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The numerous brakeruns, slow sections, and full stops really kill the pacing throughout this ride. When you compare this ride to other family multi-launch-style coasters, (Manta, Cheetah Hunt, Firechaser, even the backlot coasters) I find them all more fun than Verbolten.

I guess the stop-and-go ride fits the theme. It also makes for excellent capacity, I've heard of five trains on one circuit. But it throws away the biggest advantage of a multi-launch, the ability to have relentless pacing.

 

As for the other family launch coasters: Backlot is underrated. After the grayout helix, the intensity is finely balanced. I've heard complaints because the one at KI ruins the view from their Eiffel Tower. I'm told Firechaser is gentler still - but that's not a bad thing, because it also has a lower minimum height, making it better at being the park's family coaster.

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Boring: The numerous brakeruns, slow sections, and full stops really kill the pacing throughout this ride. When you compare this ride to other family multi-launch-style coasters, (Manta, Cheetah Hunt, Firechaser, even the backlot coasters) I find them all more fun than Verbolten.

 

Wait, let me get this right... Firechaser Express has a slow lift hill in the middle of the ride... Followed by a mid-course brake run that greatly slows down the train... and then the train comes to a complete stop in the show building before the launch backwards. But Verbolten has terrible pacing??

 

Anyways, enough Verbolten talk from me...

 

Really looking forward to my visit back to the park next month!

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Boring: The numerous brakeruns, slow sections, and full stops really kill the pacing throughout this ride. When you compare this ride to other family multi-launch-style coasters, (Manta, Cheetah Hunt, Firechaser, even the backlot coasters) I find them all more fun than Verbolten.

 

Wait, let me get this right... Firechaser Express has a slow lift hill in the middle of the ride... Followed by a mid-course brake run that greatly slows down the train... and then the train comes to a complete stop in the show building before the launch backwards. But Verbolten has terrible pacing??

 

Anyways, enough Verbolten talk from me...

 

Really looking forward to my visit back to the park next month!

 

Lol, yeah the lift is in the middle of the ride... I don't even like Firechaser that much - It's pretty stop-and-go, but I feel like it accomplishes what Verbolten tried to (even with a much lower height requirement). I also just think it's coaster-y bits are much more fun and zippy than Verbolten's coaster-y bits (everything after the second launch is SO weak).

 

To be honest, I still haven't really been impressed with any of Zierer's submissions into the large coaster department. Wicked has a great first section, but dies out shortly after. Impulse felt like a worse Eurofighter to me, pretty forgettable sadly. And Verbolten... I wish them luck in the future though.

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I just read someone's review of the park on yelp and they said that if you use quick queue you will not be able to choose your row on most of the coasters. Is that true? I'm visiting the park next week (April 2nd or 3rd) and I was going to get quick queue, but not being able to pick my own row is an absolute deal breaker...

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I just read someone's review of the park on yelp and they said that if you use quick queue you will not be able to choose your row on most of the coasters. Is that true?

 

Just used it last year. Second row was the only row I could ride in on Apollo's Chariots... and second row back were the only rows I could ride in on Alpengeist. Nothing else was a problem!! (But that was just my experience)

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Thanks for the info. That's really disappointing as those are the 2 that I am looking forward to riding the most. Hopefully the crowds won't be too bad when I visit in the early days (Tues or Wed) of the spring break week.

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I was there in 2014. In my own experience, I was not assigned a row for Alpengeist. The quick queue merged with the regular queue at the loading area and I was allowed to wait the extra time for the front. I was assigned a row for Apollo's Chariot though, where the quick queue waited at the exit.

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I just read someone's review of the park on yelp and they said that if you use quick queue you will not be able to choose your row on most of the coasters. Is that true?

 

Just used it last year. Second row was the only row I could ride in on Apollo's Chariots... and second row back were the only rows I could ride in on Alpengeist. Nothing else was a problem!! (But that was just my experience)

We were just at the park on Sunday. InvadR has been added to the Quick Queue. Row 6 is permanently blocked off in the station and exclusively for Quick Queue guests that come up the exit ramp. They were sending train after train with that row empty. Meanwhile, at Verbolten, the line attendant was letting Quick Queue and accessibility pass guests into the main station and choose any row they liked. They only had one of the two loading areas operating at the time and three trains cycling.

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Having ridden both Verbolten and Back Lot (KD) again this weekend, both are totally f*$king awesome little coasters. Got a front seat ride on both and they both went up a bit in my rankings, Verbolten significantly. I think the pacing is great and I love the indoor section. The only point where it loses steam is the drop track section which is a highlight of the ride, and the slowdown/pause on the bridge only adds to the drama of the drop down over the river. The minimal themeing in the black forest is perfect and still looks good. There's not really any airtime to be found anywhere but its still equally thrilling and just flat out enjoyable for me. I regret not riding it more than once yesterday. Also, the trains are one of my favorites.

 

Backlot meanders a bit during the first half, and was running reeeeally slow, almost not making it up the helix, but the tunnel section and drop out of it under the queue is a fantastic finale to a zippy little ride. Alternately, the trains on this are cute but getting in/out really blows. Can't compare either to Firechaser as I haven't ridden it.

 

Also, I'll have a full report but we had such a great time at this park yesterday. Happy to have finally found that craft room @ the Festhaus. Also, Mach Tower was kind to us for once! Such a great line-up of rides, but I need to talk about Alpengeist. Holy f*$ing shit that ride. The cold air added only to the themeing. Front seat all the way, but the back on those snappy parts, good god.

