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The Pictoriums at both Great Americas have run their course, time to remove them and use that space for something new and exciting.

 

Which park will remove theirs first?

 

Six Flags Great America. I'm basing this on the fact that CGA is still not stable with their finances yet and removing an asset on their property for future development doesn't seem like a smart move at the moment, especially given that they just purchased Goldstriker a year ago.

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I could definitely see Great America removing the Pictorium. The last time I saw a show (Screams & Dreams 3 - early May 2014), There were about twenty people at the show. The expenses of running the projector, AC, and other costs such as hiring the employees that run the show and clean the place afterwards, just don't seem worth it. They would pull many more visitors in with a new ride, in turn making more money for the park instead of wasting it.

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I could definitely see Great America removing the Pictorium. The last time I saw a show (Screams & Dreams 3 - early May 2014), There were about twenty people at the show. The expenses of running the projector, AC, and other costs such as hiring the employees that run the show and clean the place afterwards, just don't seem worth it. They would pull many more visitors in with a new ride, in turn making more money for the park instead of wasting it.

 

Alright, so we're all in agreement. Someone get Hank on the phone. The Pictorium Planning Commission has made its decision.

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The Pictoriums at both Great Americas have run their course, time to remove them and use that space for something new and exciting.

 

Which park will remove theirs first?

 

Six Flags Great America. I'm basing this on the fact that CGA is still not stable with their finances yet and removing an asset on their property for future development doesn't seem like a smart move at the moment, especially given that they just purchased Goldstriker a year ago.

There was never an issue with the parks finances, it was an issue of the old Cedar Fair management neglecting it because they thought they were going to sell the property and demolish it so the stadium could be built. Financially, they were fine.

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Well when the right project comes along, whatever that may be, then it's going. It doesn't do the park much good right now except to serve as storage and a maze location. A new attraction could serve the park and it's guests so much better there.... at both parks.

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The Pictoriums at both Great Americas have run their course, time to remove them and use that space for something new and exciting.

 

Which park will remove theirs first?

 

Six Flags Great America. I'm basing this on the fact that CGA is still not stable with their finances yet and removing an asset on their property for future development doesn't seem like a smart move at the moment, especially given that they just purchased Goldstriker a year ago.

There was never an issue with the parks finances, it was an issue of the old Cedar Fair management neglecting it because they thought they were going to sell the property and demolish it so the stadium could be built. Financially, they were fine.

 

After researching it a bit I appear to have my facts incorrect. This also reintroduces one of the major questions I have about the park, which the debt issue was a long excuse for: Why does the place so dang crappy and ran down for a major California theme park? I know a lot of parks could use some TLC but this one is one of the worst offenders for what I feel like should be a well maintained park. Going to Discovery Kingdom is like night and day compared to CGA.

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The Pictoriums at both Great Americas have run their course, time to remove them and use that space for something new and exciting.

 

Which park will remove theirs first?

 

Six Flags Great America. I'm basing this on the fact that CGA is still not stable with their finances yet and removing an asset on their property for future development doesn't seem like a smart move at the moment, especially given that they just purchased Goldstriker a year ago.

There was never an issue with the parks finances, it was an issue of the old Cedar Fair management neglecting it because they thought they were going to sell the property and demolish it so the stadium could be built. Financially, they were fine.

 

After researching it a bit I appear to have my facts incorrect. This also reintroduces one of the major questions I have about the park, which the debt issue was a long excuse for: Why does the place so dang crappy and ran down for a major California theme park?

 

Off topic, but I second this, seeing as CGA is right in the middle of one of the wealthiest counties in the country.

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I honestly don't see them removing Pictorium. They use it during Fright Fest and if they actually have something to show that he GP would enjoy that is shown using a decent projector, then things would be different. The park is lacking theaters as it is, and I don't think they can afford to lose another one.

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I've been told there has been discussion concerning the old Theatre Royale and possibly converting it back to it's former glory from TDK queue. The Dark Knight queue would then be moved outside. If that were to become a reality, the park could easily move Susan Rosen into Theatre Royale. So, I would honestly not completely rule it out as an option of removing Pictorium.

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I don't mean to ask the same question as everyone. I keep hearing the same thing over and over saying goliath I suppose to open June 15. is this true or just a rumor?

 

I honestly don't think that is going to happen. The media date is after that day, and with a normal schedule, the media day occurs before the opening day. Until the park releases an official opening day, I wouldn't trust any of the speculation.

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The Pictoriums at both Great Americas have run their course, time to remove them and use that space for something new and exciting.

 

Which park will remove theirs first?

 

Six Flags Great America. I'm basing this on the fact that CGA is still not stable with their finances yet and removing an asset on their property for future development doesn't seem like a smart move at the moment, especially given that they just purchased Goldstriker a year ago.

There was never an issue with the parks finances, it was an issue of the old Cedar Fair management neglecting it because they thought they were going to sell the property and demolish it so the stadium could be built. Financially, they were fine.

 

After researching it a bit I appear to have my facts incorrect. This also reintroduces one of the major questions I have about the park, which the debt issue was a long excuse for: Why does the place so dang crappy and ran down for a major California theme park? I know a lot of parks could use some TLC but this one is one of the worst offenders for what I feel like should be a well maintained park. Going to Discovery Kingdom is like night and day compared to CGA.

 

CGA is actually a nicely maintained park, they keep up on painting, planting, and maintenance so I don't understand how it could appear crappy and run down. Have you been to Magic Mountain lately?

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The Pictoriums at both Great Americas have run their course, time to remove them and use that space for something new and exciting.

 

Which park will remove theirs first?

