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P. 457: Pantheon Roller Coaster POV!

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I have too say this may be one of the worst moves made by the park in a long time (Personally I wish they had kept BBW), They have a chance to really make a great new addition to their lineup and Im not so sure this is the right fit for the park. It seems like it is too low capacity even with a third car, and it also seems like too short a ride for s big Park like Busch Gardens. Now if they wanted to do a more custom model that could hold more people hourly I could see that. The theme of the ride also seems strange given that Festa Italia is suppose to be themed around Marco Polo's travels not a modern carnival. Just seems strange overall this new project, wish it was going to be something else but anything new is better than nothing new.

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The theme doesn't appear to be BMX based but more cycling (i.e. Tour De France) based. Either way, uhhh, interesting choice? Did whoever it was who picked rides for the Paramount parks get hired on at SeaWorld?

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Would the group here be happier if it was a Huss Giant Frisbee?

 

Again, It could be a Boomerang or a Giant Disko and not a certified quality coaster for the lineup.

I think people were expecting something original and well themed, since that is what Busch Gardens is known for. How many clones does BGW have right now? None, so it has became a standard that enthusiasts have became used to. Although, we all know the GP won't know it's a clone and that's all that matters.

As far as themeing goes, I'm not sure what they were thinking with that one.

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Sorry, tone wasn't mean to degrade the Giant Frisbee, just wondering if people would rather have a coaster or a flat ride that is about as good or maybe a bit better.

 

I'll take the coaster, and I'm sure Brian Morrow and friends will give it a pretty solid theme-up in the end.

 

Side note...this is literally the biggest information leak I've EVER seen for a new ride. Not only the ride, or the blueprints, but literally everything down to the Height requirement sign has been leaked. How the hell. Seems fishy

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^^ The concern is about the line. People see a coaster they'll instantly jump in line. People see a flat with a line, they'll come back later. The problem is this model of coaster and a flat have similar capacity, but the flat would manage it better due to the amount of people willing to wait, if you catch my drift. It's a good move for the park as it will definitely attract more people than a flat would, but it also is more than likely going to result in pretty ridiculous wait times. Again, this is a solid ride and works well for smaller parks. Destination parks like BGW, though, simply have too many people coming through the gates. I'm not knocking the ride itself at all. I have yet to ride one but they look awesome and everything I've heard is positive EXCEPT the capacity.

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Ehh...I just think with Three B&M capacity horses+Loch Ness already in tow, plus the additional 6 seats, it really would be less of an issue than it even is at SFDK.

 

I think it'll be a great, welcome addition and fits into the park with the potential theme. Plus, Superman SFDK was only 6 Million, that's pretty reasonable for a launching, thrilling, marketable, skyline-filling steel coaster.

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Destination parks like BGW, though, simply have too many people coming through the gates. I'm not knocking the ride itself at all. I have yet to ride one but they look awesome and everything I've heard is positive EXCEPT the capacity.

 

Plenty of destination parks have added low capacity rides in the past. Wonder Mountain's Guardian has a dismal 650 pph and CW easily pulls far more numbers than BGW does. Same could be said for rides like Roller Soaker and Firehawk. All have terrible capacity and all at major parks that get significant attendance.

 

Side note...this is literally the biggest information leak I've EVER seen for a new ride. Not only the ride, or the blueprints, but literally everything down to the Height requirement sign has been leaked. How the hell. Seems fishy

 

The site managed to get its hands on all Verbolten's information too right down to the shape of the leaf props in the building and all the signs in the queue house. Its nothing new. They pretty much have good hookups on the inside.

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Everyone's talking about how BG gets huge crowds, but I've never had long lines at this park. I think the longest one ever waited in was like an hour. And that was just once, and I've been to the park a lot. Maybe it's just because of the high capacity coasters, but I don't think that Diavolo/Tempesto will get huge lines with the exception of one it first opens. After it opens, give it a few months and it probably won't have that bad of lines.

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Busch definitely gets more crowds than your average park, but I don't think lines are ever that bad since the park is so spread out and the coasters all have high capacities and quick dispatches. I'm sure Diavolo/Tempesto will have speedy dispatches, but the overall model may be limited. I just hope this doesn't turn into a Crush's Coaster situation.

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I was wondering that too like how and y would bg leak all that?

 

It's a cover up to get people looking in the wrong direction....or someone just created all that in their spare time. When the real product is revealed we will all be absolutely overwhelmed.

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In a perfect dream world, I always saw BGW adding an Intamin pre-fab in the area where Drachen Fire once was. Kingsmill really hinders any chance of BGW getting a wooden coaster due to the noise.

 

I agree and that's what I've been hoping for. I don't think the noise would be too much of an issue from a pre-fab, plus it could run a sick out and back layout towards the river using the terrain.

 

We don't like the clone idea at BGW, but the GP won't notice the difference. This is a less expensive project which means that we could see something else major pretty soon. The Wild Maus and Python (BGT) were both clones so it won't be the first time. Ireland is a better location for this ride because of it's small foot print.

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I would actually like the ride way better if it was in Ireland. Then all the coasters wouldn't be so close together.

I concur to this. I was looking at google earth and i feel like they wouldnt have to remove that much in Ireland to put the ride there. They would just need an irish theme. Corcscrew Hill!.....2 image.thumb.jpg.e84b65e33853c6b5d758f6a46a6739f7.jpg

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Festa Italia

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In a perfect dream world, I always saw BGW adding an Intamin pre-fab in the area where Drachen Fire once was. Kingsmill really hinders any chance of BGW getting a wooden coaster due to the noise.

 

I agree and that's what I've been hoping for. I don't think the noise would be too much of an issue from a pre-fab

Well, there's always the intamin fart

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I would actually like the ride way better if it was in Ireland. Then all the coasters wouldn't be so close together.

I concur to this. I was looking at google earth and i feel like they wouldnt have to remove that much in Ireland to put the ride there. They would just need an irish theme. Corcscrew Hill!....

Try these names out:

 

Lucky Charms: The Ride

Headspin (The themed is inspired by drunk Irish people)

Lager Looper

 

[EDIT] Leaping Leprechaun

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I would actually like the ride way better if it was in Ireland. Then all the coasters wouldn't be so close together.

I concur to this. I was looking at google earth and i feel like they wouldnt have to remove that much in Ireland to put the ride there. They would just need an irish theme. Corcscrew Hill!.....2 [attachment=0]image.jpg[/attachment]

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I feel like it could go right where the "Williamsburg" is.

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Hello all! I'm new to TPR. Been lurking for a while and just wanted to jump in and say, my family and I will be at BGE this Sunday spending a week in the area with a 7 day pass to Busch Gardens and Water Country.

I haven't been to BGE since 2001 so Griffon and Verbolten will be new to me. (Mach Tower too but a drop tower is a drop tower, right?) I'm taking my lil sis here for the first time and she's really new to coasters. (only 2 under her belt so far) I'm hoping to turn her in to a junkie just like me.

 

Anyone else going to be in either park during this time?

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