SFGAdv or Cedar Point

[BamBam36]

Top Thrill, far better than KK due to lack of OTSR and theming

 

Really? Far better because of theming? I can understand the objection to the OTSRs, though they were actually pretty comfy and, because of the particular forces (lotsa Gs, little air) on the ride, they seemed less onerous than they often do.

 

But the theming on TTD - aside from the Christmas tree - is a buncha flags and a long nose on the lead car, no? Yes, the bleachers are pretty cool, but KK is the center of a whole jungle-themed area, and the boarding station in particular is much nicer, IMO, than TTD's big concrete nothing.

 

Or did you mean that TTD's relative lack of theming made it better?

 

I didn't care much for Kingda Kas theming. nothing special to me. Seen it 100 times.

I found TTD's theming to add a lot to the ride. The station was awesome IMO, everything else worked well.

[Maverickrocks]

Edit: Forgot to say that other than CP there is NOTHING else to do in Northern Ohio, seriously. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame not included. But the drive down to KI is doable. However at Great Adventure you'll be pretty close to NYC.

It is Ohio- not exactly the most fun state in the country. But CP is located in Ohio's biggest tourist region, the Lake Erie Shores and Islands. So in addition to all the lake activities, you have Put-In-Bay, which you could say is the Key West of the North because of all of its nightlife and bars, and Kelly's Island, which is more family friendly and nature focused. There are also some random tourist sites scattered around the area, and of course Sandusky's array of indoor waterparks.

 

As for a choice between the two parks, I'd say it's just about even. I am somewhat of a CP fanboy, but I admit that the park has its flaws. It's still one of the better amusement parks out there though and is overall a well rounded park, despite what some others have said. It's got high profile thrill rides and a nice variety of other activites. I've never been to GAdv, so I can't give say anything about it. I'd say if you want a well rounded thrill park, go with CP, but if you only want coasters, GAdv might be the better option.

[Tbcoasterfan]

Yeah I wouldn't agree with that opinion of Nothern Ohio having nothing to do. That's a lot to do around here you just gotta know where to look. Now if it's the middle of winter then yeah I would tend to agree with you there's not a whole lot to do but there are still things.

As for Kellys Island not having a night life, I disagree with that cause I enjoyed bar hoping with my friends there when we went on the Goodtime Cruise (Booze Cruise) last summer.

 

Tom

[MagicMountainMan]

^ & ^^ Good points guys, maybe there is a tiny bit to do

 

Seriously though, I go back to Ohio at least once a year because my whole extended family is back there. There isn't much to do. You could probably do everything there is to do there in about 2 days (not including CP, water parks, or zoos in this one). I'd take Great Adventure's location near NYC any day. That's why I made the comparison.

[adeuce02]

how can u honestly say ttd has better themeing than kk. I just dont understand that. But w.e decision u make it will be a good one. I would just go to sfgadv plus u wanna see animals theres a drive thru zoo there.

[shepp]

I didn't care much for Kingda Kas theming. nothing special to me. Seen it 100 times.

 

Just curious, since I thought the whole KK area was surprisingly well done, certainly better than any theming I can recall from CP: 100 times? Aside from DAK, Adventureland, and maybe IOA's Port of Entry, where?

[coolcalicoaster]

how can u honestly say ttd has better themeing than kk. I just dont understand that. But w.e decision u make it will be a good one. I would just go to sfgadv plus u wanna see animals theres a drive thru zoo there.

 

How can you say SGADV is better than CP? It is only a matter of opinion. That is why threads like this are ridiculous. I have been to both and, in my head, have no idea how a person can say GADV is anywhere close to CP. I think CP is better in every way possible except they don't have a great woody like EL Toro. But that is only my opinion.

To me Great Adventure is noting more than SFMM's lesser known sister. Like Nikki Hilton to Paris Hilton.

 

If you are responding to a thread like this you need to be courteous of other opinions.

[Guest]

Gadv is better than Cp in my opinion and I'm not just saying that because it's closer. I went to CP and rode almost everything including Flats. Played mid way games ans soaked up the atmosfear. it just isn't a better park overall. Gadv is so much more interactive. Everytime you enter a new area it's just blows you away. When you walk into GK you hear the tribal music, riders screaming on Ka, and kids splashing in Splashwater Oasis. It's just an amazing place to be! The themed areas at Gadv is probably what took it away from CP. Though I do miss the buffet at the front of CP near Raptor!

[Tbcoasterfan]

See this is something like Ford vs. Chevy. You'll always have the Mustang fan boys say their car is better, and likewise with the chevy guys with the Camaro.

