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^^ I'd be pissed too but it was all going to come on Wednesday anyways. At least this is all she said about it, there's still plenty to hype about the ride.

 

Speaking of the teasers, they did a great job of throwing people off since those videos were filled with so many false clues. But now I'm wondering what the real clues actually were.

 

Yeah there definitely is more to see and this does sound amazing. I can't wait to see what Wednesday brings.

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Of course, there is another statement about it being the fastest. It certainly wouldn't be the world's fastest steel, so if you put that and wood coaster together, it does fit. Hopefully, the Daily Herald came through here.

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I had hoped for an RMC more than anything but I figured with the space available, a Premier was more likely. I'm extremely happy about this! I wonder if they will remove the Wilderness Theater and possibly cut into part of Picnic Grove for this ride. What if they remove Camp Cartoon and build a new kids section (or relocate the rides) to where the Southwest Amphitheater is now and create a western themed kids area with maybe Yosemite Sam and stuff. Just a thought.

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^^See, if you had asked me what was going in IW's spot after its removal, I would have said compact GCI woodie, then when I heard 165 ft., I like you figured a Premier launch with a giant loop, figuring 165 was too high a lift in that space. But, it sounds like it may happen!

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Wow, wouldn't have guessed something like that. Hope it's true! Not really a fan of this park, but there are still a few things they do right, and I'd be glad to go back for a project like this.

 

I like when parks with multiple wooden coasters keep on adding 'em (you could call this their fifth if so inclined). I wouldn't have expected a GCI, as Viper, though more intense than many of them, is basically in the same vein. Just be glad we're in an age where we can expect a 165' woodie to be by RMC or Intamin, rather than, say, TGG or Dinn.

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Website just went down for maintnaince. Everything should be back up now.

After reading that. I fully believe they have the chance to make the best wooden coaster in the world, lets see if they can fully produce. I would have never expected it but now thinking about it. That will look soo nice being the the back wooded section of the park, i wonder if they are going to extend out into the wilderness theater for this??

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There has to be some type of construction going on that nobody can see. I don't care how fast RMC's crews are, there is no way they'll be finished with this ride by opening day, let alone June. There is going to be hundreds of footers that have to be poured and thousands of bents that have to be constructed.

 

Edit: If they do get it open by May, kudos to RMC.

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Is 165 feet really tall enough to produce the worlds fastest woodie? I believe Outlaw run currently has that record. Now let me put on my crazy enthusiast theorist hat and say this, could this be the launched woodie we've been waiting for?

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Is 165 feet really tall enough to produce the worlds fastest woodie? I believe Outlaw run currently has that record. Now let me put on my crazy enthusiast theorist hat and say this, could this be the launched woodie we've been waiting for?

 

You have to take the terrain into account. Outlaw Run is 107 feet tall, but the drop is 162 feet.

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I'm not certain, but I would assume that the Village would only require them to state the height above ground, so the drop could very well be bigger than 165 feet. I guess we'll know for sure in a few days!

 

(I really hope it's RMC or Intamin)

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There has to be some type of construction going on that nobody can see. I don't care how fast RMC's crews are, there is no way they'll be finished with this ride by opening day, let alone June. There is going to be hundreds of footers that have to be poured and thousands of bents that have to be constructed.

 

Edit: If they do get it open by May, kudos to RMC.

 

While I don't know about footers, Outlaw Run went vertical early April 2012, and the last piece of track went in late September 2012, so about six months. Great America tends to aim to get rides open by Memorial Day, which is about nine months away. So assuming they start working on the ground soon, I wouldn't say a late May opening is entirely out of the question. Of course they will be working through the winter versus the summer and the terrain is different so I could be totally wrong and it could open in July, but OR is the only RMC coaster we have to go off of.

 

As long as it doesn't pull a Deja Vu and open in October, I'll be happy.

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There has to be some type of construction going on that nobody can see. I don't care how fast RMC's crews are, there is no way they'll be finished with this ride by opening day, let alone June. There is going to be hundreds of footers that have to be poured and thousands of bents that have to be constructed.

