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I don't know, the raptor layout looks too similar to lightning run and storm chaser. Plus the raptor track coaster has 1 seat per row and that would make for some terrible capacity. I don't think KK would invest in a third compact, low to the ground, airtime centered coaster.

I realize that I haven't been to Kentucky Kingdom so I -technically- can't talk but my biggest concern about Storm Chaser was that it would end up being too similar to Lightning Run. If they were going to build a third Rocky Mountain / Ride Centerline coaster I would hope that it would be pretty different from those two.

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Hypothetically let's assume kentucky kingdom receives the raptor track layout as their next coaster, it provides a short, compact layout with twisty airtime similar to lightning run. The lift for the coaster is 80 ft, so it's even smaller than lightning run. The only new element on the raptor layout is a barrel roll at the end of the ride. That alone doesn't seem to justify building this in my opinion. Kentucky kingdom needs a different type of coaster in my opinion. Whether it's completely inversion oriented, a family coaster, a launch coaster (etc) just some variety.

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I don't know, the raptor layout looks too similar to lightning run and storm chaser. Plus the raptor track coaster has 1 seat per row and that would make for some terrible capacity. I don't think KK would invest in a third compact, low to the ground, airtime centered coaster.

I realize that I haven't been to Kentucky Kingdom so I -technically- can't talk but my biggest concern about Storm Chaser was that it would end up being too similar to Lightning Run. If they were going to build a third Rocky Mountain / Ride Centerline coaster I would hope that it would be pretty different from those two.

 

Yea, I was thinking that same thing as I was leaving the park today. Both coasters are very similar, very intense, lots of crazy airtime. Maybe something like Verbolten or Cobra's Curse would be a nice contrasting addition.

 

But I think the park is doing some great things right now. I'd like them to see some more flats the next year or so before adding in another coaster.

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This era is an exact repeat of the 90s when Hart was first running KK. He went on a spree and added t2, Chang, and twisted twins within a span of a couple of years between each other. It shows how he likes to aggressively spend and his philosophy of "they'll come if you build."

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my biggest concern about Storm Chaser was that it would end up being too similar to Lightning Run.

 

Even though they kind of have similar design styles (lots of airtime, weird banking, etc), when you're riding you can definitely tell them apart. Storm Chaser feels a lot snappier, with it's rapid roll changes and airtime pops. Lightning Run feels much more graceful in its force and roll applications, if you will. If you didn't know, you wouldn't guess based off of how they feel that they were designed by the same company.

 

 

On another note, only the purple train was running during media day, and apparently that train is running significantly slower than the blue train. Looks like I'll have to head down to ride it again to see if I think the ending is just as awkward. Oh no

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my biggest concern about Storm Chaser was that it would end up being too similar to Lightning Run.

 

Even though they kind of have similar design styles (lots of airtime, weird banking, etc), when you're riding you can definitely tell them apart. Storm Chaser feels a lot snappier, with it's rapid roll changes and airtime pops. Lightning Run feels much more graceful in its force and roll applications, if you will. If you didn't know, you wouldn't guess based off of how they feel that they were designed by the same company.

I spent the whole day at the park today. I can agree that the rolls on Storm Chaser are more sudden, but I also thought Storm Chaser's airtime moments were far more graceful than Lightning Run's. There's a VERY noticeable difference between both, with Storm Chaser being a much more comfortable ride than LR.

 

Storm Chaser was an epic roller coaster! The front seat ended up being my favorite due to the airtime moments being more sudden than the back, plus the front seats had hang-time on the barrel roll first drop! It's also smooth to the point I would have NO problem marathoning! No concerns from me about the finale.

 

Is there a reason the park was so empty this weekend? I assume next week will also be pretty quiet with the Derby? I want to see them do well with such nice investments!

This might have been the reason why:

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I'm sill sifting through photos I shot today.

Saturday saw some pretty heavy rainfall, and today (Sunday) was a close call with bad storms (and still a lot of rainfall). Enough to close the park two hours early, even. But all the bad weather was in the second-half of the day. The first half... you couldn't ask for more gorgeous weather!

