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I went over to the park a bit later in the afternoon (once things were warmed up a bit!) and got quite a few pictures of Tempesto testing. They are below.

 

I also checked out the shows as a good way to warm up. I found Roll Out the Barrel to be fun, if nothing special. You can make it into the backstory of our heavenly pretzel shop if you want, which is cute. Anything's better than Entwined, right? Celtic Fyre has once again made insignificant changes to the dialogue that probably made someone very happy. Also, Conner (the dog) has been fired, along with the little drum band member, replaced by a live violinist. That was pretty cool. I also am finally completely convinced that the singing is live as there was a microphone problem tonight ^_^.

 

On a final note, the pretzel wrapped bacon is currently absent from the pretzel shop. I was tempted by the strawberry shortcake sundae, but alas, I could not brave the cold treat as Chuck did. Perhaps next time.

 

Anyway, the pictures...

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It's testing! It actually isn't a lawn ornament!

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Is this the start of the ride or the end? I forget, so no one will ever know...

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Through the banner!

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Crawl through the inversion...

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I looked like an idiot to everyone else in Apollo's queue taking this, I hope you appreciate it

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Still some railings to go in

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While so much attention has been on it's new neighbor, Apollo's Chariot does have this fine new office chair.

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Seeing Tempesto run with Apollo is pretty cool

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Dive-bombing the old ice cream

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Has there been a picture of the train yet? Do I get a prize?

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I could have stopped but I knew that you'd want more.

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I think this one was the start, so let's call that one before the end.

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I'll add that the general consensus among people was excitement. One guy kept talking about how he absolutely had to take off work to come ride on opening day.

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Kinda side view of train. The harnesses seem to come out a bit.

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Only a few weeks til we can ride!

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It's 40 degrees out- what better way to warm up than a ride through Pompeii?

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I noticed this appear last year near battering ram. Now it's labeled as Gypsy Wagon on the wolf path. The info sign says it's made of wood, but not too much else. What's its park related history?

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I think they had some sort of "gypsy show" years ago, but I never saw it. I guess the wagon is just a prop they move around now.

 

I see that Tempesto's nose cone has been attached. Seemed more prominent in the concept art. Thanks for the photos. I left around 3:30 and didn't see any testing.

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Hah, the nose cone is... interesting... I would think it would be larger and lower on the train. When I first saw it on the hardhat video, it reminded me of the Drachen Fire trains, and I thought maybe they were going for something similar. But as it is now, it sorta looks weird. Overall the trains look great though, and it's neat seeing a three trained version of these guys!

 

Also yeah the wagon was for the traveling gypsie show back in the days of Hastings.

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The thing that has bothered me about Tempesto since they started building it is how ugly the supports are... and how out of character that is for this park. But I like the "banners" that they have hanging from it. I hope they put a few more up, or otherwise hide the supports somehow. That would make for a better looking ride, and a more interesting ride experience!

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^ I could type volumes on the issues I take with this addition, but I'll simply agree that compared with the simple elegance of Apollo's Chariot, Tempesto's supports fare poorly. Offensive as a shoehored-in clone for this park may be, at least it's a clone people have faith will deliver a solid ride.

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The thing that has bothered me about Tempesto since they started building it is how ugly the supports are... and how out of character that is for this park. But I like the "banners" that they have hanging from it. I hope they put a few more up, or otherwise hide the supports somehow. That would make for a better looking ride, and a more interesting ride experience!

 

 

I agree that the banner does give it a nice touch. Honestly I thought they would've added more to the ride than just one.

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^ I could type volumes on the issues I take with this addition, but I'll simply agree that compared with the simple elegance of Apollo's Chariot, Tempesto's supports fare poorly.