 

Edit: If they do get it open by May, kudos to RMC.

 

While I don't know about footers, Outlaw Run went vertical early April 2012, and the last piece of track went in late September 2012, so about six months. Great America tends to aim to get rides open by Memorial Day, which is about nine months away. So assuming they start working on the ground soon, I wouldn't say a late May opening is entirely out of the question. Of course they will be working through the winter versus the summer and the terrain is different so I could be totally wrong and it could open in July, but OR is the only RMC coaster we have to go off of.

 

As long as it doesn't pull a Deja Vu and open in October, I'll be happy.

 

They're going to be pushing it. If there are no footers, they're going to have to have that done by the end of fall. Concrete and sub-zero temperatures are not ideal. Don't forget, RMC had to go through and put on the top layer of steel on the track. Then pump it full of grout, so the track doesn't lose it's form. That's what they did during September through January, with testing in February.

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If it's going to be the world's fastest woodie, it's going to need a drop bigger than 165 feet. At that height, the train would probably touch 65-68 mph. It needs to be over 70 mph to hold the record.

 

Launch?

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Everyone seems to rule out the fastest wooden coaster record. Eagle on 127 ft hill 147ft drop on ancient tech does 66. If you have a monstrously long train and a lift chain moving fast you can have a train moving 10+mph over the hill. With a near vertical 175 foot drop and 10mph head start 74mph is easily doable. Plus there are also launch or boost possibilities. You never know. What theyll incorporate these days. Who knows... Ive always wanted a high speed dual speed lift hill to "throw" a train over the first hill. And technically you could include a lim launch or boost system in a wooden coaster, it just has never been done.

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This news is a surprise, and if true, we could be looking at something that can be one of the best coasters in the world. I was happy with the possibility of just getting a Sky Screamer, but a great wooden coaster will be a great addition to the park. I like Great America's coasters, but they haven't added one that I try to visit every time since 1995. Having something on par with Outlaw Run or El Toro will change that, and it'll be interesting to see what the ride does given the, as of now, small area of land. Even with the removal of the theater, it might still require some creative thinking to get a coaster that tall and fast to fit in such a space.

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I keep looking at the space availavble and Ive realized a few tough choices they had to make.. Either a crazy tight twisting multi inversion beast or a launched wooden coaster are the most likely possibilities. It makes me happy we wont have an el toro type clone because bull is similar style and theme and space restrictions. Airtime twisters arent my thing. This could be the most twisted extreme wooden coaster ever! If not then it almost certainly is a launched - and the first of its kind.

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^You have obviously never ridden El Toro. It is NOTHING like Raging Bull- it is a much greater coaster than Raging Bull could ever be. If they tore any current coaster out and built and exact clone of El Toro in its place I would be the happiest person on the planet. Yes, I am an El Toro fanboy, but it was the fact that the ejector air I had on El Toro was like nothing I could even describe to people that made me a fanboy of it.

 

There should be more than enough room for plenty of ejector airtime hills and a barrell roll or 2 . I really hope it doesn't break the wooden coaster inversion record. Having one or 2 inversions would be cool, but I'd much prefer more ejector air to a bunch of inversions.

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If it's going to be the world's fastest woodie, it's going to need a drop bigger than 165 feet. At that height, the train would probably touch 65-68 mph. It needs to be over 70 mph to hold the record.

 

 

Launch?

 

Fastest wooden but at 165 ft...hmmm... there must be an under ground tunnel or maybe they will be use the lower grade by the wilderness theater to have a larger drop. It would have to go more than 70mph to exceed the speed record.

 

If I'm not mistaken, Alan did say that these RMC coasters could launch... if so that would be a first record right there. That would be a huge and pleasant surprise... JUST TONS OF WOW Factor that would gain world-wide attention.

 

My guess at records would be:

Speed - fastest wooden coaster

Most Inversions or something like tallest loop on a wooden coaster or tallest inversion on wooden coaster.

Steepest drop on wooden coaster

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