 

Also, unpopular opinion: but Loch Ness Monster is awful. Sorry, I gave it another chance, and it once again attempted to rearrange my spine.

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I've been debating doing a quick write up of our visit yesterday but I don't know how many times I can say things like...

 

- Everything was perfect

- The rides are awesome

- The beer selection is great

- The employees are awesome and in mid-season form

 

...with no criticism of any kind and not have my BGW trip reports come off as a commercial for the park.

 

But yeah that's my report. Their B&M collection, Verbolten, Mach Tower and Pompeii are f*cking phenomenal and the other coasters and rides are all great too. The park is gorgeous. I love this park and everything in it.

 

The end.

 

Happy to have finally found that craft room @ the Festhaus.

 

Damn straight.

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^That sums up BGW quite well. It's still my favorite theme park for sure. Compared with other parks I've been to it's not one I really think of what new rides would improve the park often as I just love it all of it and worry how much a new ride would tamper with its amazingness.

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Busch Gardens really is one of the best parks in the world. The only issue I've ever had (and it's not a knock against the park) is that it always seems to be 100 degrees with max humidity when I visit. Hoping to correct that with an April visit next month.

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Busch Gardens really is one of the best parks in the world. The only issue I've ever had (and it's not a knock against the park) is that it always seems to be 100 degrees with max humidity when I visit. Hoping to correct that with an April visit next month.

 

which is why a stop at the Gelato shop is always a good plan (and then sit and watch the show in the theater (with tables) next door

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Also, unpopular opinion: but Loch Ness Monster is awful. Sorry, I gave it another chance, and it once again attempted to rearrange my spine.

Aw man, that sucks to hear. Hopefully it's kinder to me when I head to the park in June, I rode it last in 2012 and freaking loved the thing. It's like a really fast, looping mine train.

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Yeah Bill and Brit like it. Apparently others do as well. I was pretty eh about it when I rode it in 2016 and didn't care to do it again but after some prodding from Bill decided to give it another chance. For an Arrow from the late 70s its overall OK since it doesn't have corkscrews or ridiculous or awkward transitions. Its all straight drops and reasonable turns. But its the bottoms of the drops and into the loops that was destroying my neck and back - every time it felt like my head and neck were being compressed into my spine. The setting is wonderful, its pretty to look at, no wait was lovely, and I'm happy the park maintains a classic but its just not my bag, baby.

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So I will be visiting the park in Mid August with my family and my daughter is too short for the coasters. I was wondering if anyone knows if the park currently has single rider Lines for the coasters or if just getting a quick que unlimited is a better option so they won't have to be waiting for me if there are long lines?

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Thanks for the info. That's really disappointing as those are the 2 that I am looking forward to riding the most. Hopefully the crowds won't be too bad when I visit in the early days (Tues or Wed) of the spring break week.

You could always take full advantage of the QQ and when the primary queue is reasonable you can jump in and pick your row. We used QQ during one of our visits and did exactly this. During my 3 days at BGW over the past few years I've found the waits on Apollo's Chariot and Alpengeist to be anywhere from incredibly short to station waits.

 

QQ is always useful on Le Scoot. The only time I saw Le Scoot without a 20-30+ minute line was after a severe afternoon storm cleared out the entire park during our last visit... which was FFFing awesome. We rode 4 times without getting off the ride with not a single other rider on board. The only reason we exited was because we wanted to. Ah, the memories.

 

Having ridden both Verbolten and Back Lot (KD) again this weekend, both are totally f*$king awesome little coasters. Got a front seat ride on both and they both went up a bit in my rankings, Verbolten significantly. I think the pacing is great and I love the indoor section. The only point where it loses steam is the drop track section which is a highlight of the ride, and the slowdown/pause on the bridge only adds to the drama of the drop down over the river. The minimal themeing in the black forest is perfect and still looks good. There's not really any airtime to be found anywhere but its still equally thrilling and just flat out enjoyable for me. I regret not riding it more than once yesterday. Also, the trains are one of my favorites.

 

Backlot meanders a bit during the first half, and was running reeeeally slow, almost not making it up the helix, but the tunnel section and drop out of it under the queue is a fantastic finale to a zippy little ride. Alternately, the trains on this are cute but getting in/out really blows. Can't compare either to Firechaser as I haven't ridden it.

 

I feel like rides such as Verbolen, Back Lot, and even Fire Chaser have to be seen from a different perspective in order to be truly appreciated. I enjoy these coasters for what they offer as an overall experience of ride elements and themeing elements. Seeing them as such, as opposed to comparing them to Fury/I305, makes them much more enjoyable. Verbolten is one of Emily's favorite rides and the GP seems to enjoy it.

 

Their B&M collection, Verbolten, Mach Tower and Pompeii are f*cking phenomenal and the other coasters and rides are all great too. The park is gorgeous. I love this park and everything in it.

Amen. The overall quality of BGW makes it one of my favorite parks. I'd probably think differently if Beer Man wasn't present, hence why I have little interest in DW or SDC.

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So can anyone tell me if Invadr is running faster this year? Because this past Saturday was my first time on it and the thing was hauling ass.....It blew me away!

 

Also, I loved the new trains on Lochness! Seemed to also be running a tad faster!

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