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P. 455: Opening night of Howl-o-Scream!

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They still have the "big boy" seats. They're in rows 5 and 6 of Alpengeist, and there are two in the middle of each row on Griffon (the seats with the double belts).

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I got into Griffons test seat which is the two-strapped seat and the belts where less than an inch from the buckles. I probably could of gotten a ride op to really push down on it and get it buckled but I figured I'd save myself the embarrassment of a potential WOS.

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I got into Griffons test seat which is the two-strapped seat and the belts where less than an inch from the buckles. I probably could of gotten a ride op to really push down on it and get it buckled but I figured I'd save myself the embarrassment of a potential WOS.

 

what I'm saying tho. . is the test seats are the "standard" seats. (I think).

 

the two coasters have specific seats for larger riders tho, once you get to the station.

 

if you get a chance to go back, go to the station and ask, rather than just trusting the test seat.

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Got denied at the test seats for Alpengeist, Griffon

 

That's a bummer since they're easily the two best in the park, but they're a really tight squeeze for me in the front/back. I have no idea where the big boy seats are.

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Got denied at the test seats for Alpengeist, Griffon

 

That's a bummer since they're easily the two best in the park, but they're a really tight squeeze for me in the front/back. I have no idea where the big boy seats are.

 

PSSST. . . Chuck just told you three posts above

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Got denied at the test seats for Alpengeist, Griffon

 

That's a bummer since they're easily the two best in the park, but they're a really tight squeeze for me in the front/back. I have no idea where the big boy seats are.

 

PSSST. . . Chuck just told you three posts above

 

I know. I was making a joke about only riding in the front/back.

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Got denied at the test seats for Alpengeist, Griffon

 

That's a bummer since they're easily the two best in the park, but they're a really tight squeeze for me in the front/back. I have no idea where the big boy seats are.

 

PSSST. . . Chuck just told you three posts above

 

I know. I was making a joke about only riding in the front/back.

 

and I haven't really had coffee yet, so missed you being snarky. . LOL.. . sorry!

 

I've lost a ton of weight since we were at BGW, and having to ride Alpengeist in the middle of the train (in the big boy seat) is probably why I hated it so much (I had no view of the track, so couldn't brace against the transitions). I'll give it another shot later this summer, and will see if I like it better in a front row seat.

 

(I'm guessing I will).

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Alpengeist in the front is indescribable. I loved it a few years ago but our rides two weeks ago were absolutely phenomenal. The push from the train through the elements, mother of god. Also this time it was cold so the freezing blast of air in our faces was an appropriate thematic addition.

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Luckily I've ridden Griffon and Alpengeist in years past so they would not have been new to me. InvadR though was new and the denial truly a bummer. At least I got some new credit hotness out of Tempesto though (shockingly I literally thought there was a 0% chance I could ride that) The seat was huge and comfortable but the sensor for the lap bar just wasn't forgiving. Griffons test seat was two red belts which I believe indicates the larger seats.

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I got a front seat ride on Alpengeist in the pouring rain once. We were laughing at the kid on the end getting water dumped right onto his nether regions going up the lift hill but we forgot all about him soon after; when we were getting pelted with rain drops. Painful but hysterical.

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So interesting question. I heard on another forum that InvadRs test seat is really wonky and some people who can't have its light shine green ever can usually get on the coaster itself no problem. Wondering if anybody here has had this happen with them as well? I was amazed I could not ride InvadR according to the test seat when I was there last week.

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Just wanted to put this out there, the audience of the last show of Celtic Fyre was able to ride the new ride, Battle for Erie. Opening should be very soon, in fact i would assume it would open next weekend.

 

Edit: Rumor has it that the new ride, “Battle for Erie” will open this Friday, April 13th.

 

Also, if you didn’t know, the park will be open April 16th (a Monday) that originally wasn’t on the calendar.

 

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Just got back from a quick 3 day trip to VA.

Was able to do Kings Dominion on Wednesday and Friday with minimal crowds and many rides on Twisted Timbers.

 

Did Busch on Thursday and the park was PACKED which makes no sense. It was freezing cold (38 at the start of the day) and only got into the upper 50s that day. I know it was spring break week but I was still shocked.

 

My thoughts:

 

Rode Loch Ness with the new trains. Same experience and probably rougher. New trains not that much of an improvement. And since they were only running two trains, wait time was 30-60 minutes all day.

 

Did Invadr again. Still pretty underwhelming ride. And with the shorter than normal trains, the wait times are always long.

