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This was my first time in the park since media day, and Goliath has surprisingly broken in very nicely! The 2 inversions don't let you hang out of them anymore (which is great for me; I like a zero-g inversion here and there, but the "hang-time" stuff that people seem to rave about isn't for me.)

Me too. I'm not a really big fan of hangtime. I'm okay with heartline rolls but I feel that's pretty much the only inversion that "should" have some.

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Had a great day at the park today, rode Goliath for the first time. Around 8 the park had a power outage to half of the park, causing Superman,Batman,V2, and I think X-flight to shut down. Since this was late in day I got on all the rides I wanted still. The park even gave out free tickets to return because of the power outage.

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I went on a trip to Chicago a few weeks ago and finally got to ride Goliath. The ride is a great addition to the park but as an airtime fan I was disappointed. There was only one major pop of airtime and it was too short overall. The other RMC that I've ridden (NTAG) is a much better ride.

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I was there the sunday before the 4th along with the 4th and last night. Got there around 6:15. Lines galore for everything around 6:45. Worse than 4th of July. Probably 20 some buses out there. Everything except Demon, Bull, and Whizzer went down by 8:30. After we left X-Flight it took about 15 min to see a train go on Goliath and V2. Everything else but Demon was dead. Those were the last trains that ran and then walking out, all that we saw running was Whizzer. Both Whizzer and Demon had lines just overflowing at this time.

 

Eagle Blue got stuck on top of the lift hill again like it did one of the previous two times I visited. X Flight should be renamed Flash Pass. It's obscene how many flash passers go by whenever I ride it. Hundreds. Would not be surprised if it doubled the wait time. Batman is like that too. I really don't recall there being tons of flash passers a couple years ago. Seems that the more they raise the price, the more people buy it. Why not raise the price, limit it, and then throw some ads all over? The consensus seems to be that the park's operations get worse as time goes on, and I'd gladly take a bunch of ads everywhere if it meant a better experience. The stridex ads on the Demon looked kinda cool I thought. Gave the ride some color. The upsurge in flash passers could be due to Goliath. Maybe not as the most common thing I see are groups of 4-6 who don't look like they'd be shelling hundreds of dollars for platinum passes.

 

Flash Pass is a worthy idea that should be an option, but when you sell ridiculous amounts of them coupled with the oft-mentioned operational issues, visiting the park can be a big waste of time. It's almost better just to arrive at 7 or 8 PM on days when it's crowded and full of flash passers. Batman is another flash pass magnet. Bull ran well that last sunday I went. 3 trains. Line was out to the test seat but they didn't fill the queue so wait time wasn't too long. Maybe a half hour.

 

The Train is back up and running. Watching the fireworks with X Flight/Flash Pass in the background is stunning. I bet it's even cooler if you're on the ride. Angelo's is running well now. Lines move at a reasonable pace and no cold food. Time will tell if Goliath has staying power. Once upon a time Shockwave and Iron Wolf drew huge crowds. I never got to ride them but I've heard their ridership decreased due to reps of roughness? Wonder if the internet emerging had anything to do with that. Goliath may eventually get the rep of being half a ride. Pretzelman still draws though, so, who knows.

 

Eventually theme parks will be competing with virtual reality versions. Might be a couple decades away. Can they put in another new coaster without removing anything? Doesn't look that way. I'd like to see more non-thrill rides and more of an effort to feel like a theme park. It often feels like Six Flags goes for cheapest cost options and tries to attract lowest common denominator people. I was reading some forum post about how County Fair doesn't feel like a county fair anymore. It's true that a big coaster will draw more people than the raceway or Splash water falls, but then it's more like a coaster park than a theme park. You're drawing people who want thrills above all else. Instead of selling the overall experience the way I see it marketed in the Marriott commercials, it's being sold based on thrill seeking almost exclusively.

 

I figured out some approaches to limit the car crash feeling on every drop and inversion on Demon. Seems that adjusting your neck position throughout the loops seems to stop it from being slightly whiplashed as happens when you try to keep it steady. It doesn't reduce all of that whiplashy feeling, but gets rid of most of it. On the first drop you kinda need to lift the knees up a bit like if you were out of your seat in a car crash because it does slam with pretty good impact when you go down that hill. I'm tall enough not to have any real problems with the corkscrews.

 

Last time I went on Batman it was feeling awesome again. Maybe because I sat on the right side. I do get floater type airtime on the loops(if only we could get 2-4 more of these here). If someone doesn't fit, having one person hold and push the harness while another person pushes and puts the buckle in seems to give a couple extra inches of room to fit someone in who would have a lot of trouble if they tried to get in with just one person helping.

