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Park president Hank Salemi did say tonight at the meeting that the ride will use polyurethane wheels.

 

^ That sounds like Intamin to me. RMC's whole argument on why Outlaw Run was a woodie was the steal wheels the train utilized.

 

NTAG and IRAT both have polyurethane wheels.

 

But Intamin said they were not going to do any inversions. I'm starting to wonder if this is going to be a I-Box track.

 

Edit: I wouldn't put it past Six Flags to claim it as a wooden roller coaster. This is their tidbit on the Texas Giant.

 

Sandor will build anything you ask for if you have cash in hand.

 

I know GCI has a woodie with polyurethane wheels, and RMC could very well put them on their train with topper track. If that's the case, it's a wooden coaster. But if this is a I-Box track and Six Flags is trying to claim it as a wooden coaster (which they've done with Texas Giant), then isn't a wooden coaster. I say that because neither NTAG or IRAT are voted as wooden coasters, but as steel coasters. Personally, I really don't care if it's wood or steel, as long as it's awesome. If the RMC rumors hold true, I'm going to ride my first two RMC's next year!

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But if this is a I-Box track and Six Flags is trying to claim it as a wooden coaster (which they've done with Texas Giant), then isn't a wooden coaster. I say that because neither NTAG or IRAT are voted as wooden coasters, but as steel coasters.

 

The best part about the blossoming success story that is RMC is that there ought not to be any questions regarding the classification of their rides, ever.

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Voyage only cost $8.5 million and it is over 2000 feet longer and not all that much shorter with still decent capacity and plays just as well with the GP. Granted it does need a fair amount of track upkeep but doesn't have the reliability issues that Intamins entail.

 

Thing is, El Toro is plenty reliable. Not all Intamins are chock-full of downtime - that's mostly the hydraulic launches, because quite frankly no other company has invested itself in such an advanced piece of technology that's expected to run flawlessly hundreds of times a day.

 

But I digress. If Voyage cost $8 million when it was built but tears itself apart year after year, somehow I think that $8 million very well may have turned in to more than the $12 price tag for El Toro. Toro's getting its lift motor replaced right now, but aside from that I can't think of any prolonged work that's been done on it - I'm not even sure that they've done any trackwork on it in what, seven years?

 

Steer back on topic: RMC seems like it's going to prove to be the best of both worlds. You get the $10 million price tag, but you get a reliable ride (though I hear Outlaw Run has had its fair share of kinks, to be expected though) and you get a ride that doesn't need to be rebuilt every winter. RMC and GCI are the wooden Intamin and B&M, essentially. And I'm totally okay with that!

 

yeah, I am not aware El Toro has any maintenance issues.

To-date, no one has been able to give a satisfying answer as to why no other Intamin pre-fab "woodie" has been ordered for a North American park. Very odd.

 

in terms of what is going in at SFGAM, as long as it has airtime hills, I would be thrilled with a RMC like Outlaw Run. I just "worry" that SFGam will go inversion mad, rather than focus on hills.

 

In terms of 2015 or beyond, a make-over to American Eagle ala Rattler or Texas Giant would be a perfect choice. Hopefully the freak accident on the Texas Giant doesn't scare parks away.

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Screamscape has posted the layout plans of the woodie.

 

 

This appears to have some sort of Immelmann inversion. Also, the drop heights (posted on Screamscape, I'll quote them at the end of the post), are weird. Screamscape suggested a possible booster section. Rumor has it they're suggesting the name "Goliath" for the hints, but in reality, Screamscape says the name could be unique.

 

If I didn’t mention it before, the new wooden coaster coming to the Iron Wolf spot is still from RMC. The hints the park is dropping is making people assume that the new ride may be called Goliath once again… but If the rumors I’m hearing hold out, this coaster will have a unique name all to itself. Now a local reader went to the meeting and reported back on what it will be like. While it will be 165 feet tall, as I expected, it will drop 13 feet underground, for a total drop of 178 feet. Following this will be a second drop of 124 ft, then a 60 ft drop, and the fourth drop is 100 feet, followed by an 80ft, 65 ft and final 56 foot drop. This is a full circuit ride layout. Right before that forth drop that suddenly jumps in height is a weird track element in the middle of the ride, circled in blue in the layout image they sent. It makes me wonder if this might be some kind of inversion, possibly with some kind of launch booster before it.

 

I seriously hope that it woodies in the near future will not have to feature inversions or gimmicks to get the GP to ride them. Not saying its a bad thing, but I don't want to fuel the GP's obsessions. Ignoring woodies and just talking about the GP in general, when I went to SFGAdv, there were times when Toro (no inversions, records not publicized quite as much as KK) had a short line. I never saw KK with as short as a line as Toro. Just a thought. I really want to get the GP off of the inversion-happy thing so we can get something like a Mega-Lite here. Unfortunately, the GP have spoken - the only Mega-Lite we can have has to be oversized just to get people to ride it. While the Mega-Lite, the more economical choice that provides a similarly intense ride experience, would be shunned by the GP as a kiddie ride, and when a park needs a compact coaster, they rush towards the twisty SLC GP magnet. Rant over... for now.

