Vonni Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 ^ I was under the impression that Goliath is the worlds tallest, steepest, fastest wooden coaster. I'm pretty sure that is how it has been marketed since its announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelder8 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 ^ I was under the impression that Goliath is the worlds tallest, steepest, fastest wooden coaster. I'm pretty sure that is how it has been marketed since its announcement. It has been marketed like that since it's announcement but that wasn't even true when it opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindexCyanide13 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 When it opened, it was the tallest and steepest. What do you consider to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 You can't flat out lie to them like that. Says who? All the people boycotting Six Flags Great America over the wording of the marketing for their new coaster? And, to answer your question, it is correct, actually. Tallest drop, fastest wooden coaster, steepest wooden coaster. At this point, it is still true. And they probably won't change it, just like Kingda Ka is still "the tallest and fastest coaster in the world" and El Toro has been the "Worlds best wooden coaster." Why? Because nobody cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1ch0las Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have heard that the rides with the longest lines are Goliath, Superman, and X-Flight. Is this true? Substitute X-Flight with Raging Bull and those are typically your top three. Raging Bull doesn't tend to get above 45 minutes, so yes X-Flight and those two are the longest. American Eagle has the shortest line, and never really gets above 20 minutes 6 or 7 years ago I'd agree with you on the Raging Bull thing. Substitute poor operations, flash pass increases, and a whole lotta teenagers in that EAP line though and suddenly one full queue house means a 90 minute wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelder8 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Is it worth the trip to go to sfgam from Minnesota? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Is it worth the trip to go to sfgam from Minnesota? Yes. Also if you want, You can stop at Mt. Olympus and get their $15 Summer Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterguy21 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Does it bother anyone else that on the back of the park map it says "world's tallest, steepest, fastest?" Come on six flags! Get your sht together! The GP is stupid, but You can't flat out lie to them like that. Not cool. The GP believes the truth in this case! It doesn't bother me it says it because, as of last check, Goliath does happen to have the Guinness Book of World Records for Tallest (drop), Steepest, Fastest wooden coaster. The latter of which it will lose when Lightning Rod opens. So maybe you should check the facts! Is it worth the trip to go to sfgam from Minnesota? Yes it is. But did you really criticize what a park says (while its the truth) without ever having been there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 El Toro has been the "Worlds best wooden coaster." While I don't care about the misleading language they use anyway, this one isn't technically wrong because it's completely arbitrary and opinion based. And to be fair a lot of seasoned riders probably do rank this as their #1 wood coaster (though it's debatable by it's very nature). The GP believes the truth in this case! It doesn't bother me it says it because, as of last check, Goliath does happen to have the Guinness Book of World Records for Tallest (drop), Steepest, Fastest wooden coaster. The latter of which it will lose when Lightning Rod opens. So maybe you should check the facts! This is just every coaster enthusiast stereotype ever all rolled into one post. Posts like this are why I can't stand the vast majority of coaster enthusiasts. Who cares? Calm down. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ^ Yeah that's exactly my point. Not everything on park maps, park website, the Internet... Well, not much of anything "has" to be true. And usually nobody really cares except some coaster enthusiasts and it almost never matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterguy21 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The GP believes the truth in this case! It doesn't bother me it says it because, as of last check, Goliath does happen to have the Guinness Book of World Records for Tallest (drop), Steepest, Fastest wooden coaster. The latter of which it will lose when Lightning Rod opens. So maybe you should check the facts! This is just every coaster enthusiast stereotype ever all rolled into one post. Posts like this are why I can't stand the vast majority of coaster enthusiasts. Who cares? Calm down. lol I don't care that it has those records. I like it because it is a good ride in my opinion! I was just pointing out the fact that it does, indeed, hold those records because of the manner of his post blasting the park for advertising it that way. Even if it weren't true, they could advertise it any way they want. And I am not a ride or die enthusiast, there are a lot more important things to me honestly. He was blasting a park that wasn't false advertising it anyway. Excuse me for saying they weren't false advertising. But if that comes across as stereotypical, then so be it! Do not really care at all. And you also missed a few stereotypes, some of which appear in your own posts. So pot meet kettle. But it's whatever, obviously it is bound to happen on this site. We all can