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As a former TTD ride op, I’ve seen a handful of dislocated shoulders from people who had their hands up on the launch, so I understand. Granted, that’s only a handful out of tens of thousands of times I’ve witnessed it, but this is the reason for the rule, I’m sure.

I believe it, my left shoulder was sore for several days after putting my hands up on TTD. I wouldn't even dare think of doing the same on Maxx Force.

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Agreed. Ouch. That hurts just thinking about. Never EVER would I want to put my hands up for a launch that forceful (really I don't see the point in putting up your hands for any launch)

 

As side note. To those who have ridden it, how does the launch feel compared to the hydraulic launchers?

 

Through some simple arithmetic, I believe the accelerations roughly would be...

 

TTD: 120mph/4 s = + 30 mph each second

 

KK 128 / 3.5 s = + 36.5 mph each second

 

Xcelerator 82 / 2.3 s = + 35.7 mph each second

 

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Maxx Force 78 / 2 s = + 39 mph each second (Fastest accelerating North Am. coaster)

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The seatbelt is very forgiving. Similar to Whizzer. The restraint is deceiving. I saw many people click in several clicks on the restraint yet it still threw a code in the booth that it wasn't secure. Ride ops will help push it down but not force it. If you have another adult with you to really push down you should be fine.

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Agreed. Ouch. That hurts just thinking about. Never EVER would I want to put my hands up for a launch that forceful (really I don't see the point in putting up your hands for any launch)

 

As side note. To those who have ridden it, how the launch feel compared the hydraulic launchers?

 

Through some simple arithmetic, I believe the accelerations roughly would be...

 

TTD: 120mph/4 s = + 30 mph each second

 

KK 128 / 3.5 s = + 36.5 mph each second

 

Xcelerator 82 / 2.3 s = + 35.7 mph each second

 

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Maxx Force 78 / 2 s = + 39 mph each second (Fastest accelerating North Am. coaster)

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Agreed. Ouch. That hurts just thinking about. Never EVER would I want to put my hands up for a launch that forceful (really I don't see the point in putting up your hands for any launch)

 

As side note. To those who have ridden it, how the launch feel compared the hydraulic launchers?

 

Through some simple arithmetic, I believe the accelerations roughly would be...

 

TTD: 120mph/4 s = + 30 mph each second

 

KK 128 / 3.5 s = + 36.5 mph each second

 

Xcelerator 82 / 2.3 s = + 35.7 mph each second

 

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Maxx Force 78 / 2 s = + 39 mph each second (Fastest accelerating North Am. coaster)

 

 

The launches feel much different. Maxx Force feels instant with a lot of track to go before you go up. TTD feels like it accelerates forever. There is quite a bit of track with no acceleration on MF before you go up....faster acceleration for sure, but I prefer the TTD launch because it goes on forever in comparison.

 

Visually TTD looks better as well, there is a lot of space between the launch and where you start to go up, obviously the height too.

 

That being said MF is a fantastic ride that has a very good shorter layout, and silky smooth.

 

Launch goes to TTD, overall ride, I think MF may have it.

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Gonna be visiting the park for the first time in a couple weeks and I'm wondering what the best route is to take in terms of avoiding traffic if possible. Coming from the east it looks like my two options are to take 90 right through Chicago or to go around Chicago on 294. Or is there a 3rd option? Thanks.

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I can tell you that 90 through Chicago is NOT a good idea; I did it when I went out there in 2017 and it was the worst 6 hours of the entire drive. Googlemaps recommends the 294 route, but I'd suggest something a little out there:

 

1. Take 96 west across Michigan to Muskegon.

2. Take the Lake Express Ferry to Milwaukee

3. Take 94 south to the park.

 

It'll cost substantially more (the ferry isn't cheap), and take about 2 hours longer than the 294 route, but you get to enjoy a ferry ride (it's better to spend 2 hours walking around a boat with access to a bar then 2 hours sitting in stop-and-go traffic) and even stop in MiA for a few rides if you want.

 

I took the ferry going back east from Milwaukee and it was a very, very smart move on my part.

 

If you decide to go that route, I highly recommend buying the ferry ticket for a specific time in advance - you don't want to get there and find the boat is full since they run 6 hour departure intervals.

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Gonna be visiting the park for the first time in a couple weeks and I'm wondering what the best route is to take in terms of avoiding traffic if possible. Coming from the east it looks like my two options are to take 90 right through Chicago or to go around Chicago on 294. Or is there a 3rd option? Thanks.

 

Take 294. I have lived here my whole life, and I only take 90 when I am going to the city. 90 costs more in tolls, and you can hit some heavy traffic near the city. Cannot guarantee you will not hit some traffic on 294 too with construction season afoot, but it is just easier.

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Take 294. There may be a slowdown in the area around O'Hare airport, but for the most part it is generally painless. Unless you are going on the weekend it is usually pretty fast. Another bonus is that there are 4 rest stop oasis areas between the IL state line and Great America and on I-90/94 there are none until it merges back with 294 in northern Illinois.

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I second the ferry idea. Another option is to take a hot air balloon. Both are convenient, so it's your choice.

 

Or, you can just take 294 and not over complicate it. I 'think' that's the way any GPS takes us and we've never had any issues with it. Google maps will help you avoid traffic. You'll be fine.

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^90 is the shorter route, and there are times the GPS will try to take you that way, but that will depend on time of day and current traffic conditions. The Skyway Toll is $5 on 90, which is a big reason we avoid that route. If you want a nice up close view of Chicago, you can take it, but we just prefer going around on 294. Just try both routes as you near Chicago in your GPS and if it much faster to go 90, then that’s fine. Construction on some parts of 294 does slow it down at times.

