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P. 457: Pantheon Roller Coaster POV!

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^Grizzly is phenomenal. That drop was one of the best I have been on.

 

On a side note, the GP can choose between the name Battle Klash, InvadR, or Viking Raider. I think the choosing of the names are cool. Personally I'd go with Viking Raider or Battle Klash because I feel like they sound better than InvadR.

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^Grizzly is phenomenal. That drop was one of the best I have been on.

 

On a side note, the GP can choose between the name Battle Klash, InvadR, or Viking Raider. I think the choosing of the names are cool. Personally I'd go with Viking Raider or Battle Klash because I feel like they sound better than InvadR.

 

I'm not thrilled about any of those names but I'll go with Battle Klash. If it weren't for KD already laying claim to the name, I think I'd like Berserker as a possibility.

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^Grizzly is phenomenal. That drop was one of the best I have been on.

 

On a side note, the GP can choose between the name Battle Klash, InvadR, or Viking Raider. I think the choosing of the names are cool. Personally I'd go with Viking Raider or Battle Klash because I feel like they sound better than InvadR.

 

I'm not thrilled about any of those names but I'll go with Battle Klash. If it weren't for KD already laying claim to the name, I think I'd like Berserker as a possibility.

 

Unfortunately, Kings Dominion has a ride named Berserker probably preventing its use at BGW

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Sorry I mispoke its between 46 inch (White Lightening) and 48 inches. Still allows for kids to ride.

Actually, I just noticed something, that update on the TPR park index was after Verbolten was opened. I forgot that ride is also 48" which replaced the 42" Big Bad Wolf. So if this new GCI woodie also ends up being 48 or even 46" then they still have not filled that gap that Big Bad Wolf left when it closed.

 

And sorry, but your comment comes off as little ignorant to how parks should balance their attractions. Sure, "kids" can ride, but slightly older kids. If it ends up being 48" that means there is still no coaster for kids to ride between 38" and 48" and IMO that's a horrible balance for the park.

 

Even BGT has Scorpion & Sand Serpent for 42" kids and they will be adding another 42" ride Cobra's Curse this year. If this new woodie ends up being 42" then I would agree it's a perfect fit for the park, but at 46" or 48" sorry but that's dumb.

 

If you're going to build a 48" woodie in 2016 and you actually want to get people excited when their other choices are rides like Loch Ness Monster & Verbolten, a 45MPH cute family woodie isn't going to do it. You put a 42" height restriction on that ride, and it suddenly becomes the best thing that's ever happened to kids ages 4-8 years old. And the parents will appreciate it too because they aren't stuck in the "kiddie area" and have their child's "first big coaster" they can ride with them. Brothers or sisters will have a cool fun ride they can take their younger, shorter sibling on, etc.

 

That's the only way this ride makes sense to me, IMO.

 

Think about this for a moment. You know I'm right.

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Will the view be nice? The ride is right up against the brewery parking lot and warehouses. I'm sort of baffled by the location.

 

New France is on the other side of the park away from the brewery.

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Three observations:

 

1. This ride if done correctly will fill two voids A. If it is for families it should have that 42in requirement and B. The park does not have a wooden roller coaster.

 

2. It looks like RMC has not cornered the market and some parks are willing to be a wooden coaster.

 

3. It seems like it will have alot of moments that will throw you our of your seat, I am wondering how many of the hills will be floater vs. injector.

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Will the view be nice? The ride is right up against the brewery parking lot and warehouses. I'm sort of baffled by the location.

 

New France is on the other side of the park away from the brewery.

 

This stuff on the left anyways, is going to be really visible from the lift and turnaround.

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Well, I would take this over a spinner, but I'm not overly impressed. Lightning Run is the only GCI coaster that I really like, the rest range from bad to meh for me. I don't necessarily think that this is a bad move for the park, but there are better options. With Tempesto being on the cheaper side, I was expecting something bigger this time around.

 

Plus, a lot of people are already saying "Wow, 9 airtime hills!", but are these going to be Lightning Run style semi-ejector hills, airtime hills into curves that don't do anything, or something in-between? I'll give GCI the benefit of the doubt here and at least see the layout, but I won't get too excited considering their history.

