mcjaco Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 ^ How many of them do you want to bet use Apple porducts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 ^Speaking of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiSab Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 ^Classic. Westboro is a bunch of brainwashed morons. But we already knew that, didn't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 I wish the Westboro folks would just drink the punch already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanic Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 RIP Al Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Why would you protest a funeral? It makes no sense, if you wanted to protest against Steve Jobs, you could've done it when he was ALIVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 ^Wonder how that worked out for them since it was private in a non-disclosed location? I did not see anything about them finding it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Why would you protest a funeral? It makes no sense, if you wanted to protest against Steve Jobs, you could've done it when he was ALIVE. You protest to gain attention to yourself or your cause. It has nothing to do about Jobs or Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeboy23 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) IndyCar driver Dan Wheldon died in a 15 car crash today: espn.go.com/racing/indycar/story/_/id/7111712/dan-wheldon-dies-following-indycar-crash-vegas LAS VEGAS -- Dan Wheldon, the 2011 Indianapolis 500 winner and one of the most popular drivers in open-wheel racing, died Sunday at Las Vegas Motor Speedway in a horrific multi-car crash only 11 laps into the IndyCar Series season finale. Officials decided to call the race, but the drivers planned a five-lap tribute to Wheldon. IndyCar Series CEORandy Bernard made the officials announcmeent of Wheldon's death without further comment. "IndyCar is very sad to announce that Dan Wheldon has passed away from unsurvivable injuries," Bernard said. "Our thoughts and prayers are with his family today. IndyCar, its drivers and owners, have decided to end the race. In honor of Dan Wheldon, the drivers have decided to do a five-lap salute to in his honor." Edited October 17, 2011 by gisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Of Spades Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 ^Was almost there today, glad I wasn't there to see what happened...such a horrific accident. I know that's a part of racing but still, just absolutely terrible. Thoughts go out to his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 That crash was something else. They really need to slow down those cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinch1313 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 ^That crash was one of the scariest things I've ever seen. They really do need to slow them down. There's no time to react to anything at 220 mph. My thoughts go out to his family. So very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The speed wasn't so much the factor. If you even slowed em down to 200 instead of 220, it was the way he hit. Once you get airborne in an open wheel car the head is now exposed in such a bad place. I have seen almost all of the deaths in open wheel racing of any significance and they all share an eerily similar thing - the car gets airborne and impacts a wall from the top. These cars can handle, distribute and dissipate 230+ mph hits IF they hit with the cars exterior, not the top of the car. The cars just aren't meant to get airborne but that's also one of the dangers in open wheel. Slowing them down isn't the answer. Nothing is really the answer. The cars are designed to break apart at impact and when they impact the sides, front or back, they do their thing and 99/100 times the driver walks away. In that 1 instance where they don't impact the wall like they should, you get this result. I've been around and into open wheel racing for 20+ years. The worst incidents weren't the worst because of their speeds but the uniqueness of the impact. Earnhardt, Greg Moore (VERY similar to Wheldon), Jeff Krosnoff (Cart wheeled against the catch fence - exposed his head more). I've witnessed quite a few in my years of watching, they've almost all been crashes unlike any others. Speed was always "there" but wasn't IMO the reason. Truly a tragedy and racing lost a great, great driver and persona. RIP Dan Wheldon. He did what he loved till the very end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 ^ So what your saying is that if they had been going 100mph the accident would have been just as bad Because the speed wasn't much of a factor? I'm talking about the number of cars involved and the damage done. The death was tragic and could have happened when the cars were only going 180mph. Granted, speed isn't the only issue here but it is a major reason when 15 out of the 34 cars were involved. Other issues being to many cars on a short track and a track that can handle the extreme speeds of the cars. Dial down the speed of the cars a little to give the drivers a split second more time to react. Flatten out the turns so the drivers can't go balls out all the time and make the number of cars dependant on the size of the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasbron Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Dan Wheldon has been my absolute favorite driver since 2005 (When I first got into the sport) I met him a couple of times and his kids were even going to go to my school. I watched the tragedy unfold. He could have been the nicest guy to ever walk the face of this earth. Who to blame this on really doesn't matter so long as the sport becomes safer because of this and more importantly, his legacy lives on![/i] love you ol' chap! <3 <3 <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 ^ So what your saying is that if they had been going 100mph the accident would have been just as bad Because the speed wasn't much of a factor? I'm talking about the number of cars involved and the damage done. The death was tragic and could have happened when the cars were only going 180mph. Granted, speed isn't the only issue here but it is a major reason when 15 out of the 34 cars were involved. Other issues being to many cars on a short track and a track that can handle the extreme speeds of the cars. Dial down the speed of the cars a little to give the drivers a split second more time to react. Flatten out the turns so the drivers can't go balls out all the time and make the number of cars dependant on the size of the track. Scott Speed is quoted as saying that the speed didnt matter, I think Ill go with him. If they were going 100mph and several of them were racing that close, you'd still see that many in the accident. What killed him wasn't the speed, it was the fact that he launched head first into the wall. I have seen 50mph crashes in open-wheel racing (Indy or F1) that resulted in a car getting airborne and coming to rest upside down. What if a guy does so and as he comes down, his head lands on the roll bar? Or wedged against a wall? Speed contributed but not like people are thinking. The real reason wasn't the speed, it was 34 cars on a track made fro 28 tops. Really, should have only had 24ish. Yes, the race