Tmcdllr Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 ^That's too bad, I would have liked to see a properly shot POV video with no shaking or rattling. There are no shakes or rattles in Robb's POV mounted cam videos which makes them 1000 times better and they look so good-it's very professional and really gives you a better sense of what the ride is really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glouthan Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 The webcam is no longer working for me - it never loads. Am I the only one with this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intaman Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 This does look incredibly awesome. It's still somewhat surreal to a coaster like this at the park. Sadly, I'll have to miss the media day. But, TPR and Scandi is far more exciting . I'll be sure to get over there immediately after I get back from the trip or a couple days after depending how fast I recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatAmerican2234 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 The webcam is no longer working for me - it never loads. Am I the only one with this problem? The webcam has been down for me for about a week and a half. I wonder why that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glouthan Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 ^Then it is not just me. Maybe since the construction work is done, they took it off the web? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallDuell Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Seems strange to not remove the webcam from the Goliath page if it has, indeed, been taken offline permanently....although, I guess, maybe they're leaving it there so people can sift through the archived time lapse stills (assuming you can still do that)? They squeezed in an incredible amount of action into a relatively small footprint.....I'm sure you'll hardly be able to catch your breath, but it sure would be nice to have some more ride time (especially for the first year or three when wait times are sure to be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BintamiM Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 This looks great. Looks like it will have hang time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 In the RMC way of designing coasters, I believe the up and down parts of the first overbanked turn, the up part of the dive loop, the two final turns will provide airtime. When going up the Dive Loop, the track's twist center is definitely lower than heartline which is similar to the twist off Outlaw Run's outward banked turn. The two final turns are similar to NTaG's second turn I believe. As for the two twists of the Zero G Stall, I do hope that RMC can make three airtime moments in one element. So in total, including the first drop, there will be at least 9 airtime during the whole ride. Outlaw Run only has 7 and it is already awesome enough to make it to No.3 in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 In the RMC way of designing coasters, I believe the up and down parts of the first overbanked turn, the up part of the dive loop, the two final turns will provide airtime. When going up the Dive Loop, the track's twist center is definitely lower than heartline which is similar to the twist off Outlaw Run's outward banked turn. The two final turns are similar to NTaG's second turn I believe. As for the two twists of the Zero G Stall, I do hope that RMC can make three airtime moments in one element. So in total, including the first drop, there will be at least 9 airtime during the whole ride. Outlaw Run only has 7 and it is already awesome enough to make it to No.3 in the world. Airtime moments =/= airtime. I'd rather have a nice and long pop of airtime (like going over El Toro's big hills) than a bunch of super-intense but super-quick jolts (Lightning Run's bunny hops). I feel like the only "good" hill in the layout is the one between the big curve and the dive loop. Also, by your logic, Phoenix should be ranked higher than Outlaw Run, as it has at least thirteen "moments of airtime"... Watching the on-ride video again, the transitions into the curves (and probably out in the back seats) look pretty vicious (in a good way). It seems like the lift is so slow for good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredskull84 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 They were still testing as the park closed at 9pm today. Also, the red train is officially on the transfer track, but they're still only testing with the orange train. And while I was over by the station, an employee working there said they will only be running 1 train when they open the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aCoasterStory Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 And while I was over by the station, an employee working there said they will only be running 1 train when they open the ride. Ouch. The lines for this thing were already going to be absurd. What are the chances they don't include it on the flash passes? Or maybe do like SFMM and make it a $15 or $20 per-ride upcharge on top of a platinum flash pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatAmerican2234 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Will be at park tomorrow, expect many photos and possibly a video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 They were still testing as the park closed at 9pm today. Also, the red train is officially on the transfer track, but they're still only testing with the orange train. And while I was over by the station, an employee working there said they will only be running 1 train when they open the ride. I could be wrong, and this may have NOTHING to do with it. But in one of the testing videos when something flew off of the train in the airtime hill, was it the red train? If so could that have caused the delay in the red train? (Just a thought) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Also, by your logic, Phoenix should be ranked higher than Outlaw Run, as it has at least thirteen "moments of airtime"... I mean there are nine airtime moments like those on Outlaw Run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndCamSS Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 They were still testing as the park closed at 9pm today. Also, the red train is officially on the transfer track, but they're still only testing with the orange train. And while I was over by the station, an employee working there said they will only be running 1 train when they open the ride. I could be wrong, and this may have NOTHING to do with it. But in one of the testing videos when something flew off of the train in the airtime hill, was it the red train? If so could that have caused the delay in the red train? (Just a thought) Nope. They haven't run red yet and I'm sure that didn't cause any delays either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Johnson Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 And while I was over by the station, an employee working there said they will only be running 1 train when they open the ride. Ouch. The lines for this thing were already going to be absurd. What are the chances they don't include it on the flash passes? Or maybe do like SFMM and make it a $15 or $20 per-ride upcharge on top of a platinum flash pass? According to the web site. Goliath will be on the platinum pass only. So far there is no indication if it is only one ride or not. That is over $100 a person if you wanted one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glouthan Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Only one train?!? That's just crazy! We should be expecting lines longer than Banshee's line on opening day. I still don't know how their queue will hold a 90 min + wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 ^That's too bad, I would have liked to see a properly shot POV video with no shaking or rattling. There are no shakes or rattles in Robb's POV mounted cam videos which makes them 1000 times better and they look so good-it's very professional and really gives you a better sense of what the ride is really like. Yes, the TPR videos are the best POV's on Youtube hands down. Or up might be more appropriate seeing it's roller coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kailisun98 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Wait... Is Goliath going to run one train at opening only or forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Wait... Is Goliath going to run one train at opening only or forever? On the announcement last year it was said it would run two trains and be a "high capacity ride". Look 8:43 in to this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid21 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 ^Well I'm sure they want it to have two trains operating. It's not like they were expecting a problem with trains back when it was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfgam#1 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I doubt that's true, based on how much false information we've gotten from the employees already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glouthan Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Wait... Is Goliath going to run one train at opening only or forever? I'm pretty sure Goliath is going to eventually run two trains because they ordered two trains. If they didn't ever run the second, it would be a huge waste of money. Whatever the problem is, I would expect them to eventually fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggerg56 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 This has nothing to do with Goliath......Something I don't understand from a marketing/operations standpoint. American Eagle has a tremendous amount of advertising for #blueside tied in with The Blue Man Group. There is a ton of signage around the coaster and they've handed out flyers, etc at the parking entry as well. But, they start the day using the red side only and don't open blue until later, if it all. Why not just use the blue side if that's a prmotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilrider Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I fully expect both Goliath trains to be operating from the beginning. This park is too busy to operate one train on anything but the coasters that have only one train (V2, Spacely's, Little Dipper). Someone reported on SFGAm World that the red train is on the track today, so it sounds like they will both get plenty of testing. I have learned not to put much faith into what some random employee says. On opening day, while standing at Goliath, an employee sweeping in the area talked to me about the ride, then proceeded to tell me 14 people have died on coasters at Disney parks this year, but they are so good at keeping it out of the media, nobody ever finds out. I figured I would have heard something about it at TPR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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