 

Southbound on 90 back into the city almost always results in heavy traffic beginning several miles before downtown, so only take 90 northbound to the park if you do take it.

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Thanks. I figured 294 was the better option but believe it or not google, and my iphone said to take 90.

 

If you time your trip so you're passing through the City early enough, you will fly through either route and there won't be any traffic although I do think they are still doing nightly lane closures in the Jane Byrne Interchange (on I-90) so that could still be slow.

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Gonna be visiting the park for the first time in a couple weeks and I'm wondering what the best route is to take in terms of avoiding traffic if possible. Coming from the east it looks like my two options are to take 90 right through Chicago or to go around Chicago on 294. Or is there a 3rd option? Thanks.

Not sure if your itinerary supports it, but have you considered rail? It might be worth at least looking at as an option, even though chances are it probably won’t be fast.

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The Skyway Toll is $5 on 90, which is a big reason we avoid that route. If you want a nice up close view of Chicago, you can take it, but we just prefer going around on 294.

 

I'd pay $10 for the convenience of mindlessly following the blue line on my prehistoric iphone, with the priority of my focus being on whatever shitty pop culture music I'm listening to. Not only that, but yes. If you want to see a shooting you're better off taking the route closest to Chicago, but if you're close enough to pick up Chicago radio stations there's still a chance you'll have a front row seat. Talk about a thrill ride...

 

 

 

Seriously though, bro. Don't sweat it. Leave with time to spare and follow the blue line on your GPS. My only advice is to bring cash and plenty of loose change for tolls. They're worth it for the most direct route. A few bucks for more convenience? Sold.

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From your trip report photos it's pretty amazing that it's July 9 and they still don't have queue rails in the ground, and haven't begun painting them. I'm really not shocked that most of the park's employees don't seem to care to do their jobs well/quickly when this is the sort of stuff that management allows. I know we had bad weather this year but that definitely didn't affect the ability to have a basic, undecorated queue in place halfway through the season.

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From your trip report photos it's pretty amazing that it's July 9 and they still don't have queue rails in the ground, and haven't begun painting them. I'm really not shocked that most of the park's employees don't seem to care to do their jobs well/quickly when this is the sort of stuff that management allows. I know we had bad weather this year but that definitely didn't affect the ability to have a basic, undecorated queue in place halfway through the season.

 

Those pictures were from July 5th. To be fair,I'm not sure how necessary the unfinished line is needed. With the exception of first thing in the morning, the line was just outside of the entrance. I kinda thought it was odd that they didn't have any temporary line in place(like they did when goliath opened), but in all honesty it really wasn't needed.

As far as the employees go, they all seemed friendly and generally in a decent mood. I never ran into a pissy or rude employee the whole time. As a matter of fact, I had one ask me how my day was going and started a conversation with me.

I've ran into more rude employees at cedarpoint this year.

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So, as far as Maxx Force is concerned, here is my report from riding it today. I was not there when the park opened, but I got in line as soon as I entered the park. The quoted wait time was 90 min and pretty accurate as I got on it in 84 min.

 

That being said, I am not sure what the theoretical throughput of the ride is stated as delivering, but it was never quicker than close to 3 min between launches. At that rate, with full trains, that’s about 320 guests/hour. For today anyway.

 

Half of the queue line switchbacks are not completed yet but are on the way. Today was about 84 with faint breezes occasionally, but there is no shade now until the last 15 feet before boarding. Stay hydrated, bring water or Powerade/Gatorade, it was at least ten degrees hotter in line. A young early 20-ish woman fainted in line and had to be wheeled out by EMT’s and later left the park on a stretcher with an ambulance crew.

 

From some concrete footers near the existing lampposts it appears that when the queue line is completed that there will be some sort of canopy over it,but not right now.

 

As far as the ride itself:

 

Trains look awesome and the restraints are snug and comfy.

 

The launch is Pure Bliss and Adrenaline!!!

 

I have been on TTD at Cedar Point, which is faster, but a much longer launch, but to go almost instantaneously from standing still to 80 MPH, in maybe a third of that time is what is worth the price of admission here. WOW! And that sonic boom just after you hit top speed...amazing. The launch up til just past the Zero-g roll elements are super intense. The final inversions are fun as well but are already backing off on the overall speed.

 

I am happy overall with the ride, but it is terribly short. I was talking to some other people at the park who said it did not open until well after Noon, and as much as I was willing to wait another 90 min for it, it stopped operations from just before 6, until just after 8 p.m. When I went by the queue at 8:55, the line was Far Longer than when I rode it initially, I am guessing at least 1 hour 45 min. I unfortunately had to skip it and wait until next time I go to the park.

 

It seems to me that once all the bugs and opening jitters are worked out that this ride could launch every 90 seconds, meaning 600+ capacity per hour which is still pretty terrible. However, that launch is just enough to want to make you ride it over and over again.

 

As far as terrible goes....I will get right back in line next time I get there....so there’s that.

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It seems to me that once all the bugs and opening jitters are worked out that this ride could launch every 90 seconds.

 

 

You mean 'could' like if it had no riders and a crew from Disney, with no seat belts and air gates, right?

 

Not even the Halsey music blasted throughout the station and ride area could get SFGam teenage ride operators hustling for 90 second dispatches. Combine that with one out of every twenty American riders not fitting in the restraints and I'd say your 3 minute dispatches are exactly what you can expect.

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