Me personally I love the atmosphere that Cedar Point has being on the water like it is, I like the fact that I can drive my boat over to Cedar Point, anchor it on the beach, and swim in front of Magnum. I will always consider KK a copy of TTD because, well it is (aside from the hill). As a car guy I very much like the drag racing theming that Dragster has over the Jungle theming at Kingda Ka. I also like that there's just a lap bar. On the other hand can Northern Ohio compete with New York City..... NO! lol

Personally if it were me I'd just look at what park haven't I been to recently or which one do I not go to often enough and choose that one this time.

[adeuce02]

I did say w.e decision u make will be a good one. I just dont understand how a person can they say they have seen kk theming a 100times thats what i dont understand compare to ttd which just has flags a couple signs about drag racing. But w.e place he goes is worth it

[sros1fan]

It is no contest CP is the best park in the world hands down. Yes i visit both parks regularly, but the only reason i got to Gradv is for Eltoro. Gradv is a dumpy park with lots of empty spaces and lots of riff raff from philly,NY,and NJ, with lots of line cutting going on as security seem scared to do anything about it. There is no way you can compare the ops from both parks as CPs ops actually run when they are checking trains while gradv's ops seem like they hate being there. Gradv doesnt have one good flat in the park which is why the lines for the coasters are so long and with all the stacking going on they force you to shell out the cash for a FP. No im not a CP fanboy as neither park is even in my top 5 parks that i have been too and i have been to every park in the US.

 

Here is a story that happened to me last year at CP. I got in line for TTD at 9:55 when the park closed at 10pm. The wind was blowing really hard and they could not launch any of the trains, so we waited with about 30 other guests for an hour to see if they would open the ride. Finally they announced that they would not open it but that the park would open Maverick for us to ride for an hour even though the park had closed an hour ago. Now that to me is what seperates CP from all other parks, which none of them would have done that.

[shepp]

It is no contest CP is the best park in the world hands down.... No im not a CP fanboy as neither park is even in my top 5 parks that i have been too and i have been to every park in the US.

 

Um, whichever.

[SuperMikeo]

EDIT: ^ Heh, you got to it first.

 

It is no contest CP is the best park in the world hands down...

 

[More of your post]

 

...No im not a CP fanboy as neither park is even in my top 5 parks that i have been too and i have been to every park in the US.

 

Sorry, I'm confused. You said CP is the best park in the world...and then said it wasn't in your top five?

 

I didn't notice a whole lotta riff raff during my times at Great Adventure, or not a whole lot more than usual at an amusement park. I hate humans too, but blame them, not the park.

 

And Great Adventure DOES have flats. Six of them.

 

Six Flats. More Flats, More Fun.

 

Here is what it comes down to for me: You can have El Toro and Nitro. Or you can have Maverick and MF. Go look at some coaster porn and see which duo gives you more blood-flow. Then choose accordingly. And if your El Toro induced erection lasts for more than 4 hours, please call your doctor.

[sros1fan]

^ According to the Golden Tickets it has been ranked #1 for the last 12 years. In my oppinion it does have the best rides but i rate parks by there over all charm. Here is my top 5 parks.

 

1. Kennywood

2.Knoebels

3. Dollywood

4. Holiday World

5. BGE

[SuperMikeo]

^ The Golden Ticket awards? They actually give awards out for finding golden tickets? I thought that going to Wonka's factory WAS the reward. Huh, I'm confused.

 

If I listened to what main-stream polls/awards told me, I would be led to believe that the only coaster better than The Beast is Magnum XL-200.

 

...And the snozberries really do taste like snozberries.

[shepp]

^ I'm sure the selection process is beyond reproach, but I've always found it a leetle odd that the Golden Ticket edition of Amusement Today is chockablock with self-congratulatory full-page ads placed by the honorees. Kinda reeks of possible conflict of interest...

 

Anyway, I wish the reasons behind the choices were as transparent as with Hawker's poll or even this thread. With all due deference to Knoebel's, a funky, fun place with a couple of top wood coasters and a pretty carousel, is it really "better" than Disneyland or IOA? (Or SFGAdv, for that matter.) Sentiment is fine, but pierogies can go only so far. Is Knoebel's Haunted Mansion, cheesy fun as it is, really "better" than DLR's Pirates of the Caribbean? By what criteria? Do we even know what proportion of the "panel of experts" has actually been, in the previous year, to all the parks they're voting on? (Edit: well, yeah, according to Amusement Today, over a third of the panel visit fewer than 10 parks a year, and three-quarters 20 or fewer, which provides a fairly underwhelming grounds for comparison.)