 

Saw 1/3 of the OktoberZest show. Since I worked in live entertainment at the park from 1994-97, I am VERY familiar with all of the shows. This was a disaster in my opinion. The lack of the iconic round stage (not thanks to ex VP of Ent) has been gone for years and with it the magic. The cast of 10 dancers worked hard, but using only 4 live musicians and a WAY TOO LOUD backing track was distracting.

 

And the "featured" moment with the violinist doing a Cirque type rip-off solo was horrible. I don't even think she was in tune.

 

Battle of Eire was not open. Again, WHY hold a press event a week prior where stories, videos, and pictures are published on the internet but your ride isn't ready to open? By comparison, Kings Dominion held their Twisted Timbers press event and then opened the coaster the next day.

 

Now the biggest WTF for the day was the park's app. I downloaded it and tried to get it to work. However, it only works when on a wifi network.

 

When I tweeted to the park to point this out, they wrote back "

@BuschGardensVA

Apr 5

 

Sorry for the confusion. We do not have park-wide WiFi. We only have WiFi at the front gate."

 

So essentially, the app (which they encourage you to use) is totally worthless.

 

UGH!!

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“Battle for Erie

I'll never tire of this typo. "Battle for Erie" would make more sense at Cedar Point. Battle for Eire is BGW's new addition.

 

Well. My phone sucks. Stupid autocorrect.

 

 

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Am I the only one this whole time who didn’t know the difference? I thought Eire was kind of an odd theme for BGW.

Old-timey name for Ireland, I guess it fits with the mythological theming.

 

After the more modern theming they tried with Verbolten, it's nice to see them return to a more old-world charm with InvadR and now this.

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Am I the only one this whole time who didn’t know the difference? I thought Eire was kind of an odd theme for BGW.

Old-timey name for Ireland, I guess it fits with the mythological theming.

 

After the more modern theming they tried with Verbolten, it's nice to see them return to a more old-world charm with InvadR and now this.

Nope, I meant Erie, like Lake Erie. As in I thought "Battle for Erie" like "Battle for Lake Erie" was an odd name.

 

But would you look at that? I misspelled it complaining about its similar spelling. God this word makes my head hurt.

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It was a while ago (april 3rd) when I visited the beautiful BGW and finally I have time to write about my experience.

 

First, I'm not someone who cares much for theming, but it's really hard not to notice how amazing the park looks. I caught myself looking at the different buildings and structures a lot more than I normally do (which is never) when at a park. And even though I'm Italian, I have to say that the Ireland section of the park was my favorite. I like how the bridge over the river leads you to this arched- fort structure. Then walk through that and the castle is in the back with all the other little buildings. The other sections are well done too, but I thought this one was the best.

 

Ok, so on to the ride experience. We thought about getting their quick queue. That's something I normally will do when visiting a park for the first time and not knowing if and when I will be back. But after about 5 minutes of thinking about it once we entered the park we decided against it. We got there right when the park opened and it didn't seem to be that busy, plus I had heard that they don't let you pick your own row, so we decided to keep our money.

 

We decided to start in the back of the park and work our way to the front, and I think that was a good strategy. So we headed for InvadR first. We were stopped by an employee t the Irish castle saying the area of the park behind him wasn't open yet and while we waited a ton more people showed up and were waiting too. We had second thoughts about not getting quick queue but still stuck to our guns and decided to see how long the lines were going to be. When we were finally allowed past the castle the vast majority of the crowd went left, and not towards InvadR, so I felt relieved.

 

InvadR was a walk on as we were on the very first train, and we got right back on and sat front row, again it was a walk on. My feelings about this coaster differ depending on what kind of coaster it was meant to be. I've heard people say it is a family coaster, and if so it's maybe the best family coaster I've ever been on. RCDB says it's a thrill coaster and if that's the case then it's a very below average thrill coaster. In any case it was a smooth fun ride, just not very thrilling. There were indeed 2 rows roped off for quick queue people. I believe they were the 2 middle rows.

 

Next we made our way to Alpengeist and it was another walk on. I was really looking forward to this ride because it seems like it is so polarizing. Some love it, and some hate it. We walked on twice in a row, first in the front, then in the back. In the front I thought it was an above average ride. I thought it was very forceful and fun. I really liked how it gets low to the ground at times. In the back it was a little rougher but not bad at all. I don't think it is better than Raptor, my #1 invert, but it's giving Banshee a run for it's money at #2. I think I'm going to have to ride Banshee again to make my mind up between those 2. So I loved Alpengeist and I really don't get why some people don't like it.

