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P. 455: Opening night of Howl-o-Scream!

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Hell, a mine train through a heavily themed area makes the ride feel faster. Just imagine a GCI designed to give repeated pops of airtime and quick, but comfortable, transitions through a moderately themed area with tight spaces. I think that's what you're going to have here. I'm putting my money on this for the sleeper hit of 2017.

 

Ive been saying this since the announcement.

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I'm putting my money on this for the sleeper hit of 2017.

 

You're probably right considering this will be one of three custom coasters opening in 2017.

 

 

Invadr, Mystic Timbers, and I'm blanking on the third?

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I'm putting my money on this for the sleeper hit of 2017.

 

You're probably right considering this will be one of three custom coasters opening in 2017.

 

 

Invadr, Mystic Timbers, and I'm blanking on the third?

 

Well, actually there are a lot more than 3 custom coasters opening in 2017. Gold Rush, Drage Kongen, InvadR, Merlin's Mayhem, Mystic Timbers, Pégase Express, Star Trek: Operation Enterprise, Wave Breaker, Intamin Launch at Ferrari Land, Infinity Coaster at Casino Pier. Just to name a few

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I'm putting my money on this for the sleeper hit of 2017.

 

You're probably right considering this will be one of three custom coasters opening in 2017.

 

 

Invadr, Mystic Timbers, and I'm blanking on the third?

 

Well, actually there are a lot moret han 3 custom coasters opening in 2017. Gold Rush, Drage Kongen, InvadR, Merlin's Mayhem, Mystic Timbers, Pégase Express, Star Trek: Operation Enterprise, Wave Breaker, Intamin Launch at Ferrari Land, Infinity Coaster at Casino Pier. Just to name a few

 

Ferrari World's Intamin is basically a worse Kingda Ka clone. It's like if Busch had taken Tempesto and made it like 100 feet tall. I mean it technically IS custom, but I'd pretty much call it a clone.

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Hell, a mine train through a heavily themed area makes the ride feel faster. Just imagine a GCI designed to give repeated pops of airtime and quick, but comfortable, transitions through a moderately themed area with tight spaces. I think that's what you're going to have here. I'm putting my money on this for the sleeper hit of 2017.

 

Ive been saying this since the announcement.

 

We'll see. I think the "mine train" analogy is pretty apt.

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Have they said anything about theming the ride area? Some cheap log cabins and landscaping in there would make this addition much much more appealing, and really transform that area of the park. Even Le Scoot would benefit a ton from looking over that, and the view from the bridge and alpengeist would be great.

 

Also, is there any indication that there will be any construction coverage, or is it just up to the BGW blog?

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Hell, a mine train through a heavily themed area makes the ride feel faster. Just imagine a GCI designed to give repeated pops of airtime and quick, but comfortable, transitions through a moderately themed area with tight spaces. I think that's what you're going to have here. I'm putting my money on this for the sleeper hit of 2017.

 

Ive been saying this since the announcement.

 

Ditto!

 

I'm a big fan of both InvadR and Mystic Timbers, based on everything I've seen thus far! Can't wait to finally get back down to BGW and check this out!

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This was my second visit to Busch Gardens. I enjoyed it just as much as the first time, if not more. It's an amazing park with great attractions and an excellent atmosphere. I really hope to visit again in the future! Be sure to check out my video blog - any comments are appreciated.

 

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I'm putting my money on this for the sleeper hit of 2017.

 

You're probably right considering this will be one of three custom coasters opening in 2017.

 

 

Invadr, Mystic Timbers, and I'm blanking on the third?

 

I was thinking of Wave Breaker (I was also limiting it to the US).

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I'm planning to go this weekend and snag photos of Christmas Town and InvadR. It's a holiday double whammy this week, since Colonial Williamsburg's Grand Illumination is being held Sunday. So, my guess is that BGW will be especially busy on Saturday, not as bad on Sunday.

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We got to check out our first ever Christmas Town as part of the media night and figured I'd share our video here showing off the event.

 

As first timers there my wife and I absolutely loved it! The lights, the shows and of course the hot chocolate were all amazing!

 

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Great video! It looks like a great event, I just wish they'd run more coasters.

 

The event is pretty epic for sure. I agree, I wish they could run more coasters however we totally understand the reasons they don't.

 

Glad you enjoyed the video. Jen and I are branching off on our own now after a couple other runs so support like yours is great!

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however we totally understand the reasons they don't.

 

I'm glad somebody does because we don't. Six Flags seems to have no issue running them at their parks in colder climates.

 

That probably costs way more money to do. Money is something Six Flags has a lot more of than Sea World, although their respective 2017 additions imply the opposite. Also I've noticed the B&M coasters at BGW seem way more reliable than Six Flags'. I can't necessarily speak for Tampa or Sea World, but the B&Ms at BGW are almost never down. I actually can't recall a time where any of them have been. As for Six Flags, I've seen the opposite to be true. I've been to SFGAdv twice and 3 B&Ms were down at some point in the day. I'm not sure if that directly correlates to running them in cold weather, but I assume Busch does it for cost reasons, something Six Flags shouldn't have to worry about as much.

