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P. 401: Herschend Enterprises named majority partner and park operator

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12/10? Found the CEO of Kentucky Kingdom.

 

I'm inclined to agree, especially since he said T3 was "great" and "I love it! Such an under rated coaster!" In the words of Admiral Akbar... "It's a trap!"

I actually did enjoy T3. It did have that weird thing about the other SLC's where it kind of shuffled back and forth but I didn't mind. I still thought it was very enjoyable. And I didn't really feel much pain, and I didn't mind the little that I felt. I still think that the Ninja at Six Flags St. Louis and Dragon at Adentureland are the most painful coasters I've ridden.

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I did see Ed Hart walking through the park with another employee. I wanted to get a picture but I thought that would be really weird.

 

And for passing on that, I give you props! Nothing says obsessive, intrusive, enthusiast more than hounding Park GM's and Owners and other VIPs for pictures! So, well done, in showing restraint, and not being one of "those kind" of enthusiasts"!

 

I haven't ridden Dragon, but Ninja does really suck bad! Still, T3...

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I did see Ed Hart walking through the park with another employee. I wanted to get a picture but I thought that would be really weird.

 

And for passing on that, I give you props! Nothing says obsessive, intrusive, enthusiast more than hounding Park GM's and Owners and other VIPs for pictures! So, well done, in showing restraint, and not being one of "those kind" of enthusiasts"!

 

I haven't ridden Dragon, but Ninja does really suck bad! Still, T3...

Do. Not. Go. Near. Dragon. Unless you want the credit, stay far from it. Even those tiny bunny hops out of the station are BAD! The train just clunks over them and it rattles so bad. The two loops aren't too terrible, pretty rattly, the second one is very forceful. But the figure eight, my head got banged around on that. But on the Ninja, I've experienced okay rides on it, and I've had terrible rides. Last time I rode it, there was one train that actually wasn't that bad (must have had new wheels) and then the other train just caused so much headbanging. But I guess I didn't experience as much thigh pain as most people do. My thighs are kind of thick (I'm a runner) so maybe it was kind of just like extra padding? But thanks! I kind of felt like it would be weird to ask for a picture, plus I must have looked terrible. I had just ridden Mile High Falls so I was dripping wet and such. But I still thought it was cool to see him walking around the park, it isn't too often that you see the park president walking around the park in the middle of the day.

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Popped into the park today. Some notes:

1. Medium-ish crowd today. Arrived 2pm and majority of crowds were already in the back half of the park. Still, almost every coaster was an in-station wait.

2. T3 reopened, and is running one train.

3. I have never, ever, gotten more soaked on Raging River Rapids than I did today! Rode with some relatively heavier riders and got some Mile High Falls level of soakage! It was incredible! (For me at least. Two others on the raft looked a bit miserable )

4. Storm Chaser crew were killing it with dispatches today! Had four people checking restraints instead of the usual two. The ride had very low waits times due to eating through people quick.

 

Lapcount: Lightning Run - 2; Roller Skater - 1; Thunder Run - 2; Storm Chaser - 7; T3 - 2.

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I was at the park today for the Koaster Kids Coaster event this morning and I talked to the guy that led the Keys to the Kingdom tour during morning ERT and have "You didn't hear this from Me" update concerning the 2018-2019 update. What he "didn't" say is:

 

"We are trying to balance between the waterpark and the dry side. We're trying to decide how we want to do Steel vs Water rides. We're very close to making an announcement but we're waiting on one more contract to be signed which should be any day now, but you did not hear that from me."

 

So it does sound very much like there will be another steel coaster coming but whether it will be 2018 or 2019 is unclear right now but my money is probably 2019.

 

My first question to him was will KK be planning on bringing a dark ride to the park, and he said No, he (Ed Hart) doesn't want one but that could happen in the future.

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I was at the park today for the Koaster Kids Coaster event this morning and I talked to the guy that led the Keys to the Kingdom tour during morning ERT and have "You didn't hear this from Me" update concerning the 2018-2019 update. What he "didn't" say is:

 

"We are trying to balance between the waterpark and the dry side. We're trying to decide how we want to do Steel vs Water rides. We're very close to making an announcement but we're waiting on one more contract to be signed which should be any day now, but you did not hear that from me."

 

So it does sound very much like there will be another steel coaster coming but whether it will be 2018 or 2019 is unclear right now but my money is probably 2019.

 

My first question to him was will KK be planning on bringing a dark ride to the park, and he said No, he (Ed Hart) doesn't want one but that could happen in the future.

 

Interesting stuff - thanks for sharing. Were you there when Ed Hart spoke? I read elsewhere that he said they are still evaluating what to do based on how attendance has been as they don't want to rack up the debt. To me that sounds like they want to pull the trigger on a bigger project but want to be absolutely sure they can get the numbers right from an investment perspective. Perhaps this season has been softer and they are trying to understand why?