 

Just asking.

[Guest]

CPs stellar operations are a thing of the past, while their operation is still pretty good SFGAdvs operations have gotten to the point where they are OK. While CP might still have the edge, the difference isnt that big to the point where you should you plan your vacation around it. Ive done trips to both parks twice and as I said earlier am more inclined to go back to GADV because of El Toro. Plus the last time I was at CP Millennium Force, Dragster, and Maverick all opened late (on a regular sunny summer day) and Millennium Force/Wicked Twister both broke down while I was in line for them later in the day and TTD/Maverick broke down several times while I was in line for them (all on the same day).

[YoshiFan]

There is no way you can compare the ops from both parks as CPs ops actually run when they are checking trains while gradv's ops seem like they hate being there.

 

Nitro's ops were literally running tonight. Same with Superman ops on my last visit almost 2 weeks ago. with Nitro, 3 trains were running and the next train was on the lift hill before the train on the course got to the MCBR.

 

I have really been impressed with the ops this season, a lot even ask how my day is going and they are now almost all saying "enjoy your ride" when you get in line.

[sros1fan]

Well if all you can say is go to Gradv for Eltoro and Nitro it isnt worth the long trip to take the chance they will be open. I was at Gradv on opening day and Nitro KK and Eltoro were all down. Eltoro did open at like 3pm that day but the line was huge for it and they only had 1 train op that day. Tonight at gradv was their coasters after dark event and Eltoro, KK and runaway mine train were closed. Atleast CP tries to get rides back up if they have problems. A couple of years ago when i went to CP for coaster mania MF was down all day but they managed to get it opened for our night time ERT. Last year at Coaster celebration at gradv they cancelled our night ERT for no reason, even though they said it was due to weather which it was a nice night.

[YoshiFan]

Runaway Mine Train got stuck, it was open after that and for the whole night, I rode it at around 6:30 and later after 8:00

 

Kingda Ka opened a little before 8:30 and they were working on getting it open as soon as the rain stopped, others said El Toro opened around 8:40 but I was at Kingda Ka at that time.

[Gerstlauer1]

Hi

 

I am a coasterfreak from Denmark, and one of my biggest dreams is a trip to Cedar Point or Six Flags Great Adventure.

I have never been to any of the parks, so i wanted to know, wich one is the best?

 

 

- Kian

[DiveMachine]

As a Gadv fanbuy, I have to admit CP is ALOT better. CP is probably the most well rounded park on the planet, while Gadv has a HUGE lack of flats, water rides, and the right side of the park lacks any sort of themeing. Now with that being said...

 

Gadv's coasters are bada$$. IMO, CP has nothing on El Toro. Gadv also comes with one of the best 5 punches in the coaster world:

1.Kingda Ka

2.El Toro

3.Nitro

4.Green Lantern

5.Bizarro

 

But I still consider CP's collection better. Millie, Top Thrill Dragster, Maverick, Magnum, Mantis, Wicked Twister, Raptor, and Gemini are all great coasters. IMO, I think CP is the better park hands down

[Lenaapple1974]

Which is better. Hmmm.... Cedar Point. Don't get me wrong - I love Great Adventure. It is my home park. It has amazing coasters. BUT, they are mostly B&M's. (Which I personally love_) So, it will depend on what your coveted rides are. Millennium Force or Nitro? IMO, Nitro is better than Magnum, and SFGAdv does not have a giga coaster... KK OR TTD? TTD has lap bars, but KK is taller. Other than that... it is the standard B&M's over at Great Adventure. They do have Superman:UF and El Toro (OMG EL TORO!), but Cedar Point has more variety, so that is why I say CP.

[eltoro96]

Um yeah I would consider these parks crazy similar (the only one more similar to CP is SFMM). El Toro beats every ride at CP. I consider KK and TTD the same so don't really put those into consideration. Green Lantern is gonna be awesome and Mantis sucks so if you want a good standup go to Great Adventure. Personally, I hate MF and Nitro, but love Magnum. Raptor and Batman are both good. But like a lot of other people said, CP has way more variety and the rides are way more unique.

[Big-M]

CEDAR POINT!

 

I loved Great Adventure when I was there, but Cedar Point has much better variety. Another thing I would like to point out is that if the new Six Flags management runs all of their parks like SFMM (as seen in Robb's recent trip report) , then you probably want to avoid Six Flags parks altogether.