Jew Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) ^Granted this study was from 2011, but it appears it provides a 5% bump: http://www.sbnation.com/2011/1/19/1940438/home-field-advantage-sports-stats-data I think my biggest gripe (and why I much prefer college) is that all these new modern stadiums are not in any way, shape, or form designed for the common fan to do what you would expect at a sporting event: stand, cheer, high 5, etc. Basically, they've morphed from stadiums to broadway theaters with the focus being on premium seating. I enjoy the amenities, but I do also like not being 5 miles away from the action and among fans also having a good time when I can't afford those amenities. ^^I might have done that on purpose. Edited May 18, 2016 by Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 ^Yeah I'm with ya there, which I why I really like what they've done in Jacksonville. They added great amenities and premium seating locations (and yes freaking swimming pools) but it still feels like a football stadium. The amenities compliment and enhance the experience rather than distracting from it. That may have just been what was most affordable at the time instead of funding an entirely new venue but I'm glad they went the route they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 ^ Give it a few more years and I am sure the Jags will be asking for a new stadium or threatening to move... It is on my bucket list to check out the pools there and at the D-backs stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceBoarder Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Cool thread. Don't know how I missed it thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 ^Granted this study was from 2011, but it appears it provides a 5% bump: http://www.sbnation.com/2011/1/19/1940438/home-field-advantage-sports-stats-data I think my biggest gripe (and why I much prefer college) is that all these new modern stadiums are not in any way, shape, or form designed for the common fan to do what you would expect at a sporting event: stand, cheer, high 5, etc. Basically, they've morphed from stadiums to broadway theaters with the focus being on premium seating. I enjoy the amenities, but I do also like not being 5 miles away from the action and among fans also having a good time when I can't afford those amenities. ^^I might have done that on purpose. I totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Slight bump...As I said earlier, I did treat myself to the USC/Alabama game at Jerry World. There are no photos of said game because, well, it wasn't much of a game. But I did make a return trip to Rangers Ballpark, took the tour of the stadium, and sat inside the batters eye! So here are some more photos of Rangers Ballpark... Heading up to Seattle in a few weeks for USC/Washington and will possibly do the Safeco field tour as well, so expect more updates soon! Well, if USC wins of course. The press box. Very exciting, I know. The view from the press box. A lot of teams have been moving their press boxes to the corner to sell more premium seats, so this is probably a better view than most new stadiums The field level tunnel. Rangers Clubhouse As you walk from the clubhouse to the dugout, they have signs commemorating all their award winners. Motivation I suppose. The dugout! View from dugout. What was cool about this tour, is they still conducted it with players working out. A lot of teams would restrict the field if this was happening. Elvis Andrus took photos with fans. Everything was already set up for the game/players workout The post game interview area. Connected directly to clubhouse. View from inside the batters eye. The Rangers turned it into a private all you can eat club. Great value for the $90 we paid. Also visited the Rangers Hall of Fame. I guess this guy pitched a long time. History on the stadiums. And construction of said stadium. Well, that's awkward... everything is bigger in Texas. They were aggressively campaigning to get tax payers to pay for a new stadium, when this one is only 22 years old...Murica! Fireworks night while waiting for our Uber. Edited November 5, 2016 by Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freefallbestrideever Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Ooooh boy it's been years since I visited this thread! I guess they might as well build a new stadium so you can give us a review of it Must be bittersweet to a 49ers fan, you finally get a new stadium...........on the other hand many say it's soulless, it's 40 miles from SF and you give Harbaugh the boot so you go down the toilet... For some reason the upper deck still looks really high even after having all the suites on the other side, I wonder where the last row of the LA Coliseum would match up with that grandstand. Can't wait to see the Clink and Safeco? The home field advantage I hear is really just mostly from the refs/umps having a bias towards the home team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 ^Thankfully USC won, but I can say from experience that it was very loud inside Husky Stadium and likely contributed to the 3 or 4 false starts USC committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The fact that the Rangers (and Braves) are getting new stadiums is ridiculous. Great photos of that perfectly good, relatively modern ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 The fact that the Rangers (and Braves) are getting new stadiums is ridiculous. Great photos of that perfectly good, relatively modern ballpark. Agreed. I wouldn't be opposed to it if the ownership groups were paying out of their own pocket, but in both these cases the taxpayers are footing the bill. And if you read the news articles---not even close to good deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Yeah, that's why I like what Missouri's done. In KC, Kauffman and Arrowhead got some upgrades, but they're the same stadiums we've had since 1973. In STL, the Cardinals got a new stadium in 2006, replacing a really crappy 40-year-old stadium that never was any good. In exchange, we got a beautiful venue that pays homage to the golden age of baseball while also providing modern conveniences that people have come to expect. But when the Rams said they wanted a new place, when we had just given them one 20 years ago that's still perfectly fine, we said L.A. looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 ^Not exactly how it played out. St. Louis tried to give everything they could to keep the Rams, but there was no question they