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I noticed the same day of the Koaster Kids event at the park, the Greezed Lightnin' trains were being hauled away. Any idea what's happening to them? Scrapyard or refurbishment for another schwarzkopf coaster somewhere?

Remember when they said those trains weren't on the property?!?! lol

 

If this park were slated for another large coaster in the next few years, where would it go? It didn't appear the park had much room for expansion.

There's room for expansion if need be trust me!

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I was at the park today for the Koaster Kids Coaster event this morning and I talked to the guy that led the Keys to the Kingdom tour during morning ERT and have "You didn't hear this from Me" update concerning the 2018-2019 update. What he "didn't" say is:

 

"We are trying to balance between the waterpark and the dry side. We're trying to decide how we want to do Steel vs Water rides. We're very close to making an announcement but we're waiting on one more contract to be signed which should be any day now, but you did not hear that from me."

 

So it does sound very much like there will be another steel coaster coming but whether it will be 2018 or 2019 is unclear right now but my money is probably 2019.

 

My first question to him was will KK be planning on bringing a dark ride to the park, and he said No, he (Ed Hart) doesn't want one but that could happen in the future.

 

Interesting stuff - thanks for sharing. Were you there when Ed Hart spoke? I read elsewhere that he said they are still evaluating what to do based on how attendance has been as they don't want to rack up the debt. To me that sounds like they want to pull the trigger on a bigger project but want to be absolutely sure they can get the numbers right from an investment perspective. Perhaps this season has been softer and they are trying to understand why?

 

 

I was, and he said last year they had 20% growth I think, and right now they are on pace to match that or exceed it I believe, but yes Ed did say that they were still looking at the attendance numbers to get a feel for their plans.

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If this park were slated for another large coaster in the next few years, where would it go? It didn't appear the park had much room for expansion.

I've heard that KK/the fair board owns the land/parking lot area behind Deep Water Dive, but I'm not sure how accurate that is. If they were to remove the amphitheater from behind T3 that would free up a bit more space, but I'm not gonna count on them removing it.

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I noticed when I was in line for one of the water slides that most of the old Batman Hollywood show that was in the amphitheater was pretty well gone, there was one small section left standing and there were a few RV trailers sitting there.

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If this park were slated for another large coaster in the next few years, where would it go? It didn't appear the park had much room for expansion.

I've heard that KK/the fair board owns the land/parking lot area behind Deep Water Dive, but I'm not sure how accurate that is. If they were to remove the amphitheater from behind T3 that would free up a bit more space, but I'm not gonna count on them removing it.

 

 

The parking lot would make for quite a bit of room. And if they used it for dry park expansion it would make the dry park/water park layout seem more cohesive. It would basically make the water park the exact center of the park. Pretty cool, actually.

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I've never been here before and live in Nashville. Thought about making a solo trip up for a day or two this season for the out of state deal. More interested in dry park than water.

Questions-

How much time is needed for park? Dry? Dry & water?

How are crowds and lines on a weekday?

If I stayed at one of the nearby hotels (Howard Johnson, Ramada, or Super 8) could I park at hotel and walk to park, or would that be frowned upon?

Anything you would want to know on a first trip here?

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We were only at the park for about four hours on a Saturday and we had plenty of time to do everything we wanted in the dry park, with multiple re-rides on Lightning Run and Storm Chaser. We got there in the morning and left around 2. Two days aren't even really necessary for this park, but with the $29.00 out of town deal it would be hard to pass up. I would ride what you want early in the morning, go to the water park for a several hours in the afternoon, and close the day out with the dry park. Take the best of what you liked on Day 1 to do on Day 2.

 

I don't think you'll have any issues walking from your hotel to the front gates. Consider it a non-issue.

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Thought about doing this a Thursday and half a Friday, then doing Beech Bend Friday Night Lights deal on the way home. I'm use to Dollywood's theming, entertainment, and coaster line up, so curious to see KK especially with the deal. And figured staying at a walking distance hotel would save $ on parking.

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We were only at the park for about four hours on a Saturday and we had plenty of time to do everything we wanted in the dry park, with multiple re-rides on Lightning Run and Storm Chaser. We got there in the morning and left around 2. Two days aren't even really necessary for this park, but with the $29.00 out of town deal it would be hard to pass up. I would ride what you want early in the morning, go to the water park for a several hours in the afternoon, and close the day out with the dry park. Take the best of what you liked on Day 1 to do on Day 2.

 

I don't think you'll have any issues walking from your hotel to the front gates. Consider it a non-issue.

 

The out of state deal was something I was thinking about too. I want to ride all the RMC's in the US, I am headed to KI next week and was thinking of spending monday at KK, hard to beat for $30. Park closes at 7pm so then make the 2 hour drive to KI that multi day visit.

