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P. 447 - Halloween Harvest Trip Report

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Halloween Harvest, or “Howl-o-Scream Lite.” Busch Gardens is sticking with its “reservations only/limited attendance” events with Halloween Harvest during October. This is sort of “Howl-o-Scream

It's so weird seeing the park map like that, but at least a half open park is better than a closed park!

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At the park today, whatever the new attraction is, theyve been piledriving all day. What appears to be a station skeleton is built too.

 

How was the crowd in this heat? BG has lots of shade, but it has to be brutal.

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At the park today, whatever the new attraction is, theyve been piledriving all day. What appears to be a station skeleton is built too.

 

How was the crowd in this heat? BG has lots of shade, but it has to be brutal.

 

Only thing weve had to wait for was Verbolten and Roman Rapids so far. Havent been to Griffon, Alpengheist or Invadr yet. Theres a few camp groups but overall crowd is light. Swamp ass is heavy.

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All the coasters were 1 train waits or walk ons except Verbolten. That thing is painfully slow loading. Le Scoot and Roman Rapids were the other long waits.

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Am I the only one who’s upset that Drachen Fire’s plot still stands empty? I always imagined the next expansion would take over back there; I never could have foreseen it going where it is.

 

I took the train on my visit in 2015 and really actually enjoyed the animal enclosures in the area where the new coaster is going.

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^No, I've also been bugged about that plot being empty, ever since Drachen Fire was no longer there! As one of those (apparently few) people who loved the coaster, and didn't think the roughness (even with the removed corkscrew) merited its removal, I've lamented its lack of existence for years now, and the lack of anything directly replacing it has been a bit of a sore spot too. However, I think I've heard that there are some issues with the neighbors in the area back there putting up a stink about noise, which has probably led to the lack of anything new there. However, I'm still holding out hope for a B&M Floorless Drachen Fire tribute coaster back there, and choosing to believe that's why they haven't put anything else there!

 

Another issue that could explain it, is that one of the stated reasons for Drachen Fire's closure is that it had low ridership numbers since it was a bit out of the way (it really was - though not on the level of The Bat at KI or Thunderbird at HW). So they may be gunshy about putting anything else there, unless they build up that entire area alongside it.

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I'm always at a loss to figure out why enthusiasts care about something as trivial as a plot of land that once housed a former attraction now sitting empty. If it was a case of the park never adding anything after a removal I could completely understand, but... like this park adds stuff every year or so... How many coasters have they added since they ripped out that failure of an Arrow?

 

Was there something about the trees over there or what? I'm not really trying to be a dick - help me understand.

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If a park put a giant empty field in the middle of the park I might care, but I've never once even bothered to walk by the Drachen Fire plot because it's in the middle of nowhere. I can't believe they ever put a ride there to begin with.

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It’s not about the Drachen Fire plot per se, but the animal enclosures that used to be on this land that I enjoyed. You could only see them from the train.

 

The Drachen Fire part is only that they have that land they could’ve used instead.

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^ That implies that there'd be anything to remotely care about anything at Darien Lake!

 

Ride of Steel, but if youre near BGW youre near the SFA version.

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I'm always at a loss to figure out why enthusiasts care about something as trivial as a plot of land that once housed a former attraction now sitting empty. If it was a case of the park never adding anything after a removal I could completely understand, but... like this park adds stuff every year or so... How many coasters have they added since they ripped out that failure of an Arrow?

 

Was there something about the trees over there or what? I'm not really trying to be a dick - help me understand.

 

Honestly, it's not something I care THAT much about, and my post (complete with laughing face and winky faces) should be taken with an appropriate measure of exaggerated humor, as that's what I was saying it with. Obviously, it has had zero bearing on my life, and I almost never think about it.

 

But do I wish Drachen Fire had never been removed, as it was a very fun coaster? Yes. Do I wish it had been replaced with something similar there, in the 20+ years since its removal? Sure. BGW is an awesome park, that has put in plenty of awesome coasters since, but nothing that directly replaces Drachen Fire. So sure, why not? It's not like I am upset about it, but I certainly think it is something that would have been nice to have. Do I think they should still utilize that land for something in the future, assuming the locals allow it? Yeah, I think it's a fine expansion spot at some point, in spite of being a little out of the way. Believe me, as somebody who has actually ridden the ride, and gone "way back there", it wasn't that far off the beaten path or out of the way. No more than a number of places in other parks I've been to. The Bat at KI is probably twice as far off the closest midway that Drachen Fire was. Besides, you can always build up that area around it in tandem, and then it's more of a draw, and less out of the way.

 

But no, that specific area, or the trees around it, aren't the issue, and for me, it's as much a musing based on nostalgia for a fun coaster, and a great experience in my youth, that sadly has gone and will never be again. So while it brings a twinge of sadness, as the departure of all things that bring good memories do, it's not something has affected my life in any negative or lasting way, nor do I feel any serious lamentation or depression over its loss, and those comments I posted above were being said in a tongue in cheek, grandiose way!

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Sorry to report that the bacon pretzel across from Verbolten (that was mentioned on this forum) is no longer available. In fact the worker had no idea what I was talking about

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In theory I should be making it to BGW in 2020 so I'm excited for this announcement. If it's like the leak from a few months ago it will be cool, but it will be fun to see what they do with theming and precise placement (not just someone's NoLimits2 rendering/interpenetration)

Lets be really honest though, I love this park so I'm sure I'll like whatever they put in.

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I am very pleased with the addition of a large intamin 45 minutes down 64 from where I sleep.

Heck, I'm pleased with a new Intamin 8 hours and 45 minutes from where I am so long as I can make it there occasionally

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I am very pleased with the addition of a large intamin 45 minutes down 64 from where I sleep.

Heck, I'm pleased with a new Intamin 8 hours and 45 minutes from where I am so long as I can make it there occasionally

 

I agree I am usually very pleased with the addition of a large coaster virtually anywhere. But the more proximate, the more pleased I am.

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