Diamondbacker27 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Are there any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdogg68 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Kentucky Kingdom, just posted this on their Facebook Page, We Have Track. First Pieces of Track, for Lighting Run, have arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOGdude25 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I was just about to post that haha. It's about time! Let's hope the construction team is quick with this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlittle Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 ^^ YAY track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgetman82 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Ah, now the moment of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scbt Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Wow, that blue looks really sharp. I'm really looking forwards to seeing this get erected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I still can't understand why they would use the old track style. They have a new better track that they have used perviously, the original hyperlite concept showed that track. This type of track was outdated in the early 2000's, and for a company that have not built any coasters lately you would think that they would bring out the new technology when they are given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Is it weird that I got extremely excited and it isn't an Intamin or a RMC? Track!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotanicalStig Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Purdy. I hope this thing turns out as awesome as it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I really like the color of the track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudvayneimn Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 It's so purdy in person! I'm so glad this is not Magic Spring's Skyloop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyKingdomMike Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Here is more pictures of Lightning Run that member "Shaggy" from http://kicentral.com took a few days ago. http://www.kicentral.com/forums/index.php/topic/22700-kentucky-kingdom/?p=592362 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I still can't understand why they would use the old track style. They have a new better track that they have used perviously, the original hyperlite concept showed that track. This type of track was outdated in the early 2000's, and for a company that have not built any coasters lately you would think that they would bring out the new technology when they are given a chance. It worked just fine for Phantom's Revenge, so I'm not going to complain unless this turns out differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudvayneimn Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 If it isn't broke, don't fix it lol. We will see how that track design works out (hopefully) opening day. I have to say I wasn't really sure if that color combination was going to work at first; man do those colors look nice and rich in reality! Even if the Banshee and Lightning Run turn out to be just "fun" coasters, KI and KK both have very pretty new coasters opening this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I still can't understand why they would use the old track style. They have a new better track that they have used perviously, the original hyperlite concept showed that track. This type of track was outdated in the early 2000's, and for a company that have not built any coasters lately you would think that they would bring out the new technology when they are given a chance. When you say old track do you mean track with rails coming from the outside like arrow's? Because I don't really see any problem with that, just a different style (vekoma is still using it on some of their coasters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I still can't understand why they would use the old track style. They have a new better track that they have used perviously, the original hyperlite concept showed that track. This type of track was outdated in the early 2000's, and for a company that have not built any coasters lately you would think that they would bring out the new technology when they are given a chance. There could be 100 different reasons why they chose that style, but at the end of the day does it really matter? So long as the ride is structurally sound, does it matter at all? I doubt the park is telling Chance, "Sorry, this style of track doesn't look cool enough! We want that OTHER style of track!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lareson Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 It doesn't really matter where the rail is and is by no means, "out of date." I mean, that's all that wooden coasters use is inside rails, where the bogies are on the inside of the track. Just depends on the manufacturer. Arrow used it for their entire coaster lineup, going from Matterhorn all the way up to X/X2. Vekoma still uses it for a majority of their major coasters. Only time that Morgan used an outside rail was when they built Steel Dragon 2000, and that's now using B&M trains. Since Chance acquired Morgan in 2001, they had all of the steel designs for it, so why not use it. It doesn't make a difference in terms of ride experience, but as a design stand point, it does allow a narrower clearance around the track since it doesn't have to worry about clearance for the wheels. Also on an un-related note, didn't realized how many companies went under around 2001-2002. Arrow, Custom Coasters, and Morgan all went under around that time. Boy, that was a rough time for the industry, losing a few of the biggest manufacturers at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgetman82 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Isn't that style of track more inexpensive than other styles anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewRnR Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 ^ I seem to remember Alan S or Ron Toomer back in his Arrow days saying it was more expensive because of the each tie needing to be cut and welded... or something along those lines (inside rails that is). But whats not to say Chance Morgan has a machine that can make this type efficiently now. From cost of materials to design to the trains to the way it manufactured all play in to it. (Even patents play into it - Vekoma licenses the Arrow track design from them if I remember correctly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Alan Schilke designed the train, the wheels layout on LR's trains is similar to RMC's wooden coaster trains. Maybe Chance decided to use the old style track so that Alan doesn't need to redesign the train, therefore they can cut down some expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Peck Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Maybe they went with what works for them. It's worked for Arrow since 1959. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 There could be 100 different reasons why they chose that style, but at the end of the day does it really matter? So long as the ride is structurally sound, does it matter at all? I doubt the park is telling Chance, "Sorry, this style of track doesn't look cool enough! We want that OTHER style of track!" Yes, there is a reason why they are using the old track style, and I would like to know it. Morgan developed the new track for Steel Dragon 2000 that is superior to the old design, and the original Chance Hyperlite was shown with that track, and then they are building this with the old track style. For a company that has not built a ride in so long you would think they would bring out some new technology given the chance. It dosen't really matter if they have improved their skills at shaping the track, the outside design is still superior when designing wheel bogies. It doesn't really matter where the rail is and is by no means, "out of date." I mean, that's all that wooden coasters use is inside rails, where the bogies are on the inside of the track. It maters as it will make a difference in the ride experience when the ride is aging. Inside wheel steel track is outdated, and outside wheel track is far superior. Just depends on the manufacturer. Arrow used it for their entire coaster lineup, going from Matterhorn all the way up to X/X2. Vekoma still uses it for a majority of their major coasters. Only time that Morgan used an outside rail was when they built Steel Dragon 2000, and that's now using B&M trains. And look at how good all the Arrow rides are tracking? Sure they didn't have spring loaded wheel assembly's but still. Steel Dragon is still running with the Chance train, B&M just built the body, most likely because the park was seeking a more open design. Vekoma don't build the old track style anymore, unless someone buys an standard SLC, Boomerang or Mine Train, but I would suspect that they are also moving away from the old track style in their future Mine Train coasters. Since Chance acquired Morgan in 2001, they had all of the steel designs for it, so why not use it. It doesn't make a difference in terms of ride experience, but as a design stand point, it does allow a narrower clearance around the track since it doesn't have to worry about clearance for the wheels. Chance also have the right to the Steel Dragon track. The clearance is not a reason for choosing the old track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Tennesee Tornado used the new inside wheel track by Arrow and last time I rode it I had a smooth ride. I don't think there is nothing wrong with using inside wheel track as long if it is done right. I mean, it just depends on what your experience on the ride is like and not what the track looks like, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkyle Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Tennessee Tornado and the Morgan hypers track amazingly and they use inside rails. I think more then just the style of track goes into how well a ride tracks from how well the pieces are welded together to how the layout is designed. Like you mentioned how well the arrows tracked. Well majority of those were designed by drawing on the shop floor a bent to the shape. Well before the use of computer aided systems designing the layouts. Other then it being your own opinion where is the research on whether one is far more superior then the other design. To me this like trying to argue to why Intamin still uses the lattice track and over the new spine track they developed. I'm sure there's a reason why they chose this style over the other and unless your apart of the design team between KK and Chance we may never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Can someone site some examples as to why the new style track is superior? Just because it is new doesn't necessarily make it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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