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Hmm.. Do you think the park will add anything in the field the gravel maintence road under the second airtime hill leads into? There is a ton of space, and would be even more if they got rid of that weird rectangular pad. Also, do you think they would connect the path behind Thunder Run to Storm Chaser's plaza?

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Hmm.. Do you think the park will add anything in the field the gravel maintence road under the second airtime hill leads into? There is a ton of space, and would be even more if they got rid of that weird rectangular pad. Also, do you think they would connect the path behind Thunder Run to Storm Chaser's plaza?

The one that goes around Thunder Run's big U-turn and past the old dragstrip? They did open it!

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^^ It would be cool to add a large flat ride or two small flats in the area the service road leads to. The rectangle concrete slab is where the old Dragsters used to be. I've been expecting that area to be utilized for a future coaster addition.

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^Thats the one. I would expect flats, but I could see a small coaster heading towards Storm Chaser.

 

Hmm.. Do you think the park will add anything in the field the gravel maintence road under the second airtime hill leads into? There is a ton of space, and would be even more if they got rid of that weird rectangular pad. Also, do you think they would connect the path behind Thunder Run to Storm Chaser's plaza?

The one that goes around Thunder Run's big U-turn and past the old dragstrip? They did open it!

No; a new path created from there that would follow the service road into Storm Chaser's plaza.

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If you didn't know, you wouldn't guess based off of how they feel that they were designed by the same company.

 

They have been designed by two different persons, though. LR is Joe Draves' work while Storm Chaser belongs to Alan Shilke.

 

The two rides ride differently, but what about the part where they are quite similar: their first big airtime hill? Wich one is better in your opinion?

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I have one quick question that I don't see has been addressed.

 

How are the restraints for heavier folks? I fit on Wicked Cyclone last year, but didn't fit on Twisted Colossus.

 

Are their restraints just kind of hit or miss, or are they pretty consistent?

 

Has anyone seen someone have to do the walk of shame on this coaster?

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Has anyone seen someone have to do the walk of shame on this coaster?

 

I can't speak for the other trains, but I did see one walk of shame while I was waiting for Storm Chaser.

 

The two rides ride differently, but what about the part where they are quite similar: their first big airtime hill? Wich one is better in your opinion?

 

I'd have to get a few more rides on SC to really compare. I feel like LRs airtime is more "HOLY S***" than SCs. SC felt more graceful to me, where LR is all about those quick transitions. I was also on the "slow" purple train, so I'm anxious to get back and ride again once it's really broken in.

 

They're both great rides. Happy to have two great new airtime machines at a park that was SBNO three years ago.

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I have one quick question that I don't see has been addressed.

 

How are the restraints for heavier folks? I fit on Wicked Cyclone last year, but didn't fit on Twisted Colossus.

 

Are their restraints just kind of hit or miss, or are they pretty consistent?

 

Has anyone seen someone have to do the walk of shame on this coaster?

 

The restraint sensors on the RMC's do vary wildly from seat to seat when it comes to being locked/green lighted for dispatch. I did the walk of shame twice on the Red train on Medusa (2nd car, back car) but then tried the Orange train and was able to ride. This made me realize it's no fun and risky being at the extreme limit of what can fit.

 

That being said I lost 15 lbs before Twisted Colossus and Wicked Cyclone and was then able to ride both over and over again with no issues. In some seats they didn't even have to push down at all, it was fine when I pulled it down myself. But then some seats required the operator to come and push down. RMC is good gym motivation! I don't think I will go to Storm Chaser or Lightning Rod until I lose 15 lbs again because it is no fun to be turned away

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I'm thinking of making a stop to Kentucky Kingdom on a quick road trip, but the only day that would work would be Monday, May 23rd. They appear to be "open" for School Days but not open to the public. Is there a way to get in that day, or am I completely out of luck?

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I have one quick question that I don't see has been addressed.

 

How are the restraints for heavier folks? I fit on Wicked Cyclone last year, but didn't fit on Twisted Colossus.

