Cygnus12 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 It's been quite some time since I've built a No Limits coaster. My last upload to Coaster Crazy was on 09/21/2007 with a wooden track called Seedy Point Roller. My last steel track was uploaded on 04/03/2005! In lieu of not building a steel coaster for years now, I decided to build New Age Retro Looper. Let's say that Arrow Dynamics never went out of business; how would a 2008 Arrow megalooper look? That's what I tried to do with this track. I'm still going around and smoothing different sections out, but the layout is pretty much set. I'm thinking about switching out a corkscrew with a 'cutback' however. Going up the lift and coming off the block brake. A tight but incredibly tall Arrow style loop. Interlocking corkscrews. They tried it on Drachen Fire! A bowtie, no megalooper is complete without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Drool........Drool.............. arrowfanman would've wet his pants or passed out! Modern look and great layout IMO. Hope to see more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Man this makes me wish Arrow was still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPDUDE Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 ^Likewise. Looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus12 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 I fixed up some areas, worked on terrain a little and took out the final corkscrew. Here's the new sections: In place of the corkscrew is a turn that heads under the first corkscrew. The train dives into a ravine, into a turn... ...and then heads into a cutback over a section of track that leads from the station to the lift. I still have some more track bending to do before I start support building again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Transitions look pretty smooth...can't wait to see how they ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPDUDE Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 The cutback looks a little low/streched out. Looks like it either has hangtime, which is bad for this sort of element in my opinion, or has bad vetrical and/or latreal G forces at the entrance to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus12 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 The Gs are fine but there is a bit of hangtime. I'll play around with it and see what I can do. It has to be sort of low though since I don't have a whole lot of speed at that point, which is why I made the track dip down into a ravine before going into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPDUDE Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I think a better solution would be to just make it have less width, not more height. that way there's no hangtime and realistic Gs, right now it looks completely streched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus12 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 Hows this? I made the width smaller and raised it a bit. To get enough speed I raised the brake block a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianGuy Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 It looks very good as far as I can tell but my only remark is that lift hill looks empty, I suggest adding more supports to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I can't wait to see how this rides. The transitions do look very smooth for a Arrow. We all know how old Arrow Mega Looper's transitions are today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPDUDE Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 The new cutback looks MUCH better, however: 1) I can't help b ut wonder by looking at it if the vertical G forces at the bottom aren't too high or if it pulls some odd hang-like Gs somewhere. does it? 2) I knwonothing about engineering but aren't the supports on the wrong side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekoma Fan Boy Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 The side the supports are on doesnt matter, as long as they can support the weight and don't get too close to the track. there is no 'right' or 'wrong' side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus12 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 The supports for an Arrow cutback are on that side. I used the cutback (the only cutback ever made I think) on Drachen Fire as reference. history.amusement-parks.com/Drachen%20Fire/drachenfire2.jpg The vertical Gs in the cutback are: Entrance: +3.5 Top: +0.6 Exit: +2.5 I have no idea if that's the way it should be but it seems fine I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schrubber Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 There`s another cutback in Space Mountain @Disneyland Paris. Your coaster looks great so far. Can`t wait to try it! Greetings schrubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus12 Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 ^ I guess that's what the 'tongue' inversion is as listed by RCDB; Vekoma's version of a cutback. Anyway I have a small update after I stopped working on it for about a week. I'm happy with the trackwork and are moving onto supports. I modified the lift supports to start off. I'll fix them up a bit, don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Ohhh! Ahhh! Very cool! I like it; the whole thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastb2 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 One of your cross beams is poking out of one of the first main supports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus12 Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 I know, one of the supports connecting the track is also missing. Edit: fixed! 11/20/08 Update Another one photo update. I'm slowly working on the supports; I'm up to the first loop so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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