 

Honestly I've always thought Apollo's Chariot is one of the ugliest rides I've ever seen, all due to the purple track and yellow supports. Each color on its own might not have looked so bad but the combination just looks bad to me. At first I hated Tempesto's color scheme but it's started growing on me and I like the structure of the supports. However the juxtaposition of Tempesto and Apollo's Chariot in the same picture makes both rides look even uglier and out of place to me. Maybe I'm too harsh but I think all these vibrant colors in one place don't blend well and look very unnatural/tacky in a park so focused on beauty and landscaping

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Festa Italia was originally meant as a "celebration" of Marco Polo's journey to China; thus, it has a "carnival" theme, which accounts for all the vibrant colors. I have no problem with Tempesto's placement there or with its color scheme. I think it's giving Festa Italia a needed shot in the arm.

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Honestly I've always thought Apollo's Chariot is one of the ugliest rides I've ever seen, all due to the purple track and yellow supports.

 

Objectively color science would disagree with you. One look at a color wheel, and some of the schemes chosen for the more vibrant/striking coasters start to make more sense. I think the fact that AC is faded and has simple supports and Tempesto is vibrant/new and has a more dense structure is where the visual complaints come from. Also, as has been mentioned - it's about context. I'd have no criticisms to offer if this were being installed at a Six Flags park!

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I don't mind the placement of the ride itself and think Tempesto is a solid addition, my only problem is the color combinations themselves. I understand the carnevale/festa theming should have bright vibrant colors but there are better ways to do that than making rides with clashing supports and tracks (both purple-yellow and teal-orange are considered color opposites). For me it's all a bit too much. I definitely agree about context though as I hold much higher visual standards for Busch

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Yeah, this thing combined with Apollo's lift in the background is just stunningly messy. Had it gone in a space more toward the back of Festa Italia things might be a lot nicer, but with the two of them practically on top of each other it just looks plain tacky and not at all up to that Busch standard you'd expect.

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Yeah, this thing combined with Apollo's lift in the background is just stunningly messy. Had it gone in a space more toward the back of Festa Italia things might be a lot nicer, but with the two of them practically on top of each other it just looks plain tacky and not at all up to that Busch standard you'd expect.

 

I have to agree - if I had one word to describe this entire project it would be 'sloppy'. I too hold Busch parks to a higher standard than most and this just feels uninspired/thrown together. I hate to be a Negative Nancy but this is how I feel. That said, there's not a thing any of us can do about it and I do plan to ride it when I visit this summer, I just wish they would have been more creative with the location.

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For me, in all honesty, I actually like the color schemes of Tempesto and Apollo's Chariot. I don't mind them. I don't like judging roller coasters by their colors...but rather the ride experience itself after I have ridden it. Perhaps this isn't the best location...perhaps this isn't the Busch standard...perhaps their announcement on Tempesto wasn't the greatest...perhaps would you rather have nothing? I'm looking forward to riding a great looking launch coaster next time I visit BGW!

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For me, in all honesty, I actually like the color schemes of Tempesto and Apollo's Chariot. I don't mind them. I don't like judging roller coasters by their colors...but rather the ride experience itself after I have ridden it. Perhaps this isn't the best location...perhaps this isn't the Busch standard...perhaps their announcement on Tempesto wasn't the greatest...perhaps would you rather have nothing? I'm looking forward to riding a great looking launch coaster next time I visit BGW!

I conquer. It should be a great addition to Festa Italia and will surely increase the traffic in that area of the park. It's been needing some TLC for years now. Despite the ugly, over done support structure, the color scheme is bad ass and contrasts nicely with Apollo's Chariot's. Its certain to spruce up the area. Speaking of spruce, I hope they add a few trees as the entire area could use few. Either way, I'll be front and center

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^ Yeah, I remember Gladiator's Gauntlet! Why the heck doesn't it exist anymore is what I'd like to know!

 

A few pages late, but so be it.

 

I rode this and remember it being a snoozefest, even as a relatively small child. While impressive-looking to spectators, it got solidly underwhelming reviews from riders. Wiki says it was at BGW 88-93. The model is Canyon Trip, Vekoma brought it to the market in '87 and only sold four of them to BGW, Morey's, Nagashima, and a now-defunct park in the UK called American Adventure. Interestingly, I've heard multiple times that it was designed to invert and that BGW tested theirs with an inverting program before settling on a tamer one for guests. It did sport OTSRs. I suspect they didn't wish to experiment with wilder programs for fears of escalating maintenance costs, but that is pure speculation. I'm sure the maintenance was neither cheap nor fun to begin with.