 

Are their restraints just kind of hit or miss, or are they pretty consistent?

 

Has anyone seen someone have to do the walk of shame on this coaster?

 

The restraint sensors on the RMC's do vary wildly from seat to seat when it comes to being locked/green lighted for dispatch. I did the walk of shame twice on the Red train on Medusa (2nd car, back car) but then tried the Orange train and was able to ride. This made me realize it's no fun and risky being at the extreme limit of what can fit.

 

That being said I lost 15 lbs before Twisted Colossus and Wicked Cyclone and was then able to ride both over and over again with no issues. In some seats they didn't even have to push down at all, it was fine when I pulled it down myself. But then some seats required the operator to come and push down. RMC is good gym motivation! I don't think I will go to Storm Chaser or Lightning Rod until I lose 15 lbs again because it is no fun to be turned away

 

Thanks for that info. I'm back down 20lbs, but I'm nowhere near thin and probably should give it another 30lbs before I drive all the way up there.

 

I'm pretty sure I gained some weight between WC and my trip to California in September. WC was tight, but I did get two rides on it on different rows. And they didn't have to push and push. The weird thing was TC I couldn't even get the belt locked, it seemed way shorter.

 

I've struggled with my weight my whole adult life, and hope this is the last time I lose this weight and can keep it off.

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I have one quick question that I don't see has been addressed.

 

How are the restraints for heavier folks? I fit on Wicked Cyclone last year, but didn't fit on Twisted Colossus.

 

Are their restraints just kind of hit or miss, or are they pretty consistent?

 

Has anyone seen someone have to do the walk of shame on this coaster?

 

The restraint sensors on the RMC's do vary wildly from seat to seat when it comes to being locked/green lighted for dispatch. I did the walk of shame twice on the Red train on Medusa (2nd car, back car) but then tried the Orange train and was able to ride. This made me realize it's no fun and risky being at the extreme limit of what can fit.

 

That being said I lost 15 lbs before Twisted Colossus and Wicked Cyclone and was then able to ride both over and over again with no issues. In some seats they didn't even have to push down at all, it was fine when I pulled it down myself. But then some seats required the operator to come and push down. RMC is good gym motivation! I don't think I will go to Storm Chaser or Lightning Rod until I lose 15 lbs again because it is no fun to be turned away

 

It's none of my business... but stop torturing yourself with annual diets and exercise plans. Switch to a paleolithic style of eating with periodic cheat meals. Permanently. You'll never have to worry about not fitting on a coaster again. It won't even be a thought.

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You could also try what I have been doing. Ive lost 15 pounds in a little more than a month. I still eat the same foods I always have (minus soda which is rare now) but I literally cut my meals in half. If they bring me a burger and fries i cut the burger in half and save it for later same with the fries. I have been running for about two months as well though and I am running 1-2 miles every other day. I don't crave anything because I am still eating the same foods. Here in a few weeks I am going to switch to a healthier diet now that I have portion under control and will indulge in whatever unhealthy foods once or twice a week.

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I have one quick question that I don't see has been addressed.

 

How are the restraints for heavier folks? I fit on Wicked Cyclone last year, but didn't fit on Twisted Colossus.

 

Are their restraints just kind of hit or miss, or are they pretty consistent?

 

Has anyone seen someone have to do the walk of shame on this coaster?

 

The restraint sensors on the RMC's do vary wildly from seat to seat when it comes to being locked/green lighted for dispatch. I did the walk of shame twice on the Red train on Medusa (2nd car, back car) but then tried the Orange train and was able to ride. This made me realize it's no fun and risky being at the extreme limit of what can fit.

 

That being said I lost 15 lbs before Twisted Colossus and Wicked Cyclone and was then able to ride both over and over again with no issues. In some seats they didn't even have to push down at all, it was fine when I pulled it down myself. But then some seats required the operator to come and push down. RMC is good gym motivation! I don't think I will go to Storm Chaser or Lightning Rod until I lose 15 lbs again because it is no fun to be turned away

 

So what is your waist size, i'm currently 44 waist...Just wondering for data points!

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