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I agree woodies dont need new tech or gimmicks to be awesome. Eagle, viper, and hellcat are all in my top ten coasters. Eagle is a classic that marked the final reign of a woodie for height and speed. It was a perfect envelope pusher. Viper is a famous clone executed to perfection. And hellcat is jamming an epic ride in a tiny footprint. The thing is you have to accept some things are here to stay and some fall by the wayside too soon. Standup coasters were a fad. Btr was the first suspended coaster and is the most copied and cloned ride anywhere. People always want to copy the new fad in coasters. If people want a gimick or two then fine... as long as they dont interrupt ride pacing or forces. People want to bring back cutting edge tech to woodies and I say awesome...as long as form follows function. An epic coaster has great forces, pace, and well placed elements within its land footprint. I am super excited for this ride, and think it might give good argument for removal of a few rides in the future. I also really do hope we eventually get a gforce machine in the form of a mega launch coaster or a mega looper of some sort. The park really had an awesome chill factor when shockeave was up front and no ride in the park is as fear inducing. No other ride had quite so much going on. So many elements so much speed and such an awesome appearance in one ride was a huge loss we are still trying to replace. We really do need rides that are awesome because they push the limits but if they dont have an awesome park buzz creating presence, awesome pace and great forces... they really are not what our park needs. I can make a strong argument that btr is the most intense ride in the park. While we have added many great rides since 2002 I think our park is really less intense than it was in 2001-2002.

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Outlaw Run is an amazing coaster. It beats every coaster I've ridden by a long shot. It is intense, insane, airtime-filled, and smooth. Everything I want in a wooden coaster. The inversions are also amazing.

 

If RMC is doing this coaster, I have no doubt this ride will be just as good, maybe even better. RMC just keeps increasing the level of awesomeness in their coasters. If they keep it up, I have no doubt they will be the best manufacturer in the industry.

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I hate it when parks I have no desire to go back to, add a coaster (still speculation) that makes it mandatory to go back. And the year after my last visit just to rub it in.

 

If it's what's being described in Screamscape it will be amazing.

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A Chicago Bear's themed coaster!

 

Do you want the ride to suck? Although I think a name like Grizzly would be a nice name for a wooden coaster, plus it's right next to Yukon Territory. When I was young I thought Iron Wolf was in Yukon Territory so why not this

 

Slight Themeing YAY!

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I have been boycotting Six Flags Great America (while living in Chicago) for a few years now. With a new wooden coaster in place, and not having ridden X flight yet I am thinking that next year I may give the park a day and see if it wins me back. I rode GateKeeper and Wild Eagle in the last two weeks and think Wild Eagle is head and shoulders above GateKeeper and I have heard from others that GateKeeper is much better than X Flight. I am hoping that this new wooden coaster is not much different from ThunderHead in Dollywood. That ride was unbelievable and gave the most fun ride than anything SFGA offers now (Raging Bull and Whizzer aside)

 

Clearly you hangout with Cedar Point fanboys. I haven't heard anyone say Gatekeeper is better than X-Flight.

 

Kind of excited about this addition, but to be honest, the layout doesn't look all that exciting. Even with the Dive loop/immelman whatchamahoosie. Granted we know nothing about the rest of the ride....so pontificating about how awesome, or not awesome it will be is silly.

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I have been boycotting Six Flags Great America (while living in Chicago) for a few years now. With a new wooden coaster in place, and not having ridden X flight yet I am thinking that next year I may give the park a day and see if it wins me back. I rode GateKeeper and Wild Eagle in the last two weeks and think Wild Eagle is head and shoulders above GateKeeper and I have heard from others that GateKeeper is much better than X Flight. I am hoping that this new wooden coaster is not much different from ThunderHead in Dollywood. That ride was unbelievable and gave the most fun ride than anything SFGA offers now (Raging Bull and Whizzer aside)

 

Clearly you hangout with Cedar Point fanboys. I haven't heard anyone say Gatekeeper is better than X-Flight.

 

Kind of excited about this addition, but to be honest, the layout doesn't look all that exciting. Even with the Dive loop/immelman whatchamahoosie. Granted we know nothing about the rest of the ride....so pontificating about how awesome, or not awesome it will be is silly.

 

I've ridden both Gatekeeper and X-Flight several times. In my opinion X-Flight is a much better ride.

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^I did earlier this summer, and I didn't really care for it. I think X-Flight is better than Wild Eagle, though I wouldn't say I was all that impressed with X-Flight, either. I will be going to CP in a few weeks so hopefully I can see how GateKeeper stacks up. Honestly, I just want the B&M Wing Rider craze to be over.

 

Edit- I think this country needs less B&M wing coasters and more Intamin Skyrush-esque wing coasters!!

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Here's how I rank the WingRiders I've been on:

 

1. X Flight

2. Gate Keeper

3. X Raptor

4. Wild Eagle

 

Keep in mind, none of these would even make my top 50 coasters!!! Possibly even my top 100. Gate Keeper may have gotten the edge over X-Flight if it hadn't been so terribly rough!! Hanno and I had the worst ride ever on it.

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