, barn, and a few footers.

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Such cool pictures! Thanks for sharing, John!

 

How could a coaster that looked so good have been so bad?

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You might be too young to ever have experienced it. It wasn't as bad as the modern pundits make it out to be. Rough? Sure. But not as bad as many coasters that still exist today.

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... How could a coaster that looked so good have been so bad?

 

I’ve always wondered the same thing.

 

How can a rose have thorns?

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You might be too young to ever have experienced it. It wasn't as bad as the modern pundits make it out to be. Rough? Sure. But not as bad as many coasters that still exist today.

 

I beg to differ on this point. When I rode during its first season, Drachen Fire left me with a throbbing headache, an upset stomach, and a huge bruise on either shoulder. It was simply wretched.

 

They re-profiled it, which helped some--but it was too little, too late. It looked pretty, but felt foul.

 

Yes, Drachen Fire has its fans. As you've probably guessed, I'm not among them.

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I still think -- KNOW -- the restraints on Drachen Fire were its worst problem, thin rubber paint over steel, positioned perfectly to snap your neck. I'm short, and yet my jawbone is what came up against them, not the side of my head. I liked it a lot -- for one thing it was like our private coaster -- but a ride needed to be taken very seriously, because there was a chance of being maimed for life. Other than the restraints, it was maybe slightly rougher than Loch Ness at the time, and less than it is now. They did several things to fix the coaster, but not one thing about the most obvious fault.

 

I didn't ride the original layout. The best part was the drop with the inversion, the Batwing (cobra roll) was decent considering it was Arrow's only one, the airtime hill wasn't really but typical back then. The cutback could hurt you, but appears the inspiration for most "RMC" elements.

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You might be too young to ever have experienced it. It wasn't as bad as the modern pundits make it out to be. Rough? Sure. But not as bad as many coasters that still exist today.

 

I beg to differ on this point. When I rode during its first season, Drachen Fire left me with a throbbing headache, an upset stomach, and a huge bruise on either shoulder. It was simply wretched.

 

They re-profiled it, which helped some--but it was too little, too late. It looked pretty, but felt foul.

 

Yes, Drachen Fire has its fans. As you've probably guessed, I'm not among them.

 

I rode it in 1997 so not sure if thats after the reprofiling. I was 15 yrs old so able take a beating more than I am now. My friend and I rode it was and had zero desire to go back to it, and this was when they only had 4 coasters.

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Yeah, '97 was after they removed the first corkscrew (1994). I'm pretty sure that's the only "reprofiling" the coaster ever got.

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^That would be my best guess. They were shooting for this spring.

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Sort of changing the subject here, but do you guys think Pantheon will open with the park now?

 

I’d guess yes given how delayed the park opening is going to be.

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If this park isn't going to open til mid-June like it seems like it's gonna be, I can bet you that Pantheon will definitely be primed and ready.

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I remember riding Drachen Fire when I was 12 or 13, so I do recall the infamous corkscrew after the MCBR.

 

And I also recall one of the safety rules was "Remove earrings".

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If this park isn't going to open til mid-June like it seems like it's gonna be, I can bet you that Pantheon will definitely be primed and ready.

 

Do we know if work halted or have they been able to continue?

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Drachen Fire was so tolerable that Busch Gardens decided to remove it in just a few seasons.

 

I still think -- KNOW -- the restraints on Drachen Fire were its worst problem

They thought the same thing about T3.

 

If this park isn't going to open til mid-June like it seems like it's gonna be

This year or next year?

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^^-- I never felt like a possible broken neck on an SLC, so much pain from one tap. Nor have I ever been able to ride one almost never touching the horse collar, which was a must on DF, though not easy. I rode it a couple hundred times after my moment of great fear, I don't give up that easily. It had a rare combination of intensity and short lines for the time, but with reasons.

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so cool to see the construction pics.

 

never got to the park when this existed, so sadly never got to try it out myself.. but used to watch videos of it.

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I'm one of those who rode Drachen Fire before the reprofiling, and while it was rough, I didn't mind it too much, and rode on it a second time directly after the first. I certainly don't think it was as bad as many rough coasters that still exist today, but oh well...

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I rode it both before and after. I didn't hate it. In fact I was able to ride it a ton of times in one day (there wasn't ever any real line when I was there), the problem was none of the rest of my family was able to do the same. Probably because I was short when it was open I didn't get my head boxed by the restraints the same way older/taller riders did.

I enjoyed it as a kid, but I completely understand why it doesn't exist. I'm probably more sad that it was part of what helped kill Arrow (of course there were many other things after Drachen Fire)

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While stuck at home, I found this 1997 Press Kit CD from BGW.

 

LOTS of pics of defunct rides so enjoy!

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The cover

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The back cover

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Check out the requirements! I hope I have Windows 3.1

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Remember this 3D movie?

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4th row back in the yellow tank top. Yeah. That's me. We had to ride it 9X for this press shoot. AWFUL!!

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^ WOW!! You find some of the most awesome stuff!! Thanks for sharing!

 

I wonder why Loch Ness Monster no longer has a train in each loop at the same time, like in the above photo?

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