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Hello all! I'm new to TPR. Been lurking for a while and just wanted to jump in and say, my family and I will be at BGE this Sunday spending a week in the area with a 7 day pass to Busch Gardens and Water Country.

I haven't been to BGE since 2001 so Griffon and Verbolten will be new to me. (Mach Tower too but a drop tower is a drop tower, right?) I'm taking my lil sis here for the first time and she's really new to coasters. (only 2 under her belt so far) I'm hoping to turn her in to a junkie just like me.

 

Anyone else going to be in either park during this time?

 

I will be at the VA Beach area this upcoming week, and will be at the park for one day, most likely on Tuesday with just my mother who doesn't do rides.

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^^^Y'all should link up.

 

I thought about the animals in that area for ride placement and you may be right.

 

Who knows why the park is stacking rides. Griffon is a great ride but I'm not a fan of it's placement and color similarity to Alpengeist and the new ride might as well loop over AC's lift hill for a hi-five.

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^^^Y'all should link up.

 

I thought about the animals in that area for ride placement and you may be right.

 

Who knows why the park is stacking rides. Griffon is a great ride but I'm not a fan of it's placement and color similarity to Alpengeist and the new ride might as well loop over AC's lift hill for a hi-five.

 

That would be so ***ing cool OMG

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While the theming seems something like that from a Six Flags park from these plans, I'm going to wait and see how it turns out. I thought Mach Tower would be tacky, but I actually really liked its apperance and what Busch did around the ride.

 

The capacity could be a major issue, but the ride is fantastic. I don't care if it's a clone since it's a good one and not a SLC.

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I'd be curious to see whether any large coaster ever goes in Ireland or nearby - it always seemed to me like it's kept quieter on purpose, since that's where just about all of the animals are located.

 

Griffon isn't exactly far from the animals either so I can't see why a few rides, even if it's a couple of flats, couldn't be added to Ireland to create more of a draw there. Killarney has become more of a pass through from Heatherdowns to Acquitaine will very little to make me want to stop and experience anything even though the show in the Abbey Stone Theater is excellent.

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While the theming seems something like that from a Six Flags park from these plans, I'm going to wait and see how it turns out. I thought Mach Tower would be tacky, but I actually really liked its apperance and what Busch did around the ride.

 

The capacity could be a major issue, but the ride is fantastic. I don't care if it's a clone since it's a good one and not a SLC.

 

I agree about Mach Tower. Sure, it's not a great ride, but it does look nice as a giant Maypole.

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I feel like it could go right where the "Williamsburg" is.

 

Please god no. My one gripe with BGE of recent years is all the trees going away. I LOVED the start of Loch Ness pre-Griffon, and Griffon just striaght out ruined it. Actually, Griffon ruined a lot of visual for the park IMO. Yes, it's a beautiful ride, and fun, but I really would have rather seen it go somewhere else, then to get plopped right in the middle, ripping out Le Mans and all the trees. Alpengeist also suffers a little bit from the addition of Griffon visually, but not quite as bad.

 

If they take out those last trees near the gated bridge, I'd rage quit on that park. It's slowly turning into yet another parking lot with rides, and part of what made that park amazing is that it wasn't. I'm not even happy with where the alleged plans for this are as is, but obviously they need to expand somehow.

 

I wish they'd use pre-cleared land first for new attractions. It does exist on their property, they're just hesitant to use it for a variety of reasons.

 

Fortunately I doubt they'll use that land near Ireland, because of the grade and the fact that the closest part that is usable is directly in the path of the Sky Ride.

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^I visited for the first time ever two weeks ago, and came away laughing at any park other than BGW that tries to claim world's most beautiful. Please, don't ever try to claim that THAT place is a parking lot. It's the most gorgeous natural terrain of any park in this country and it still looks incredibly fantastic.

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^ You're more than entitled to your opinion if you disagree, but to me one of the best parts of Busch is walking along and them BAM, suddenly you're struck by something new. Rides being tucked away or hidden, and lots of trees was something that makes this park amazing, and certainly in the minority. Every year you can see more and more of the park from further and further away. I'm not sure I really like being able to see France from Scottland. They used to do their best to make sure things like that didn't happen, and it's feeling less and less like that's a goal anymore. Planting flower gardens is all well and good, but there's no replacing dense forest. Taking out the trees between Ireland and Griffon would be a disaster.

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That said, I'm not thrilled about the rumors inferring more tree removal between the parking lot and festa. I'll be ready to eat my words if it turns out beautiful and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, but right now I'm less-than-optimistic about a clone coaster just getting stuck right next to AC and taking at even more of those trees AC already took out. Then again, you're talking to the person who wishes they themed the exterior of the Verbolten show building instead of leaving it as a green building (maybe this has changed since my last visit?) I miss the park that added new backs to the Wolf village facades when they built Drachen Fire to keep the theming alive.

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I feel like it could go right where the "Williamsburg" is.

 

Please god no. My one gripe with BGE of recent years is all the trees going away. I LOVED the start of Loch Ness pre-Griffon, and Griffon just striaght out ruined it. Actually, Griffon ruined a lot of visual for the park IMO. Yes, it's a beautiful ride, and fun, but I really would have rather seen it go somewhere else, then to get plopped right in the middle, ripping out Le Mans and all the trees. Alpengeist also suffers a little bit from the addition of Griffon visually, but not quite as bad.

 

If they take out those last trees near the gated bridge, I'd rage quit on that park. It's slowly turning into yet another parking lot with rides, and part of what made that park amazing is that it wasn't. I'm not even happy with where the alleged plans for this are as is, but obviously they need to expand somehow.

 

I wish they'd use pre-cleared land first for new attractions. It does exist on their property, they're just hesitant to use it for a variety of reasons.

 

Fortunately I doubt they'll use that land near Ireland, because of the grade and the fact that the closest part that is usable is directly in the path of the Sky Ride.

 

 

WOAHWOAHWOAHWOAH chill. To me it looks like the "williamsburg" is where there's a clearing or trees, and that's why I picked it. Chill out. But unlike most people I really like where griffon is. Yes I wish they had a few trees where it is now, but I like how it has a drop right next to Loch Ness. I do wish that the park hadn't been sold though.

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^^Hmm--exaggerating much?

OH SHUSH it's beautiful and you know it!

 

Oh, it is. I was disagreeing with the poster who was claiming that BGW was ripping out trees left and right.

 

That being said, I've been to quite a few parks in different countries, and there are a few of them that are more "beautiful" than BGW. Tokyo DisneySea and Paris Disneyland come to mind. BGW is definitely in the running, though.

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I'm not disagreeing with it's beauty, that's why I'm saying I don't want them ripping out more trees in what is already a substantially more sparse area than it was 10 years ago! I know tree removal is part of building rides, which is why I'd rather see it happen in an area that hasn't already had mass tree removal recently.

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^Parks plan things out years in advance in anticipation of need and what their guests want. BGW may, indeed, have other plans for already cleared areas.

 

As for Festa Italia, it was "cleared" some time ago. They've also been doing some work on the old Drachenfire site, but I'm not sure what that's for.

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^^Hmm--exaggerating much?

OH SHUSH it's beautiful and you know it!

 

Oh, it is. I was disagreeing with the poster who was claiming that BGW was ripping out trees left and right.

 

That being said, I've been to quite a few parks in different countries, and there are a few of them that are more "beautiful" than BGW. Tokyo DisneySea and Paris Disneyland come to mind. BGW is definitely in the running, though.

BGW gets bonus points for that sculpture in France.

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