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^ Jeez, I can't believe you tried that thing with the weight cables!

It definitely looks like at least the suicide was planned, as evidenced by the text messages. Why else would you send somebody a message regarding how to care for your dogs.


As to the Kurt Angle and steroid thing, it's kind of funny because he's from Pittsburgh. When he won in the Olympics, he was like a local hero- that's all you heard around here was Kurt Angle this and Kurt Angle that. Then he started getting weird- either from steroids, other drugs, or just his head got too big, who knows- and now he's like an embarassment.


It seems like for some reasons when athletes get in trouble, everybody wants to blame steroids (and or other drugs). This may be a cause in some things, but I don't think we can speculate that when an athlete does something crazy it's because of steroids (not that anybody has in this case, just in general).

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yeah, im terminally stupid... but i had a few people there, no weight on it ... ok well 5 lbs, and had a bench to squat/stand on. No one else should try this... ever... I can not stress that enough, ive been trained for years and i know a thing or two about stunts and staging, ive been hung from a noose for a film before, i know the precautions to take..... dear gods i am just stressing this cause heaven forbid someone get the idea to try it too... i think the average TPR reader is smarter than that, but, you never know.

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Hi guys at this sad time i would like to say something i herd that Chris wife was tied up is this true.

It was on the wwe pages and the drugs thing come on now he was clean so what drove him to kill his wife and child

R.I.P Chris

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Rob Graves said: "truth is... nothing like this can be caused by steroids."


I don't know where I could've ever got the idea that steroids may have been involved...I did read in at least on article that they did find steroids in the house. As far as the article saying they think it's "...wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts", I don't feel that way. With the WWE/WWF's past troubles with steroid abuse in it's athletes I think it's totally justified to ask questions, and speculate.


As far as Benoit himself, we now know that it was all very much premeditated, (and as a fan of his for 20+ years that really saddens me). All I was ever saying was that if he DID have steroids in his system...it sure couldn't help matters! I never said steroids were the cause for all of this tragedy! I apologize if I was misunderstood.



Rob Graves said: "and the use of steroids in wrestling PALES in comparison to other sports..."


Considering that that may be true, the only reason would be because there are fewer wrestlers out there to use them, in comparison to all the major league sports, (MLB, NBA, NHL and NFL). And where would I ever get the idea that steroids would've been used in wrestling?

Maybe when Vince McMahon and the WWF, (at the time) were drug into federal court and had to be investigated by the government on steroid charges. A fate that still follows them today, as they are still regularly investigated. Some of you may remember because Hulk Hogan testified against McMahon in the trial.



Rob Graves said: You didn't hear of people blaming steroids when OJ killed his wife?


Yeah, probably because nobody really had any reason to believe OJ would've used steroids. In wrestling, it's a curse that follows the entire sports entertainment genre. Even today, with some of the hulking monsters out there in the business...it's a much deserved reputation.



Rob Graves said: "never A$$-U/ME"


Why single me out? Have you read this thread? I'm not the only person speculating/A$$uming.


Lastly, when I was "speculating" none of the details we know now had come to light...remember that, please.

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i wasnt singling you out, it was to all, including the media... jumping to conclusions is bad.


Most people out there are very uneducated when it comes to anabolic steroids, they only know the things they have heard from the media... most of which is based ONLY on anecdotal evidence. Just like how not all steroids are the same as far as side effects etc. Swallowed/Chewed Dianbol is terrible on the liver cause its Methylated, and it can increase blood pressue which over time can cause heart enlargment. Injcected Nadrolone works differently and with few side effect because it never touches the liver, and does not have the chance to aromatise into estrogen, it also has very little effect on blood pressure. Human Growth Hormone has no known side effects minus the fact that it can make some types of cancers worse if they already exist, but does not cause them... it also has the side effects that it does not need to be cycled on or off because it doesn't effect your bodies natural production of testosterone or GH as your body pretty much stops producing GH at 25, which is part of what begins the aging process... GH can slow the aging process and could lead to a 100% increase in life expectancy once it has been refined and its effects maximized. Not all steroids are bad, in fact, most of the newest versions like GH are healthier than not taking them if taken properly and under a doctors supervision.


Besides... Steroids are SOOOO 20th century...