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I've never been here before and live in Nashville. Thought about making a solo trip up for a day or two this season for the out of state deal. More interested in dry park than water.

Questions-

How much time is needed for park? Dry? Dry & water?

How are crowds and lines on a weekday?

If I stayed at one of the nearby hotels (Howard Johnson, Ramada, or Super 8) could I park at hotel and walk to park, or would that be frowned upon?

Anything you would want to know on a first trip here?

- Half day if dry only, full day with water park. Unless you just hate water parks, you need to experience this one.

- Crowds are very manageable, though prepare for the coasters to all run one train.

- No idea, I stayed at the Red Lion by the airport, which was good and cheap and close enough to drive. Parking's $8, so I really wouldn't go to great lengths to avoid it.

- Make sure you get on the drop tower. It looks like a carnival ride, but it's way more awesome than it seems. Also if you like spinning rides, I hear Cyclos is good. I avoid stuff like that, so I don't know from experience. Other than that, just ride Storm Chaser and Lightning Run a lot.

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I have a feeling that sometime this month, or early August whatever they are doing will be announced.Mr. Hart did say that their attendance does go up a little bit near the end of July/ early August so time will tell. I two was at the park for Koaster Kid's day and as we where leaving someone (wasn't a no body, this guy worked for the park) basically said "Be sure to come back next year, we will have something BIG in store. But you didn't hear that from me" Whatever they are planning I hope it's a good sized coaster that unlike anything that's been at the park before or currently. IMO i think the park could use either a B&M Hyper or a MACK hyper (don't really have much MACK major coasters in the US!). Rumors are still circling about a raptor or a T-rex and that would be great to.

 

As for the waterpark, Mt. Slide Hai is to be retired after this year and hopefully a new slide complex gets put in there, I would love to see either more drop slides, a half pipe type slide, mat racing slides, or some model of water slides we have never seen. Guess we will find out when we do!

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If I stayed at one of the nearby hotels (Howard Johnson, Ramada, or Super 8) could I park at hotel and walk to park, or would that be frowned upon?

If you're willing to walk to avoid the $8 charge, then you can totally do it with little to no issue (especially from the Howard Johnson hotel). I personally think it's a tad silly when compared to other park's $25+ parking fee, plus the trouble required in walking that far. But that's just me. I've seen people make the trek, so do what works for you.

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I went to the park Sunday and Monday (yesterday) on my park trip and have updates for anyone interested.

 

I was overall impressed by the state of the park. Last time I went it was a falling apart Six Flags property. It's better but the clientele was meh and the ops were pretty bad.

 

A kid came out of the bottom of Deep Water Dive and got pretty decently injured like that child in California a few weeks ago. He was ok but his face was bleeding A LOT and his body was covered in blood from his face.

 

Breakdance was down almost the entire visit. Same with Enterprise.

 

The entire park lost power Monday at 6pm leading to some outrage since the park was so packed. Evacs were interesting.

 

The park was VERY BUSY both days.

 

Half the water park was closed Monday. This included all of Mt. Slide Hai (or whatever it is called). They were supposed to stay open late because of all the operational problems but then the power outage caused the entire park to close early.

 

The ops are better than the Six Flags day but overall it was average to bad operations and average to bad clientele. I left early the first day after 2 hours and went to Holiday World instead. Too bad my second day was worse. I still enjoyed the park but with the crowds and lack of op performance it was pretty bad.

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I went to the park Sunday and Monday (yesterday) on my park trip and have updates for anyone interested.

 

I was overall impressed by the state of the park. Last time I went it was a falling apart Six Flags property. It's better but the clientele was meh and the ops were pretty bad.

 

A kid came out of the bottom of Deep Water Dive and got pretty decently injured like that child in California a few weeks ago. He was ok but his face was bleeding A LOT and his body was covered in blood from his face.

 

Breakdance was down almost the entire visit. Same with Enterprise.

 

The entire park lost power Monday at 6pm leading to some outrage since the park was so packed. Evacs were interesting.

 

The park was VERY BUSY both days.

 

Half the water park was closed Monday. This included all of Mt. Slide Hai (or whatever it is called). They were supposed to stay open late because of all the operational problems but then the power outage caused the entire park to close early.

 

The ops are better than the Six Flags day but overall it was average to bad operations and average to bad clientele. I left early the first day after 2 hours and went to Holiday World instead. Too bad my second day was worse. I still enjoyed the park but with the crowds and lack of op performance it was pretty bad.

 

Outside of cutting you in line, how could another park visitor possibly ruin your experience.

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Other guests didn't ruin my experience but there are many ways that they make the day less enjoyable. There were plenty of line cutters, smoking in line, people just being ridiculously loud and many out of control children in lines. Meanwhile at Holiday World everyone was very pleasant. So no guests ruined my experience but it definitely has an impact for many reasons.

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