BeemerBoy Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Oh basketball gods, please let the Celtics dispose of the most overhyped player in professional sports history tonight. "Most overhyped player in pro sports history?" I'm not so sure about that. Is he promoted like crazy by the league? Sure. Is it justified? Actually, I still say yes. The guy is the real deal. Honestly, I don't think he's anymore overhyped than Wade or Kobe. The problem is that most people look at the Cavs' playoff failure and base their opinion on James off of that. Truthfully, that's a bit unfair. Strangely enough, I'm gonna defend King James here. For starters, the man is all class, even in defeat, and I tip my hat to that (and don't get me started on how he "walked out on Dwight Howard" after losing last year. He did NOTHING wrong). Now for the meat of the argument. In the last 30 years, only 8 different teams have won the NBA Championship (30 frickin' years and 8 Teams!!. Of those teams, every single one of them had a solid "number two guy" to back up their superstar, or a strong supporting cast.... 80's Celtics: Bird/take your pick 80's Lakers: Magic/take your pic 80's Pistons: Isiah/solid supporting crew all around Philly: Moses/Doc/Cheeks Chicago: MJ/Pippen San Antonio: Timmy/Parker/Ginobili Miami: Wade/closer to his prime Shaq/a group of experienced veterans hungry for a title Houston: The dream/Horry/Cassell/Thorpe 2004 Pistons: Billups/Prince/Rip/Wallace/Wallace 2000s Lakers: Kobe/Shaq/Gasol/Fisher/Kardashian/etc. 2008 Celts: KG/Allen/Truth/Rondo Cavs: Lebron James/????? An older Shaq? Mo Williams? Jamison? Anderson Varejao? Please. The fact of the matter is that Lebron can dominate a regular season, compile the stats, and feel like he has to carry this team.....which he does. Come playoff time, he's tired, and better TEAMS will always win out. It's pretty simple really, and none of it is really Bron's fault. The only way he'll win is when he's surrounded by quality talent. He doesn't necessarily need a Pippen to help carry the load, but two or three solid role players who'll let him learn how to sacrifice some numbers in preparation for the long haul of the playoffs. Even God would struggle with the team he has right now. Basically, what I'm getting at is, if/when he gets a ring, does it then, and only then, begin justify the hype? I say it shouldn't matter because of the above argument. I like Lebron. Talent, class (as of right now - we all know how Tiger turned out), personality, and a pretty strong will to win. I don't mind a league "overhyping" a player like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjaco Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 LeBron and the Cavs are like Jordan and the Bulls in the late eighties. Until Pippen was drafted, and Grant/Cartwright/Paxson arrived, he didn't have anyone except Charles Oakley to depend on. That poor franchise is a mess. Ferry really screwed the pooch with all the deals to bring in over paid vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I personally don't like Lebron James from what I see of him. But that aside, he is an amazing talent. Do I wish he worked some more basketball fundmentals into his game? Absolutely. But he is a beast of an athlete. It would be a shame for Cleveland to lose him, because without him on that roster, they will immediately turn into one of the bottom 3 franchises in the NBA again. I am a Bulls fan, and wouldn't mind the Central thinning out, but I really would feel for the Cleveland fans if he does decide to leave. I would actually kind of feel even worse for them if he decides to hop to Chicago, as weird as that might sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Give the Lakers a week off and you are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neogreeneyez Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 I was never a fan of Ron Artest... Still not a fan. Amazing shot though. I'm hoping for a miracle for the suns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatdaddy Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Is anyone else looking forward to a retro Celtics/Lakers series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 ^ Yes, yes I am. A little payback for 2008. Lakers in 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelizeIt Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I hope Wes has a bet going on with his buddies again, so that we can see the return of his avatar wearing a Celtics jersey! Celtics in six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCTOR DOOM!!! Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Lebron threw that series! Has anyone heard the rumor about DeLonte West had "relations" with Lebrons mom?! Doctor "Cavs got SUPER PWNED!!!" Doom P.S. Lakers in 7!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Bad news for Celtics fans, Mamba still hasn't had a "Mamba type" game. Bad news for Lakers fans, if more than one Celtic shows up for a game, Lakers lose. I'm still saying Lakers in 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMountainMan Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Paul punched the ref in the face on accident. Doesn't get much better than that! Lakers have this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack44 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I've been a huge fan of the Lakers since the "glory" days of ten years ago (I even have a personalized gold jersey with my last name on it), but I didn't pay very much attention to the last time the Lakers and Celtics duked it out in June. I'm predicting it'll be the Lakers in seven, both teams have really capable, even underrated players, and whatever's left of this series is sure to be a spectacle for any b-ball fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Whoever wins game 5 will win this series. I don't think L.A. could beat the Celtics two straight times, even if they are at home. If the Lakers want this series, they need to come out from wire-to-wire tomorrow and dominate and close it out in L.