 

Six Flags Great America. I'm basing this on the fact that CGA is still not stable with their finances yet and removing an asset on their property for future development doesn't seem like a smart move at the moment, especially given that they just purchased Goldstriker a year ago.

There was never an issue with the parks finances, it was an issue of the old Cedar Fair management neglecting it because they thought they were going to sell the property and demolish it so the stadium could be built. Financially, they were fine.

 

After researching it a bit I appear to have my facts incorrect. This also reintroduces one of the major questions I have about the park, which the debt issue was a long excuse for: Why does the place so dang crappy and ran down for a major California theme park? I know a lot of parks could use some TLC but this one is one of the worst offenders for what I feel like should be a well maintained park. Going to Discovery Kingdom is like night and day compared to CGA.

 

CGA is actually a nicely maintained park, they keep up on painting, planting, and maintenance so I don't understand how it could appear crappy and run down. Have you been to Magic Mountain lately?

 

I have, actually. It's a shame that Magic Mountain operates the way they do and a lot of their really good themeing is starting to get bulldozed over, but I still stand behing my thoughts that CGA needs more work. Some of the work they've put into it is actually quite nice but I have this memory of visiting last year of sitting on the drop tower there. The restraints were gross and old, the pavement under the queue and ride was cracking, the queue sun canvas was really old and ripping, and the ride really needed a paint job. It felt second rate, and that was only one example.

 

It just seemed, I don't know, worn down. Needing some TLC pretty badly. It looks like they're trying but it seems like a new effort; like, what took them so long to realize that the place needed work?

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I went to CGA back when it was Paramount's Great America, and it was faar more well-kept than SFGAm, which I would frequent almost daily as a teenager around the same time. Our coasters were better, but their pavement, landscaping, characters, paint jobs and color breadth of buildings, cleanliness, everything was better. We had/have way better coasters, but their park was cleaner and better looking. It amazed me to see the same exact buildings but to not be able to SMELL the heat radiating off the midway or see piles of gum stepped over everywhere or paint chipping. The buildings didn't look old, they looked vibrant (Orleans Place and Yankee Harbor, for example). They'd taken out the railroad and its station and there was one long linear midway going all the way to county fair, which I liked in some respects but also appreciated that it hasn't been done to our park (and we still have wizzer). And they still had the vine tunnel over the midway in front of Demon. This was back when they still had Stealth. Demon was much smoother than our's. Then, they got ridd of stealth for a water park. Where we have Superman: UF and Shockwave before, paramount had a massive amphitheater and boring stunt show.

 

Maybe today, following Six Flags change in direction shortly thereafter, our park has improved in all categories and is now returning to the thrill ride issue/investments with X-Flight and Goliath. If there has been a dip at CGA since being bought by paramount, I wouldnt' know, because I haven't been, and they haven't given me any reason to. My observations are from 2004/2005 and a lot ohas changed since then. But cleanliness and aesthetics aside, SFGAM won then and still today in its stock of coasters and attractions. It is and was at the time a better full-day park and one with rides worth visiting for. PGA was super clean and pretty but dead at the time and there were only 4 rides you actually needed to go on.

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FYI: According to a banner on the SFGAm website main page, Goliath will officially open to the public on June 19th.

Oh my.. that's the day I leave back from Chicago to California. Luckily my flight is at 5pm. I might actually get to ride this thing after all... I had already accepted the fact that I wasn't gonna get the chance to ride it this time around.

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^I completely agree with your speculation. Great America is one of the "big" parks, and should have one installed. The space from Ragin' Cajun would perfectly accommodate that ride. I think the Pictorium spot would better house a dark ride. But, we don't have to worry about this yet - Goliath is almost here!

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The Pictoriums at both Great Americas have run their course, time to remove them and use that space for something new and exciting.

 

Which park will remove theirs first?

 

Six Flags Great America. I'm basing this on the fact that CGA is still not stable with their finances yet and removing an asset on their property for future development doesn't seem like a smart move at the moment, especially given that they just purchased Goldstriker a year ago.

There was never an issue with the parks finances, it was an issue of the old Cedar Fair management neglecting it because they thought they were going to sell the property and demolish it so the stadium could be built. Financially, they were fine.

 

After researching it a bit I appear to have my facts incorrect. This also reintroduces one of the major questions I have about the park, which the debt issue was a long excuse for: Why does the place so dang crappy and ran down for a major California theme park? I know a lot of parks could use some TLC but this one is one of the worst offenders for what I feel like should be a well maintained park. Going to Discovery Kingdom is like night and day compared to CGA.

 

CGA is actually a nicely maintained park, they keep up on painting, planting, and maintenance so I don't understand how it could appear crappy and run down. Have you been to Magic Mountain lately?

 

I have, actually. It's a shame that Magic Mountain operates the way they do and a lot of their really good themeing is starting to get bulldozed over, but I still stand behing my thoughts that CGA needs more work. Some of the work they've put into it is actually quite nice but I have this memory of visiting last year of sitting on the drop tower there. The restraints were gross and old, the pavement under the queue and ride was cracking, the queue sun canvas was really old and ripping, and the ride really needed a paint job. It felt second rate, and that was only one example.

 

It just seemed, I don't know, worn down. Needing some TLC pretty badly. It looks like they're trying but it seems like a new effort; like, what took them so long to realize that the place needed work?

 

I agree, it's not perfect and still does need work but they are getting there.

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Six Flags Great America advertises a Thrill Pass unlimited visits for 64.99 on it's website.

I am going the 19th and 20th and likely won't return this season. I am thinking of going this route. Has anyone else done this and is it a solid deal? Seems like the best route for 2 days Thanks!

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