Al505 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 For someone like me to cry over a ride is sad but the monorail is one or the first ever ride i ever went on so to see it crash is very sad for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 More bad news. Two WDW buses crashed just outside of the Contemporary Resort this afternoon. Thankfully, no one was killed. Â www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-disney-bus-crash-07162009,0,3587261.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull24471 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 OK so if there is a computer system installed with light or radio frequency positioning why didn't the computer have capability to shut down power to that section of the ride??? This system is probably state of the art as with almost all Disney rides and attractions so it should have a 2nd and 3rd backup system. I don't know how this could happen on a attraction that is one of the safest people movers in the world.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandaman Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 From what I understand, in order to back up onto the switch, the driver must manually override the system which would otherwise trigger proximity sensors for an automatic shutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjaco Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 For those curious, Monorail Teal has made it's debut this week. It's the combination of the two trains in the accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Yep, certainly good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 A Marlins colored monorail.. I approve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Funny it's called Monorail "Teal." It looks more like baby blue to me. The fact that they had to put that strip of white on it to differentiate it makes me wonder---there wasn't actual teal colored paint in stock? Â Regardless, it's good that they were able to salvage enough of the two crashed trains to create a new one. I wonder if there's a memorial plaque somewhere to Austin Wuennenberg? Â Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 ^ Eric, I've wondered the same thing about a plaque, but haven't heard anything yet. Â As for the colors, it's similar with Pink/Coral, Green/Lime too. They both have deltas to distinguish them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjaco Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 An additional monorail is to come on line in the next year too, if I recall correctly. Â I thought the same thing about the colors when I saw the Teal and Blue monorail pictures. Couldn't tell the difference with the exception of the delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenflames Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I kind of like the new teal color, but I think it would be a little eerie if I were to ever ride it, after knowing that it's really just the remains of Pink and Purple. But seeing any of the WDW monorails makes me smile, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 A little update.  The U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration cited Disney for one "serious" safety violation that contributed to the July 5 accident, which occurred as one of Disney's trains was driving in reverse during a botched track switch and backed into another train, killing driver Austin Wuennenberg of Kissimmee. The agency said Disney failed to recognize the potential hazards of driving the trains in reverse, noting, for instance, that resort did not follow a 20-year-old operating guide written by the train's manufacturer, Bombardier Inc., which recommended that, any time a train is reversing, an observer be positioned watching the opposite end. Disney on Sunday began requiring spotters when a train is backing up.  The fine for the one violation related to accident was $7,000, but they found others that added up to a total fine of $44,000. The original article is from the Sun Sentinel, and can be found HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Fair enough. Disney didn't follow the manufacturers instructions, and they paid a price for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I'm really amazed that the monorail trains aren't equipped with a rear camera, mirrors, or something to watch behind when a train is backing up. Even putting someone back there with a walkie talkie would have been better. Â Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjaco Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 They do have mirrors. Â Try seeing behind you with six cars in front of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 ^ Especially on a curve, if that was the case. Perhaps the best way to do a backup operation is to have someone in the back car looking out and communicating via radio/walkie talkie/phone. Â Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkologist Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 ^So true. A pilot and control unit is needed at each end and one can override the other. Â A little off topic...but when I go next summer, I'll wait for another train if the teal one shows up. I don't like going places where people died (hospitals and retirement homes especially) but I'm fine with cemeteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 ^ I understand your apprehension about going where people have died, but remember that people have died on most major highways. Are you going to avoid certain stretches of roads because of that? Are you going to avoid riding any rides where people have died? People die where they die. Â Just saying... Â Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkologist Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 ^Sometimes. With other rides where people died on them It's iffy like i ride Timberwolf at WoF every year and I dont mind becuase that girl died on the ground next to the ride, not on the ride itself. But...on the other hand, I wont ride BTMRat Disneyland (but I've never been there) in the front car of what is it #3? because thats where the person died and I would ride anywhere else on the train because they died there and I'm here. I don't think about roads because am I in the car that they died in? No. I'm in a different car. Â I'm weird. I have come to face the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 A little off topic...but when I go next summer, I'll wait for another train if the teal one shows up. I don't like going places where people died (hospitals and retirement homes especially) but I'm fine with cemeteries. Â Sounds like you may have a pretty uneventful visit. Â People have died on, or as a result of riding: Â Space Mountain, The Haunted Mansion, the Monorail, Mission: Space, Soarin', Rock `n' Roller Coaster, Expedition Everest, Primeval Whirl, POTC, Splash Mountain, the Wave Pool at Typhoon Lagoon (and probably etc. etc. etc.). Thankfully for you, the Skyway is no longer there...... but still, watch where you step in Fantasyland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkologist Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I know but most of them weren't caused by the rides but by some disease or condition a rider had and shouldn't have ridden or been allowed to ride. As said, it's very iffy and why I won't ride that car on BTMR at Disneyland. The cars weight killed that person not a disorder. That's why. But I'd probably ride those anyway the credit whore that I am who has an embarrassing coaster count. Â This is getting off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Alex Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 ^ At this rate, I'm sure the seat that Marcelo Torres died in has since been replaced, as well as that entire car. I saw photos from the crash site on the internet a year or so ago, and there's no way that exact car is in service. It had to be entirely rebuilt for that thing to roll the rails again. Â There's really no way around this issue. People die. And they die where they die, as said above. Folks fail to realize that you are, in fact, taking a risk by hoping on an amusement ride. No matter how flashy it is, the thing is still a machines. Machines break, no matter what we do to prevent it. The circle of life. So you can cower about what has (and possibly could) happen, or you can realize that the chance of you dying a theme park death is very, very minimal. You're more likely to die in a car crash or from food poisining. Â Â Back on topic, I agree that more posts should be added to the lines if this is a true issue. Rear-facing cameras/personnel should have been done already, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical_echo Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I really don't see why everyone is badgering the guy about his fear. We all have fears, and a lot of times, those fears are irrational and make no sense at all. No sense is trying to talk him out of his fear; it's something he has to deal with on his own. Â Anyways, yea, back on topic...cameras or a pilot in the last car should be something they look into. That, or following the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 It wouldn't be a phobia, even a mild one, if it was rational. Â Beemerboy, I've heard about several of those deaths, but I've never heard of one on Soarin'. Are there any details about this incident? Â Squid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 ^ Well, it was one of those that fall into the category of "died after riding," but anyway, here's a short article that mentions it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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