DougMJr Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The airtime hill looks much taller than I expected And just imagine how much taller this beast will be when you use that to kinda get an idea of the scale of it! Mind blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^ You are absolutely right! I'm sensing a Best Ride award for several years to come from this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^ Good note, curious to see if it holds for 'several years' - I already assumed it would be for 2014, while the updated seats should add more comfort and keep this a higher rated ride without discomfort like the other RMC's with those poor shin bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^ Outlaw Run's shin bar is not that painful, it doesn't affect the experience. Goliath's improvement only shows how much does RMC care about their customers. That's way better than some of the other manufacturers out there. That airtime hill looks like it would generate some serious kick-a$$ ejector air. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^ I'm so glad it wasn't painful for you - IMO it took away from the experience a bit while struggling to find comfort with my long legs. Others have voiced similar opinions and reviews that the coaster would be ranked higher if there was a tad more padding there...definitely not complaining here on the SFGAm thread (could do that in the 'rant' thread if necessary). I have high no complaints here to take away from talk about Goliath and have high hopes for the thicker padding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barge84 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^ I've got to agree with you about the shin guard. I'd probably rank Outlaw Run #2 if it wouldn't have crushed my shins. 3 rides in 2 days was all I could handle, unfortunately. Hoping that the new shin guard will be much more comfortable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^ I've got to agree with you about the shin guard. I'd probably rank Outlaw Run #2 if it wouldn't have crushed my shins. 3 rides in 2 days was all I could handle, unfortunately. Hoping that the new shin guard will be much more comfortable! 2 Questions: Is Outlaw rough compared to New Texas Giant? Is there great airtime on the first drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zingoman Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^Outlaw Run is every bit as smooth at New Texas Giant. It does rattle and rumble like a wooden coaster is supposed to but it's still very slick and smooth. The steel wheels make all the difference. I prefer it. Goliath with have urethane wheels and will be ultra smooth and quiet like New Texas Giant. I prefer the excitement of a rattling thundering train over the sound of a little "whoosh" of air personally. Also yes, Outlaw Run has insane air at several moments during the ride including the first drop. Doesn't the brake run begin just a couple feet lower than that airtime hill? I didn't realize this thing was going to have so much speed left by the end and still be so high in the air! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenFreeze Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^I personally love the "rumble" that Outlaw Run has! It makes it feel like a wooden coaster, and I think it adds more excitement to the ride. I would not at all mind if Goliath was the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. M Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^Outlaw Run is every bit as smooth at New Texas Giant. It does rattle and rumble like a wooden coaster is supposed to but it's still very slick and smooth. The steel wheels make all the difference. I prefer it. Goliath with have urethane wheels and will be ultra smooth and quiet like New Texas Giant. I prefer the excitement of a rattling thundering train over the sound of a little "whoosh" of air personally. Also yes, Outlaw Run has insane air at several moments during the ride including the first drop. Doesn't the brake run begin just a couple feet lower than that airtime hill? I didn't realize this thing was going to have so much speed left by the end and still be so high in the air! Which airtime hill are we talking about? The one in the middle of the ride or the one at the end, which is really only half a hill, with the brake run down the other side? I've been looking at the pictures assuming it was the one in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I just looked on the web cam, and there are some bents laying down in the area of the turn around. I wonder if that is the next area to go vertical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Looking forward to the construction to really get going on this massive woodie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthegolfer Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Time for today's webcam update, more supports have been placed for the airtime hill, and the structure for the overbank is rising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Had Iron Wolf not been removed, I wonder where Goliath would have been placed in the park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollin_n_coastin Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thanks for grabbing these shots, especially in the snow. Did you feel a sense of loss over Iron Wolf? It's cool that they're re-using a station. It worked out more than exceptionally well for El Toro, so good things ahead obviously, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. M Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 ^I've never been to the park but I imagine anyone who would feel a sense of loss over the absence of a notoriously rough B&M stand-up when potentially one of the greatest wooden coasters ever built is being put in its place probably has a concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollin_n_coastin Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 ^Hopefully you realize that I was being just a bit facetious about Iron Wolf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwaziBSRider1 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I rode Iron Wolf as Apocalypse at SFA and I didn't think it was all that bad. I'll take it over Green Lantern any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBears Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) I rode Iron Wolf about 30 times in my life and I always found the first half to be okay. It was the second half that hurt because of standing position plus it makes really quick transitions in such a small area. In other words, it paced quickly in the 2nd half but the turns are really tight so it jerked you around. They never added the blocks before the corkscrew (which is why the track is dipped down the way it is in case they wanted to add them I believe). It might have helped a little by slowing it down but probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference. Corrected: This is the 2nd time this station has been reused. It first belonged to Iron Wolf in 1990 and now Goliath in 2014. Brandon Bruce told me it will undergo heavy renovations (which we already knew) and it'll be extended to accommodate the trains which are longer than Wolf's. He said we should also expect a themed entrance portal and station. EDIT: Six Flags Great America posted this yesterday of the floater hill on their FB page: Edited December 18, 2013 by GoBears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthegolfer Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 WGN's Marcus Leshock recently had his own construction tour of Goliath, and stated that the ride is on schedule to open Memorial Day Weekend. http://morningnews.wgntv.com/2013/12/13/site-tour-of-great-americas-newest-coaster-goliath/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barge84 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 ^ I've got to agree with you about the shin guard. I'd probably rank Outlaw Run #2 if it wouldn't have crushed my shins. 3 rides in 2 days was all I could handle, unfortunately. Hoping that the new shin guard will be much more comfortable! 2 Questions: Is Outlaw rough compared to New Texas Giant? Is there great airtime on the first drop? 1. Outlaw Run is incredibly smooth. I haven't been on New Texas Giant, it was closed when we were there due to the accident. 2. Yes. Even thought I knew it was coming, the airtime still kind of caught me by surprise on the first drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 ^ I've got to agree with you about the shin guard. I'd probably rank Outlaw Run #2 if it wouldn't have crushed my shins. 3 rides in 2 days was all I could handle, unfortunately. Hoping that the new shin guard will be much more comfortable! 2 Questions: Is Outlaw rough compared to New Texas Giant? Is there great airtime on the first drop? 1. "Rough" is not a word that can be used to describe Outlaw Run 2. Not only is the airtime great on the drop, on pretty much every element you are out of your seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Farmer Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 ^I've never been to the park but I imagine anyone who would feel a sense of loss over the absence of a notoriously rough B&M stand-up when potentially one of the greatest wooden coasters ever built is being put in its place probably has a concussion. There's something curious about dismissing a ride that you've never ridden in favor of a ride that no one has yet ridden (and in fact, currently exists in the form of some footers and sticks sticking out of the ground). In all liklihood, Goliath will be a great ride, and it's no secret that Stand-Ups don't have a sparkling reputation among many coaster people- but I can think of a few coasters that I like, but might have never bothered riding if I just went by what people said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I rode Iron Wolf as Apocalypse at SFA and I didn't think it was all that bad. I'll take it over Green Lantern any day. I agree, but I hate them both. I have to be fair though, even though I hated Apocalypse I was expecting worse after reading about it on coaster forums for so long. If I were a little shorter (I'm pretty tall which I think is why I hate standup coasters because they never used to bother me) I'd probably enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yay101 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Looks great so far! Does anyone remember how long Outlaw Run took to install? I'm just curious when it will open, and I'm not sure it will be ready by opening day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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