that track flat out which is in and of itself dangerous because it makes the race like a NASCAR restrictor plate race but instead of it being on a 2.5mi D Oval its on a 1.5mi D Oval. It contributed but they aren't going to slow them from 220 to 100. They would at most reduce them to 200 and really, Dan still launches head first into the wall simply out of dumb luck. His car rotated perfectly and he most likely sustained unsurvivable head / neck trauma thanks to the way his car landed. BTW that track had banking ADDED to it for NASCAR because it was flatter. NASCAR didn't like how flat it was and complained the racing wasn't good. Wait, racing wasn't good or safer? NASCAR does everything it can to increase the "racing" but racing means cars closer together. This is why we have restrictor plate racing because if we didn't, sure the cars would impact the walls harder but you wouldn't have "The Big One" at Dega and Daytona. You'd have 2-3 cars wrecking, cars doing their jobs dissipating energy and the guys maybe shaken up. But the leagues want close racing. In NASCAR, its not as big a deal but in open wheel its highly dangerous. Everyone's making the speed to be the problem. It wasn't even close to the core problem. Its too many open wheel cars all running at the same speeds in a very, very close group. They were going 4 wide.... four wide!!!! That's dumb. Had that been on a 2.5mi oval like Fontana, Michigan, etc - Dan Wheldon still has a huge chance to drive as long as he drives up over someones wheel and launches himself. But yes, with a lot more track you wouldn't see 15 cars in that crash, I will give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedPirate Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 For me it was a combination of too many cars on a too small track going too fast. I also think the catch fence played a big part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Linsay Lohan's career. Kinda hard to make movies when you're in jail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 ^Except that she is not in jail and probably won't get sent to jail when her next hearing happens. LA justice FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Linsay Lohan's career. Kinda hard to make movies when you're in jail... I wish you were right but I'm sure some studio will still put her in movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteornotes Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 ^I'm sure Vivid would be interested... dt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 ^I'm sure Vivid would be interested... dt Yes, but is the public? She is not that good looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 ^If there is a demand for "BBW" and "Granny" genres in the adult film biz, I'm sure li'l ol' lady Lohan can find a niche... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Not sure about "BBW" since she is a s skinny as a stick now. However, if Vivid ever expands into the Meth Mouth fetish arena then she will be a shoe in. Hard to believe she is only 25..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedPirate Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Italian rider Marco Simoncelli has died after a horrific crash at the Malaysian MotoGP in Sepang. The race was stopped on lap two when Simoncelli's bike veered across the track at turn 11 into the path of Colin Edwards and Valentino Rossi. The 24-year-old had his helmet knocked off and was hit by both other riders. American rider Edwards also fell and dislocated his shoulder - while Simoncelli's fellow Italian Rossi was able to return to the pits. Simoncelli lay motionless on the track after the impact, while the race was immediately red-flagged. Medical director Michele Macchiagodena said Simoncelli suffered a "very serious trauma to the head, to the neck and the chest". At first officials were looking to restart the race before the extent of Simoncelli's injuries became clear. The race was cancelled amid confusion in the grandstand, with fans throwing bottles to show their initial displeasure. The death is the first fatality in MotoGP since Japan's Daijiro Katoh died from injuries sustained at the 2003 Japanese GP while, last year, Japan's Shoya Tomizawa died in a similar crash to Simoncelli in a Moto2 race in San Marino. Simoncelli's death comes a week after British IndyCar driver Dan Wheldon was killed in Las Vegas following a 15-car crash. AnalysisContinue reading the main story Marco was flamboyant on and off the track. When someone dies, everyone always says they loved life. But he had a very vibrant personality. He already had a huge fanbase around the world, partly down to aggressive riding - but also because he was just a cool guy. He didn't take himself too seriously and would have been a big star for next year. Matt Roberts BBC MotoGP presenter Read Steve Parrish's tribute BBC MotoGP presenter Matt Roberts said: "Marco lost his helmet in the crash. The officials said that, when the track medics got to him, he was in cardiac arrest. They tried to resuscitate him in the ambulance and the medical centre. "Both riders collided with him and the impact corresponded to him losing his helmet. The saddest thing is that Valentino [Rossi] and Marco were very close friends. "Colin [Edwards] has a dislocated shoulder and is in a lot of pain. He and Valentino are absolutely devastated." A MotoGP statement read: "On Sunday, 23 October, during the MotoGP race at the Sepang International Circuit, San Carlo Honda Gresini's Italian rider Marco Simoncelli suffered a serious accident wherein he sustained critical injuries. "The race was stopped immediately with the red flag and Simoncelli was transported by ambulance to the circuit medical centre where the medical staff worked to resuscitate him. "Despite their efforts, Marco sadly succumbed to his injuries at 4.56pm local time [0956 BST]. "Everybody involved in MotoGP extends its deepest condolences to Marco's family, friends and team at this tragic loss." And Sepang circuit chairman Mokhzani Mahathir added: "This is a one-of-a-kind freak incident where the helmet came off and I am sure FIM [international Federation of Motorcycling] and MotoGP will be looking into this." Honda rider Simoncelli entered MotoGP for the 2010 season and won his first pole position at the Catalunya race in June this year. Simoncelli's first podium finish came in the Czech Republic in August when he finished third but he bettered that with a second-place finish at the Australian GP. World champion Casey Stoner said: "As soon as I saw the footage it just makes you sick inside. Whenever the helmet comes off that's not a good sign." British MotoGP rider Cal Crutchlow tweeted: "RIP Marco Simoncelli! A great rider and all round nice guy. My thoughts are with all his family & friends. I will never forget today." Australian Formula 1 driver Mark Webber tweeted: "RIP Marco. A special talent that will be missed. Thinking of your loved ones and all the MotoGP paddock." Major Italian sports events on Sunday observed a minute's silence in memory of Simoncelli, who was a big fan of football club AC Milan. In their Serie A fixture against Lecce, Milan wore black armbands and came back from three goals behind to win 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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