FIFA and the olympics have realized that steroids have passed... bring on the Gene Doping.


wikipedia article on gene doping


and from the wikipedia article on anabolic steroids

One of the most common misconceptions regarding the side effects of anabolic steroids is known as ‘roid rage’. There is no consensus in the medical literature if such a condition exists. Testosterone is known to be associated with aggression and hypomania however the link between other steroids and aggression remains unclear.[70] Some studies have shown a slight correlation between manic symptoms and anabolic steroid use,[71] however later studies have brought these into question.[62] Currently only 3 blinded studies have demonstrated a link between and aggression and steroid use, with estimates of over 1 million past or current steroid users in the United states, an extremely small percentage of those using steroids appear to have experienced mental disturbance severe enough to result in clinical treatments or medical case reports.[72] The majority of recent studies done on angry behavior and anabolic steroid use show little or no psychological effect, implying that either "roid rage" does not exist or that anabolic steroids' effects on aggression are often too small to be measured. Some studies however have shown a slight correlation of about 4% between marked hypomania and anabolic steroid use[73] where 50 individuals were studied, only about 4%(2) showed signs of marked hypomania. It has previously been theorized that some studies showing a correlation between angry behavior and steroid use are confounded by the fact that a high percentage of steroid users demonstrate cluster B personality disorders prior to administering steroids.[74] Many case studies have concluded anabolic steroids have little or no real effect on increased aggressive behavior.[75][58][76][77] Harvard researcher Harrison Pope, M.D. stated “With regard to the ‘roid rage’ issue, my first reaction as a scientist, obviously, is that ‘roid rage’ is a meaningless term that simply arose in popular parlance”.[78]
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What a douche. I'm sorry, regardless of what the guy did as a wrestler...killing your wife and son and then yourself (most likely because the guilt set in and he didn't want to face the law/his fans/etc. for his actions) is not cool.

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What a douche. I'm sorry, regardless of what the guy did as a wrestler...killing your wife and son and then yourself (most likely because the guilt set in and he didn't want to face the law/his fans/etc. for his actions) is not cool.


not gonna argue with you there.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Taken From Sky News:


US wrestler Chris Benoit was reportedly injecting his seven-year-old son with human growth hormone.


The WWE star is thought to have killed his wife and child before taking his own life at their Georgia home.


US media reports have quoted Scott Ballard, a Fayette County District Attorney, as saying that Daniel Benoit had old needle marks on his arm.


In an interview with ESPN.com, Mr Ballard said he believed the boy had been given growth hormones because his parents considered him undersized


"The boy was very small, even dwarfed," he was quoted as saying.


Investigators have said they found anabolic steroids among prescription drugs at Benoit's suburban Atlanta house.


Three bodies were found at the residence, raising questions as to whether they played a role in the deaths.


The head of World Wrestling Entertainment, Vince McMahon, said Benoit had passed a random drug test in April.


He said: "That doesn't mean he wasn't taking prescription medication and perhaps even steroids when this happened. We don't know."


Authorities said it could take weeks to receive the results of toxicology reports.


They said Benoit's wife Nancy and son Daniel died of asphyxiation while he hung himself.


Earlier, WWE lawyer Jerry McDevitt said the wrestler and his wife had been struggling with how to care for Daniel, who was mentally disabled.

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In Death, i think everyone deserves respect. No matter how they got there It's too bad he couldn't get the help he needed.


Respect is earned, not given. Spineless cowards that murder innocent women and children for whatever reason deserve no respect IMO. I only wish he had survived so he could instead rot in jail for the rest of his miserable life for the choices he made.


To his poor innocent wife and kid who weren't given a choice, RIP.

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  • 4 months later...

From Yahoo:

CLEARWATER, Fla. - Evel Knievel, the hard-living motorcycle daredevil whose jumps over Greyhound buses, live sharks and Idaho's Snake River Canyon made him an international icon in the 1970s, died Friday. He was 69.


Knievel's death was confirmed by his granddaughter, Krysten Knievel. He had been in failing health for years, suffering from diabetes and pulmonary fibrosis, an incurable condition that scarred his lungs.


Knievel had undergone a liver transplant in 1999 after nearly dying of hepatitis C, likely contracted through a blood transfusion after one of his bone-shattering spills.


Immortalized in the Washington's Smithsonian Institution as "America's Legendary Daredevil," Knievel was best known for a failed 1974 attempt to jump Snake River Canyon on a rocket-powered cycle and a spectacular crash at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas. He suffered nearly 40 broken bones before he retired in 1980.


Although he dropped off the pop culture radar in the '80s, Knievel always had fans and enjoyed a resurgence in popularity in recent years. In later years he still made a good living selling his autographs and endorsing products. Thousands came to Butte, Mont., every year as his legend was celebrated during the "Evel Knievel Days" festival.


"They started out watching me bust my ass, and I became part of their lives," Knievel said. "People wanted to associate with a winner, not a loser. They wanted to associate with someone who kept trying to be a winner."


His death came just two days after it was announced that he and rapper Kanye West had settled a federal lawsuit over the use of Knievel's trademarked image in a popular West music video.


My deepest sympathy towards his family.



Hopefully (most likely) SFStL will honor him with the opening of Evel Knievel.

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