 

Vekoma went on to slightly modify the design to create the Waikiki Wave (non-inverting, introduced 1991 and sold to Lotte World, Kentucky Kingdom, Formosan Village Taiwan) and Wakiki Wave Super Flip (inverting, introduced 1993 and sold to Dreamworld, SFMexico). I believe those last two still operate and, with the inversions, are apparently quite intense and popular. There may be a few more installations, either original or relocated. On the Waikikis, one of the arms is bendable/articulated, instead of the gondola sliding apart/together. And the seating orientation is like that of a Top Spin.

 

A few other companies have made versions of these "screwed up Top Spins", none particularly common: Moser (Maverick), Zamperla (Windshear), KMG (Discovery), Mondial (Supernova).

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For me, in all honesty, I actually like the color schemes of Tempesto and Apollo's Chariot. I don't mind them. I don't like judging roller coasters by their colors...but rather the ride experience itself after I have ridden it. Perhaps this isn't the best location...perhaps this isn't the Busch standard...perhaps their announcement on Tempesto wasn't the greatest...perhaps would you rather have nothing? I'm looking forward to riding a great looking launch coaster next time I visit BGW!

 

Well put! I do think that it's placement looks cluttered. However, all you BGW people are getting a solid coaster. Over here in the SF Bay Area, we've had this for a few years. I've ridden it well over 300 times by my estimation, and it's the best ride in the park. Unique, smooth, fun, and some serious g forces. You'll love it.

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Gladiator's Gauntlet sure looks like it was interesting. I got to ride it's descendent at Six Flags Mexico, and it was pretty thrilling- much better than normal Top Spins!

 

I liked watching the ride cycle- I think the colors are fun and it brings a bit more excitement to the area! I'd like to see a bit more going on near the back of Festa Italia (replace Roman Rapids please!) but at least this is something to accompany Apollo's Chariot. It's placed great to wave to people going up Apollo's lift as well. The rethemed gift shop is quite nice too.

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AC's colors weren't an accident, and they aren't "loud for the sake of loud," they are the colors or Ancient Roman royalty. Also I bet Apollo gets painted soon. It is REALLY faded. Usually the coasters at BGW get painted every few years. I'm shocked it didn't get fresh pain last year for the anniversary.

 

Look at the difference between pre-anniversary LNM and post-anniversary!

 

 

 

I bet once Tempesto fades slightly, and AC gets painted, it's going to actually look pretty cool with the two there. I actually don't really mind it now. Theme parks are supposed to be bright and loud!

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Gladiator's Gauntlet sure looks like it was interesting. I got to ride it's descendent at Six Flags Mexico, and it was pretty thrilling- much better than normal Top Spins!

 

I liked watching the ride cycle- I think the colors are fun and it brings a bit more excitement to the area! I'd like to see a bit more going on near the back of Festa Italia (replace Roman Rapids please!) but at least this is something to accompany Apollo's Chariot. It's placed great to wave to people going up Apollo's lift as well. The rethemed gift shop is quite nice too.

 

I rather liked Gladiator's Gauntlet precisely because it wasn't an intense flat ride--it was just weird and fun. It's too bad they didn't save Sea Dragon.

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^ Definitely agree on Sea Dragon. From what I understand, both Gladiator's and Sea Dragon disappeared because they were a maintenance nightmare. I do recall GG having a LOT of down time, and actually got stuck on it once myself. I don't think Sea Dragon was down a lot, but apparently it had a lot of moving parts for a small flat ride. There's a part of me that always secretly hopes they find a spot to bring it back some day. It was actually a lot of fun/thrills considering it was a grounded flat ride!

 

For the curious, here's the sea dragon:

 

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Well, if you miss Sea Dragon, just head to another European-themed theme park - Europa Park! They just refurbished their Sea Storm Ride, called Kolumbus Jolle, with lights, interactive boats (you control the spin) and canon to destroy two virtual walls!

 

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