 

So moving on, we then made out way over to Griffon, and it was about a 10 minute wait for the front row. I was also pretty excited to ride this because I had only ridden Valravn and I wanted to see how much better (if at all) a dive coaster can be without vest restraints. And I would say it's a little more enjoyable but not much more enjoyable. It's still a one trick pony, but the drop is better when you don't have to deal with the suffocating vest restraints. Overall I actually think Valravn's layout is better, but because of the restraints Griffon is a better coaster.

 

Next was Verbolten and it was only a 10 minute wait. This ride is a perfect example of why I do my best to not learn as much as I can about a coaster before I ride it. I had no idea that the entire track was going to drop from under me while in the dark. Until that moment I couldn't remember the last time I screamed on a ride, but when that train fell I screamed like a little girl... I have no problem admitting that they got me on that. And if I had seen a POV or read about the coaster before riding it the experience wouldn't have been as fun. As for the rest of the coaster, it's not bad, but not good. But that one part made it worth it.

 

Now at this point in the day it's probably around noon and the park is filling up fast. We waited 25 minutes for Tempesto, and it was a pretty force-less ride. This one looked a lot more fun than it was. Nowhere near as good as the impulse coasters (i've only been on wicked twister) that I have seen this ride compared to. Tempesto wasn't a bad ride, it just wasn't as forceful as I was expecting, especially the launch.

 

Next we hit Apollo's Chariot and even though the line appeared long it was only 10 minutes or so. The operations on this ride and throughout the park were pretty damn good. I think this is the best ride in the park.I thought it did a good job maintaining it's speed, very smooth, and somewhat intense. The drop is also pretty fun even though it's not the steepest drop in the world. Now with all that said, it failed to deliver the kind of air time I was expecting. And I wasn't stapled in either. We rode this 5 times in all different rows, including the very back, and the air just wasn't there, so that was kind of disappointing. But overall I enjoyed the coaster a lot.

 

So by now the park is jam packed and the proof was the wait time for the only coaster we hadn't been on yet, Loch Ness Monster. We waited an hour and fifteen minutes for it. I haven't waited that long for an Arrow since Magnum was the best ride at Cedar Point. Unfortunately it was not worth the wait. For an Arrow it wasn't bad at all in terms of roughness, but I thought it was running very sluggish, and because of that I didn't find it to be all that fun. The first loop is OK, and the helix in the tunnel would be a lot better if the coaster had more momentum. I actually think the best part of the ride is the small drop and 2nd loop after the 2nd lift hill. You start to gain some momentum but then after the loop the ride is over. I don't want to be too critical because it's an old arrow, but I thought this could challenge Tennessee Tornado for best Arrow looper ever, and it fell well short. I don't even think it's better than Vortex at Kings Island. But for an arrow looper it's above average.

 

We also rode the drop tower which was OK, and the pretty boring train ride. I don't think the train ride did a good job showing off the park at all. A few times we also wanted to ride the skyride because we thought it would be faster than walking, but the lines for that thing were ridiculous. I could have walked around the whole park before getting on this ride. It just doesn't have enough cabins.

 

Now I usually don't talk about the food, because just about all amusement park food sucks, but I was told to expect good food at BGW. And I had both a good and bad experience. First the bad, the Italian food was garbage. The Chicken parm was terrible. The meat was dry and tasteless and the sauce was straight out of a container at the grocery store. Pretty pathetic. I threw most of it out. My cousin had their pizza and ate half a slice. I tried it and it was definitely the worst I had ever had. So still hungry we went to the smokehouse in the France section and that was good. We had some ribs that were pretty damn good. I feel like I should have known better than to try the Italian food, but being Italian I just couldn't help myself.

 

So after we ate we walked around to the coasters and everything was a 45+ min wait. So we went on Alpengeist and Griffon a couple more times and left around 3 PM. I would have liked to spend more time there, but I wasn't going to wait that long for what they have. And an employee even told me this wasn't THAT busy of a day. So if that's true how the hell is Sea World losing money. On one of my Apollo's Chariot rides I could see that every single parking lot was full. And when we were leaving the traffic was bumper to bumper to get in. And that place is expensive, even for amusement park standards. So unless BGW is the only busy park the Sea World owns, it baffles me how they aren't wiping themselves with $100 bills...

 

Overall it was a pretty fun day. I'm glad we didn't get the quick queue because while they don't have a bad ride they don't have a great ride either and they were assigning seats for QQ people on every coaster. So I think that's a waste of money. We got on everything we wanted multiple times by 3 PM, so I can live with that. And we had a long drive to get to Carowinds the next day. So overall it worked out.

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