 

I was planning to return to the park soon, and was debating pushing the trip back a year if something big was being built, but after seeing this, I'll likely visit this year instead. If this is the traditional GCI, I won't be missing too much, and that's okay with me.

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Will the view be nice? The ride is right up against the brewery parking lot and warehouses. I'm sort of baffled by the location.

 

New France is on the other side of the park away from the brewery.

 

This stuff on the left anyways, is going to be really visible from the lift and turnaround.

 

Could be. Depends on how many trees get taken out.

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I experienced ejector airtime on White Lightning.

No you didn't.

 

White Lightning is a super fun ride with some little "pops" of airtime here and there, but it does not have ejector airtime. If you think White Lightning has ejector airtime then you don't know what ejector airtime is.

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^ Robb, just out of curiosity for clarification, do you think Outlaw Run has ejector airtime? I've not traveled to many parks, so for me that is ejector. I also feel like the airtime on American Thunder could be considered ejector.

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The best examples of ejector airtime I've experienced are on El Toro and Maverick. I haven't ridden many GCI's but I've only noticed some floater air (which isn't a bad thing for a family coaster!) Same with the B&M hypers, though it is a little stronger in the back (at least with Nitro).

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I have never experienced ejector air on a GCI either, however, Lightning Racer is one of my favorite wooden coasters and it has some good floater here and there with some awesome turns. I think this fills the void very nicely for the park at this time.

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Well, I would take this over a spinner, but I'm not overly impressed. Lightning Run is the only GCI coaster that I really like, the rest range from bad to meh for me. .

 

Which ones have you been on?

 

Thunderhead and American Thunder are the only other ones that I like. They are fun coasters, but don't do too much for me. I'm just not a fan of twisters in general, but these were decent.

 

Apocalypse, Gwazi, Wildcat, and Roar were all either rough, had boring layouts, or a combo of the two. I might be missing one but out of the 7-8 that I've ridden, less than half of them are ones that I would re-ride. I know that GCI has improved their standards and quality, but their twister layouts are still mostly bad to me. They butcher first drops too by curving them.

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Like Robb said earlier, I find it extremely ironic that Busch is going with a GCI after recently closing one down. Granted, Gwazi was one of the earlier GCIs and their designs have changed a bit since then.

 

Also, BGW has some noise guidances they have to follow, right? Do you think we'll see nylon wheels on this one (like Wodan) to make it less noisy?

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Even BGT has Scorpion & Sand Serpent for 42" kids and they will be adding another 42" ride Cobra's Curse this year. If this new woodie ends up being 42" then I would agree it's a perfect fit for the park, but at 46" or 48" sorry but that's dumb.

 

If you're going to build a 48" woodie in 2016 and you actually want to get people excited when their other choices are rides like Loch Ness Monster & Verbolten, a 45MPH cute family woodie isn't going to do it. You put a 42" height restriction on that ride, and it suddenly becomes the best thing that's ever happened to kids ages 4-8 years old. And the parents will appreciate it too because they aren't stuck in the "kiddie area" and have their child's "first big coaster" they can ride with them. Brothers or sisters will have a cool fun ride they can take their younger, shorter sibling on, etc.

 

That's the only way this ride makes sense to me, IMO.

 

Think about this for a moment. You know I'm right.

 

You are most certainly right. They need something to fit between Grover's Alpine Express and the others. Even Big Bad Wolf wouldn't have done that, though, in my opinion. Regardless of its height restriction I'm not very sure I'd consider it a true family coaster.

 

Here's a fun question - how about a coaster with those kid-sized trains they put on Coastersaurus?

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Here's a fun question - how about a coaster with those kid-sized trains they put on Coastersaurus?

Funny you mention those trains. Those trains took a ride that used to be 36" with the PTC trains and raised it to 42" with the junior Millennium Flyers. So while those could work, I'm still upset that those trains had such a high height restriction to them as well. Raising a coaster height 6 inches especially for a ride meant for little kids is ridiculous IMO.

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