were leaving no matter what St. Louis gave them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 The feeling really was mutual. We made a good faith effort to draw up some plans for a new stadium, but the Rams were a huge flop from the city's perspective. The reason cities subsidize stadiums is that they attract visitors to the city who then stay in hotels and eat at restaurants (read: pay taxes to the city). The Rams never were a huge draw for visitors, so the city lost millions on the TransWorld Dome. The convention centre makes a fair profit, but the stadium never did. Hence why the offering from St. Louis was pretty weak--so much so that L.A. already began construction on the new stadium even before the Rams officially turned down St. Louis' offer. They were going to California and everyone knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 ^Construction actually just started last week because they needed FAA approval for the cranes since the site is so close to LAX. The construction prior to that was demolishing the horse racing track and rebuilding the casino. The city/state were ready to offer up $400 million for a new stadium in St. Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 ^ Okay, I guess I confused the demolition as part of the construction. But yeah, they asked for a stadium only as an excuse to get out of St. Louis. And we drew up plans only to give a show of effort. Neither side wanted to continue having the team in St. Louis. The stadium plans are still alive for the riverfront, just for a different kind of football. Honestly I think attendance would be better for an MLS franchise than for an NFL team. St. Louis is just that sort of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 MLS will be forgotten in 20 years. They are diluting the league by adding so many teams and not doing relegation. There's only so many hipsters in each market who think it's cool going to soccer matches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkFunk Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 MLS is definitely no great shakes, but it's also managed to survive for 23 years and easily beat the best days of the NASL. Unless interest in soccer completely goes away, the league isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 ^I'm certainly no expert, but I think the future of the league will be decided between 2019 and 2022 when the current CBA is up and their TV deal is up. Right now it's hot and the owners are probably making money from it being trendy and getting new teams to pay expansion fees, but I think the REAL test will be how big of a TV deal they get and if they can keep wages down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedarpointfangirl Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 The fact that the Rangers (and Braves) are getting new stadiums is ridiculous. Great photos of that perfectly good, relatively modern ballpark. Yes the park is pretty new, (Rangers) however with the brutal summers we have it should have been built with a roof in first place. 105 to 110 in the summer with field temps higher. It will make a for a better fan experience and I imagine would bring in other players such as pitchers who don't want to pitch for the Rangers in the brutal heat. The old stadium is staying put, it will be used as venue for entertainment and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 ^And it will only cost taxpayers $1 billion dollars after interest in the bonds is paid off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Finally another update! USC played at UDub this season, so naturally I had to visit a city I had not been to since I was a kid (Seattle). Long story short: it was a fantastic college atmosphere. Very friendly fans, with only one drunk douchebag behind us who was suspiciously quiet at the end of the game when I waved goodbye.... The exterior of the stadium blends in with all the building around it, with lots of bricks. Also a metro stop right at the stadium! Concourses were typical concourses... ...But the hyped up view was as advertised. The stadium is basically on the shore of Lake Washington, so rich alumni "tailgate" on their boats The stadium features mostly aluminum bench seating (meh), but that combined with the awnings over the top decks really trap in the noise. It was a very loud stadium. We got a C-130 flyover (Joint Base Lewis-McChord has a ton of them based there) Half Time show honoring the USS Arizona The video board was quite nice (the stadium was renovated between 2011-2013). But by that I mean, check out the score! Edited December 24, 2016 by Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 That's a great view, and it was a great game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 Been awhile since I've updated this... So here's the moda center in Portland. While in Seattle, we made the 2hr drive up to Portland and stumbled upon great seats to a trailblazers game Obligatory concourse photo. View from our seats ...which happened to be in a suite. Suite was huge with a bar area and... More banners than the clippers! Doors to suites were all open and unlocked, as opposed to ticket entry you usually see...so here's nikes absurdly nice suite The arena also has the obligatory "box seat" area Postgame tv show studio on the concourse Can't be in Portland without a beer themed restaurant FYI: bill Walton is the best/worst commentator on tv Upper concourse has a kids play area. Nice to fit that in. Restroom in the suite. Great amenity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cparkes92 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 The fact that the Rangers (and Braves) are getting new stadiums is ridiculous. Great photos of that perfectly good, relatively modern ballpark. Yes the park is pretty new, (Rangers) however with the brutal summers we have it should have been built with a roof in first place. 105 to 110 in the summer with field temps higher. It will make a for a better fan experience and I imagine would bring in other players such as pitchers who don't want to pitch for the Rangers in the brutal heat. The old stadium is staying put, it will be used as venue for entertainment and such. The Braves' stadium wasn't originally built for baseball. It was originally the Olympic stadium for the 1996 Olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 ^However, they designed it with the conversion to Baseball already planned for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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