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That probably costs way more money to do. Money is something Six Flags has a lot more of than Sea World, although their respective 2017 additions imply the opposite.

 

Parks that run coasters for their Holiday events aren't running them because they have money to blow, they're running them because they feel that they'll justify their cost by bringing guests to the park and through in park spending (skip the line passes, ride photos and merchandise) just like every other day of the year.

 

I'm not telling them how to run their business, I'm speaking from a personal perspective. I personally have no interest in the event but clearly they do quite well for themselves.

 

Also I've noticed the B&M coasters at BGW seem way more reliable than Six Flags'. I can't necessarily speak for Tampa or Sea World, but the B&Ms at BGW are almost never down. I actually can't recall a time where any of them have been. As for Six Flags, I've seen the opposite to be true. I've been to SFGAdv twice and 3 B&Ms were down at some point in the day.

 

This is anecdotal and ridiculous. We've had Six Flags season passes every year for almost 20 years and go to Great Adventure multiple times a year and I've never seen a B&M closed for mechanical reasons for an extended period of time aside from Superman (but B&M flyers are always slightly more tempermental than their B&M counterparts). Even so, I've never once been there and seen a B&M closed all day which is honestly pretty remarkable. Since we're just throwing around anecdotal bullsh*t though I have been to Busch Gardens Williamsburg and seen Alpengeist down for mechanical reasons all day once, actually on our first ever visit to the park.

 

I'm not sure if that directly correlates to running them in cold weather

 

...no

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Anyone have experience going to Christmas Town during the week between Christmas and New Years? We plan on going Dec 27th and (based on the surge pricing... or lack thereof for that day), I'm hoping that the park will be pretty empty, but just wanted to know if anyone had any first hand experience. Historically, we've always gone on a Friday or Saturday in early December and had run into massive crowds. Hopeful for a relatively empty park.

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That probably costs way more money to do. Money is something Six Flags has a lot more of than Sea World, although their respective 2017 additions imply the opposite.

 

Parks that run coasters for their Holiday events aren't running them because they have money to blow, they're running them because they feel that they'll justify their cost by bringing guests to the park and through in park spending (skip the line passes, ride photos and merchandise) just like every other day of the year.

 

I'm not telling them how to run their business, I'm speaking from a personal perspective. I personally have no interest in the event but clearly they do quite well for themselves.

 

Also I've noticed the B&M coasters at BGW seem way more reliable than Six Flags'. I can't necessarily speak for Tampa or Sea World, but the B&Ms at BGW are almost never down. I actually can't recall a time where any of them have been. As for Six Flags, I've seen the opposite to be true. I've been to SFGAdv twice and 3 B&Ms were down at some point in the day.

 

This is anecdotal and ridiculous. We've had Six Flags season passes every year for almost 20 years and go to Great Adventure multiple times a year and I've never seen a B&M closed for mechanical reasons for an extended period of time aside from Superman (but B&M flyers are always slightly more tempermental than their B&M counterparts). Even so, I've never once been there and seen a B&M closed all day which is honestly pretty remarkable. Since we're just throwing around anecdotal bullsh*t though I have been to Busch Gardens Williamsburg and seen Alpengeist down for mechanical reasons all day once, actually on our first ever visit to the park.

 

I'm not sure if that directly correlates to running them in cold weather

 

...no

 

First of all, I never said they were just throwing around money. I'm not exactly a business expert so I didn't think of every possibility. Plus I was just stating what I saw and my experience. A few B&M's were down on my visits (and only for two hours, tops) and after reading about how Six Flags runs them in cold weather, I thought maybe there's a correlation. MAYBE. You're acting like I spoke like I absolutely knew everything I said was 100% true. Also calm down. We're literally on a theme park forum. It's not the end of the word if I propose some things that may not be true. No need to say what I'm saying is bullshit.

 

Im 16. Sorry I'm not an expert on something that doesn't matter at all like you are.

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Sorry I'm not an expert on something that doesn't matter at all like you are.

 

I never claimed to be an expert, but the people who are experts (the maintenance teams at the park) wouldn't do something that would cause damage to the rides that they spent millions of dollars on. You're implying that running the coasters in the cold is damaging the rides enough that it's rendered them unreliable months later in mild weather. Even though you never stated that as fact (which is an improvement over what a lot of enthusiasts do), to even suggest it seriously is a little nuts. Do you really think any park would do that?

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Sorry I'm not an expert on something that doesn't matter at all like you are.

 

I never claimed to be an expert, but the people who are experts (the maintenance teams at the park) wouldn't do something that would cause damage to the rides that they spent millions of dollars on. You're implying that running the coasters in the cold is damaging the rides enough that it's rendered them unreliable months later in mild weather. Even though you never stated that as fact (which is an improvement over what a lot of enthusiasts do), to even suggest it seriously is a little nuts. Do you really think any park would do that?

 

You missed the most important part of that quote lol. "I'm 16." Explains the part where he got offended and defensive lol

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