be stereotypical every now and then I guess. ^ Yeah that's exactly my point. Not everything on park maps, park website, the Internet... Well, not much of anything "has" to be true. And usually nobody really cares except some coaster enthusiasts and it almost never matters. You'd be surprised. That's why marketing exists. And it goes a long way! Even false advertising. Its a human stigma but people believe what they want to believe anyway. So yeah I guess it doesn't really matter in the end. I prefer coasters of more quality than records, but records do have a certain draw to them to more people than just enthusiasts. We studied a whole section about that in one of my marketing classes and how amusement parks specifically put that spin on it to boost revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ^I think you misread my post. I meant that, excluding a select few, most people don't know/care if a marketing claim (especially about coasters) is false. Hence why marketing is effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterguy21 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ^Ok, now I will admit that I am stupid. Sorry about that. I will say, working in marketing, that it is definitely a love/hate relationship I have with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF15 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Construction on the building for Battle for Metropolis has begun. From the park's Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livai Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 what I do not like, and that has nothing to do with the theme of the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Nice to see construction moving along. I think this is a great addition to the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceBoarder Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 what I do not like, and that has nothing to do with the theme of the area Except they are moving the entrance to SW Territory towards the restrooms & concession stand down by Ricochet and River Rocker... The area will be its own thing... This area has never had a "Southwest" feel to it anyways, even with SWA there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Interestingly, that looks quite a bit smaller than the buildings at the SFStL and SFOT properties. Perhaps its just the angle of the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombi3elephant9 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 what I do not like, and that has nothing to do with the theme of the area Except they are moving the entrance to SW Territory towards the restrooms & concession stand down by Ricochet and River Rocker... The area will be its own thing... This area has never had a "Southwest" feel to it anyways, even with SWA there... Agreed. Southwest Territory always felt more authentic In between Viper and River Rocker. The Amphitheater area always felt bland and too open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I still find it interesting that this is the amphitheater that was chosen to remove. I've only been to SFGAm once, and its been many, many years, but from what I understand from posts on here the Wilderness Theater is hardly ever used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottm13 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I still find it interesting that this is the amphitheater that was chosen to remove. I've only been to SFGAm once, and its been many, many years, but from what I understand from posts on here the Wilderness Theater is hardly ever used. The amphitheater is used even less and takes up much more space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Any new construction completed on the new building? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band-Aid Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 This new Onion article mentions Six Flags Great America http://www.theonion.com/article/roller-coaster-designers-artistic-vision-sullied-f-52129 Roller Coaster Designer’s Artistic Vision Sullied By Fantastic Four Tie-In GURNEE, IL—Insisting that every ounce of integrity had been removed from his creation, roller coaster designer Jonathan Leeman told reporters Friday that Six Flags Great America’s egregious incorporation of the Fantastic Four into his ride had completely sullied his artistic vision. “I didn’t spend a year crafting each corkscrew, hammerhead turn, and dive loop of this ride to have it tarnished with a blue-and-silver color scheme and cars painted to vaguely resemble Mister Fantastic and Doctor Doom,” said Leeman, shaking his head and remarking that, had he known it was going to have a 20-foot-tall number 4 mounted to the side of it, he never would have added a 17-story lift hill. “This ride was supposed to be purely about the thrills, the choreographed push and pull of G-forces, but look at it now: a garish mishmash of steel, comic book art, and speakers that endlessly blare The Thing’s awful roar. It’s a hideous perversion of what it once stood for.” At press time, Leeman was reportedly relieved to learn that his newest idea for an inverted coaster would, in contrast, be subtly complemented and enhanced by several tasteful likenesses of Yosemite Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hahaha that was really funny. Although I bet this happens in real life too, when designers find their creation having an ugly color scheme or theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF15 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Battle for Metropolis building update. From the park's Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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