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I went on a trip to Chicago a few weeks ago and finally got to ride Goliath. The ride is a great addition to the park but as an airtime fan I was disappointed. There was only one major pop of airtime and it was too short overall. The other RMC that I've ridden (NTAG) is a much better ride.

 

I rode it a while ago and was disappointed in the airtime. I think this was a rush job and they went a little too fancy/overboard as well.

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^I thought Goliath was a great ride and it met my expectations, I expected it to be short so I wasn't let down by that. The airtime was great! This was my first RMC, so I can't compare it to others, but I thought it was perfect. The design perfectly fits in the compact area it's in

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I must have missed this discussion already, but how is El Toro the tallest wooden coaster on earth if it isn't even the tallest wood coaster in the chain? Or if Colossos' claimed height is 30+ feet taller?

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I get that, but that doesn't mean that Steel Phantom or Apollo's Chariot are taller than Raging Bull. It just isn't true. It has the longest drop, definitely...I guess its just a matter of semantics though.

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^The park has clearly stated "tallest drop" in a lot of their literature, so while people keep trying to complain it is not the tallest wooden coaster, the park is well aware of that. I would rather have the tallest drop than the tallest structure any day. When they use the phrase "tallest, steepest, fastest," that's because it's purely a marketing phrase and is a nice, grammatically parallel structure. There is no way to add "drop" to that phrase and not make it sound awkward. Since it does have the tallest drop, why wouldn't they market that?

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Flash Plass is must have at this park... No way in hell I'd wait for hours in a line for a roller coaster.. Last year my wife and I got the Flash Pass platinum and we took turns using it while the other stayed with our kids.. Best $100 we spent all year.

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^Agreed. Every major ride had at least a 45 minute wait when I went a couple of weeks ago, and it was a weekday. Even the lines for Demon, Whizzer, and American Eagle were that long, which surprised me.

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I've been wondering this, but why has the trains on Goliath had so many more problems than the trains on Medusa: Steel coaster in Mexico? The trains look exactly the same to me. Same restraints, same backing, same seats, except for the design on the front. Why has ours had so many more problems with it?

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I'm thinking that the constant gap between the steel topper track is to blame. There is a crack every 6 feet or so. Maybe that bump over and over again is enough to cut the polyurethane wheels and cause them to shred. The I-boxes are one consistent smooth piece of track, welded together so there is no bumps to ride over. This problem didn't exist on Outlaw Run because while outlaw run ahs the same track, it runs on steel wheels that can't shred from riding over bumps. If you think about it, there are no steel coasters on earth that share the same number and style of gaps in the track along its course while running polyurethane wheels.

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I've been wondering this, but why has the trains on Goliath had so many more problems than the trains on Medusa: Steel coaster in Mexico? The trains look exactly the same to me. Same restraints, same backing, same seats, except for the design on the front. Why has ours had so many more problems with it?

 

What problems exactly have they been having with it? Do they have problems with communication between the train restraints and the control panel (i.e. opening the electrical box at the back of each car to check the wiring)

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^Wheels? It's the only thing I know is different.
Well there has also been problems with the Velcro padding on the train flying off mid course, hasn't there? I did not realize that the wheels were different either.
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Get there before opening (you should already be lined up to park) and head straight to Goliath. It has been opening early on some days. Ride that in the back if the grouper will allow. If you're alone; Goliath, Batman and Superman all have Single Rider Queues, look for the signs. Go fresh grill in the food court, JB's Sports Bar in Southwest Territory, and Mooseburger Lodge are the best restaurants. Raging Bull is a must in the back. I also prefer Eagle Red over Eagle Blue. X Flight either side in front is awesome. The train is operational again, running round trip journeys departing in hometown square next to Triple Play. Sit on the right side for excellent views of Goliath.

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Hey everybody! So I know this has been asked a lot in this thread, but I'm planning a visit to Six Flags before I head back to school. I was wondering, is there a noticeable difference in the crowds the second week or third week in August as opposed to some time in July? Or would it be worth my time to wait until around August 25th (the last day before I have to head back to school) to avoid big crowds? Thanks!

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I'd ride Viper in the back. Raging bull back left. Also, if you decide to do raging bull twice, use the second go around as an opportunity to ride in the very front. Don't waste your time in any other rows; time is money my friend! Batman has great foliage and dips over water. Ride in the front for great views, or back for constant greyouts.

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