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkman25 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Joe Crawford is officiating game 5. I hate Joe Crawford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Let's face it, the Celtics are deep. The Lakers have Kobe Bryant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808Freq Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I think what really matters, is that the Celts have ROOOOONNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808Freq Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 The guy rebuilds a team in less than two years.. He gets a team that was SUPPOSED TO MISS THE PLAYOFFS deep into the Western Conference Finals. You know what happens when you own an NBA team that makes it deep into the playoffs? You make boatloads of EXTRA money. So when the end of the year comes around, that GM that built this great team for you deserves a payCUT? ? ? WHAT THE FU&K!?!?!?!? So guess what.. Kerr is gone. Amare is gone. Frye is gone. What do you have now, you cheap piece of shit? First, not signing JJ. Second, selling Rondo for 200,000 in cold hard cash. Third, dumping Kurt to the Sonics for NOTHING, but don't forget you threw in two 1st round draft picks just to make the deal extra sweet for Seattle. Later this week, arguably the league's best talent evaluator will jump ship as well because of the way you run your operation. Honestly, I don't know how you made enough money to purchase the Suns in the first place. However, I am happy to hear that you have recently lost a great deal of it due to the down market in PHX. Here's to hoping you loose every dime you have and are forced to sell the team. Burn in hell, Suns Fans PS. Nice PR move claiming that the Suns Uniform change on May 5th was a protest of a law that the overwhelming majority of the people that go to your games support. Hmm, but that's weird, the Suns announced they were going to wear them initially /before/ the law was passed in celebration of Cinco De Mayo(the stupidest 'holiday' ever).. then re-announced that they going to be worn in protest. *sighs* Douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) mmmmkay. EDIT: There's an NBA thread to vent in. Edited June 17, 2010 by BeemerBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808Freq Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Hey, it's random And I think people in and around the PHX area will know a little bit about what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Linn Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I hate how people who hate sports are so disrespectful when it's actually them that are in the wrong for not liking sports to begin with. Anyway, Sarver is precisely why I'm no longer a Suns fan. He ruined any chance they had of winning a championship (they should have at least 1) because he was treating the team as an investment and could care less about results (Donald Sterling comes to mind). It's disgraceful how he's traded so many players and 1st rounders for cash, especially the Deng and Rondo picks. Their 04-05 team was amazing as constructed, but he blew it apart before they could even do anything together. I really hated dumping Q Richardson at the time. I had enough of that and moved on from the NBA altogether. Not only was my favorite team in shambles, but the league itself is corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808Freq Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 ^ +1 for league corruption. Can't wait till Stern & Stu quit/retire/get fired/whatever Tho I'm not sure you can blame Deng on Sarver, as he took control of Suns after Deng was drafted and traded. He may have had some insight to the move, but it wasn't as much of a 'dump' as the other circumstances because they got a late first guy (never made it) and another 1st round pick for him. *Edit* Sorry if this is misplaced, btw. I did look for an NBA thread, but there seems to only be a NBA Playoff thread, and I figured I'd get yelled at for the same thing if I went off topic on the Laker/Celts talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DATman Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I hate how people who hate sports are so disrespectful when it's actually them that are in the wrong for not liking sports to begin with. It's wrong for people to not like sports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 mmmmkay. EDIT: There's an NBA thread to vent in. And that's where it's now. PS: The worst NBA owner is Donald Sterling. Not even a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808Freq Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Yeah, as bad as I badmouth Sarver. Sterling is king of cheap. He's almost as bad as whoever owns the Pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Linn Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I hate how people who hate sports are so disrespectful when it's actually them that are in the wrong for not liking sports to begin with. It's wrong for people to not like sports? Wrong and completely incomprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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