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I’m so ready for these totally arbitrary and nonsensical covid rules to be over.  So a waterpark with no masks was fine all summer but they can’t run a coaster Or a Scrambler with a bunch of empt

This is life in Illinois. We're everything that's wrong with California, without the view.

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I'm going with the option on the top right. I feel like a third log flume would fill a major void in the lineup. Make it happen.

 

They are just going to retheme Loggers Run into DC super logs and give all the logs capes and snickers adverts

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I don't know how I feel about a Raptor at GAm. Being compact helps matters but the truth is the capacity of the current models with single-wide trains seems like it'd be way too low for a park that gets the attendance numbers that GAm does. If RMC could make a rail and train that slotted in between T-Rex and Raptor that would be a good option.

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TBH I'd take the Boat Tour or the Motion Simulator. One is something totally like they don't have, the other is something they can run in the winter when it invariably snows but they're open in mid December.

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In all seriousness (though a third flume would be awesome albeit an incredibly stupid investment) my first thought was also that they should stockpile as many indoor rides as possible over the next few years.

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I don't know how I feel about a Raptor at GAm. Being compact helps matters but the truth is the capacity of the current models with single-wide trains seems like it'd be way too low for a park that gets the attendance numbers that GAm does.

What about Joker?

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In all seriousness (though a third flume would be awesome albeit an incredibly stupid investment) my first thought was also that they should stockpile as many indoor rides as possible over the next few years.

First thing I thought of when I saw Holiday Park's new area was that SFGAm should have something like this.

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I don't know how I feel about a Raptor at GAm. Being compact helps matters but the truth is the capacity of the current models with single-wide trains seems like it'd be way too low for a park that gets the attendance numbers that GAm does.

What about Joker?

That line can get nasty. The park shouldn't make that mistake again.

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How was it a mistake? The last couple times I've gone we waited ten minutes max, with the longest line of the day appearing to be around 20-30 minutes. The queue is also in plain view, so if someone wants to jump into an hour wait they do so willingly. I see no reason for SFGam to look at Joker as a mistake. A S&S Free Spin had already been installed at SFGAdv, which is a very large park. Free Spins are a ton of fun and everyone always seems to be laughing and smiling when they walk away from them.

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In all seriousness (though a third flume would be awesome albeit an incredibly stupid investment) my first thought was also that they should stockpile as many indoor rides as possible over the next few years.

 

That park has Cedar Point levels of attendance. Should Cedar Point get a coaster that can only do like 700 PPH in a theoretical sense? Nah. That's stupid. Luckily their management realized that and thus everything they've built coaster wise of late has been to increase the overall capacity of the park by installing or retrofitting rides into people eaters.

 

Whizzer's line is painful enough. Why put in something lower capacity than that with a ride model intended for small/mid size parks looking for a signature thriller? It doesn't even fit a need, whereas indoor or signature family attractions would.

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My Six Flags Great America survey is about rides - more specifically about the RMC Wonder Woman. I'm on my 5th question about how I think that type of ride would fit in the park.

 

Mine had a video of a Dive coaster. Which I’d like to see vs a raptor

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My Six Flags Great America survey is about rides - more specifically about the RMC Wonder Woman. I'm on my 5th question about how I think that type of ride would fit in the park.

 

Mine had a video of a Dive coaster. Which I’d like to see vs a raptor

A Dive probably runs anywhere from 2 to 3 times the price of a Raptor. This isn't an either/or thing.

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Yeah B&M is a class or 2 above RCM. Just when I took a survey for SFGAm it had a video of a dive coaster and one of the questions mentioned a dive coaster. A raptor was not listed as an option. Maybe we will get a Vekoma Dive coaster.

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So if anyone else comments that "It's too cold for a Holiday event at **insert park here** and refuses to subscribe to the idea that people are used to the seasonal averages wherever they live and don't care then direct them to this video that someone shot of Great America last night when the temperatures were hovering around the high teens / low 20's. The place is packed given the conditions.

 

Note: Raging Bull running in those conditions at the 19 second mark because Six Flags is awesome.

 

Video from some Random Facebook post. (Caution - Vertical Video)

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Yes Six Flags is really good when it comes to cold weather ride ops. Kings Island has three coasters open. Only two are full size. And one of those is indoors. Herschend does a little bit better job down in Silver Dollar City and Dollywood, but they still appear to follow the manufacturer's recommended minimum operating temperatures. Only Six Flags appears to actually completely ignore that and test rides at various temperatures - only they appear to actually strive to figure out what the true minimum temperature is for any given layout. Whatever complaints I may have about individual Parks, or individual park administration staff members, or the corporation itself, cold weather operations isn't a weak spot.

 

I suppose the closest comparison is Disney. They do appear to attempt to operate the outdoor coasters in Paris as long as they possibly can.

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I haven't had a chance to go since I had trips to Dollywood and SFOG but knowing one of my favorite rides at my homepark is running at around 20 degrees is awesome. Time to add Batman and Raging Bull to the under 40 degree club with Lightning Rod and others.

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Yes Six Flags is really good when it comes to cold weather ride ops. Kings Island has three coasters open. Only two are full size. And one of those is indoors. Herschend does a little bit better job down in Silver Dollar City and Dollywood, but they still appear to follow the manufacturer's recommended minimum operating temperatures. Only Six Flags appears to actually completely ignore that and test rides at various temperatures - only they appear to actually strive to figure out what the true minimum temperature is for any given layout. Whatever complaints I may have about individual Parks, or individual park administration staff members, or the corporation itself, cold weather operations isn't a weak spot.

Cedar Fair seems to be choosing not to open up their rides in order to dedicate more resources to the lights and Christmas atmosphere. This appears extremely successful. There's no reason to please a few coaster enthusiasts when Cedar Fair parks are attracting families in droves. I also suspect that less visitors to Cedar Fair Winterfest events are season pass holders.

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HITP Trip Report

 

Today I made my third HITP trip and without a doubt this was the best. I’ll even say this was probably the best visit to the park all season. Due to snowy weather the park was very empty so lines were nonexistent yet the park didn’t close early. Even with the snow I had no trouble ride every ride I wanted to at least twice because if this. I really enjoyed riding the coaster in the snow also. I was even lucky enough to get a solo ride on V2 and BTR(including the last train of the day). I thought about making another visit but after today I don’t think I’ll be going back until next year. I would rather end the season on a very high note.

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Oh yeah they ran the coasters in the snow alright. The only thing that wold of made it better is if Goliath was open.

The inversion near stall elements on Goliath probably make cold operations difficult. I agree I'd love to see if it could run.

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Just something I noticed. I was looking at the original Six Flags Dubai when I noticed a coaster that looked familiar in one of the concept arts.

 

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(I can't find a better picture of the side)

 

I wonder if Maxx Force was planned for a while and Six Flags decided to move it to this park?

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