niiicolaaah Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 We just visited the park this past weekend, and did not encounter the "bad staff" you guys did. I only heard two employees with an accent and most were very friendly and helpful. I agree that the ticket prices are too high and there is not enough to do to get your money's worth. We were in the park for 2 hours and rode everything (Slippery When Wet and Maximum RPM were closed), but didn't want to leave because we didn't get our money's worth, so we rode the dark ride 3 times, Led Zeppelin 3 times (oh man is that pre-show painful after the first time you watch it), saw a couple shows, and played in the Punk Pit and the ball throwing room thingy. I liked the park simply for the dark ride (I have a weird love of dark rides and that song also, as well as the smell of incense so it just did it for me) and really hope they are able to stick it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 The impression I get is this park is trying to be the Disneyland of Rock'n'Roll and be a real destination park but it doesn't have the chops, the La Ronde of Rock'n'Roll maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisFL Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 IMO they should have built this park in Las Vegas...it would have fit much better there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 The impression I get is this park is trying to be the Disneyland of Rock'n'Roll and be a real destination park but it doesn't have the chops, the La Ronde of Rock'n'Roll maybe. I'd say it's more like the DCA of rock and roll--a nice-enough start, but they need to show steady improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 I'd say it's more like the DCA of rock and roll--a nice-enough start, but they need to show steady improvement. Yeah, that's actually a very good comparison. I like DCA, always have...but my feeling is "Wow, this is a nice place to spend a couple of hours...and it could be REALLY nice once it fills in a bit more." I felt the same about Hard Rock Park. I liked what was there, but the park didn't feel "complete." Islands of Adventure is a good example of a park that felt "complete" on opening day. Hard Rock just really lacked something. Me thinks they should have saved the money that was spent on RPM and put it towards something else - like a good water ride or perhaps theming the Mine Train. Here's the exact same mine train well themed: That's what Eagles should have looked like. --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Johnson Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 ^ You can really see a difference, unless you consider weeds to be theming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinacaniac Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 While I agree the non-existant theming is lack luster for Eagles at HRP, I am not really sure what they could add to it to theme it to that level while keeping the Eagles connection. If they changed the name, the possibilities are probably much greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 While I agree the non-existant theming is lack luster for Eagles at HRP, I am not really sure what they could add to it to theme it to that level while keeping the Eagles connection. If they changed the name, the possibilities are probably much greater. They could make it an indoor coaster with synchronized music and a lot of birds flying by like Vogel Rok at Efteling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 ^^I think the big problem is using "Life in the Fast Lane." To me, a song about living the fast life in SoCal doesn't go with a Vekoma mine train. Originally, this ride was to be called "Midnight Rider," and if they'd used a haunted western ghost town as a theme, it might've worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinacaniac Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 The Midnight Rider name could have had more possibilities with the cool country section, kind of like you said Chuck, with a ghost town theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 ^^I think the big problem is using "Life in the Fast Lane." To me, a song about living the fast life in SoCal doesn't go with a Vekoma mine train. Originally, this ride was to be called "Midnight Rider," and if they'd used a haunted western ghost town as a theme, it might've worked. I agree with that statement 100%. When I think Life in the Fast Lane I think of a Intamin Launch coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekRx Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I felt the same about Hard Rock Park. I liked what was there, but the park didn't feel "complete." Islands of Adventure is a good example of a park that felt "complete" on opening day. Hard Rock just really lacked something. Me thinks they should have saved the money that was spent on RPM and put it towards something else - like a good water ride or perhaps theming the Mine Train. Agree completely. HRP seemed very similar to IOA, even with similar rides (Led Zeppelin vs Hulk, Nights in White Satin vs Cat in the Hat, kiddie roller skater, suspended coaster, kids play area, stunt show, lake and lake show, nice theming, giant merch shop, etc). I think HRP may even have more flat rides and shows, but the biggest thing that kept HRP from seeming complete is the lack of water rides. When IOA opened it had 3 water rides and water play areas in Toon Lagoon and Camp Jurassic, Hard Rock Park only has Reggae Falls and the now closed Slippery When Wet cannons. With the lack of shade in the park and the humidity, keeping cool is a big need. Hopefully they can stay opened long enough to throw in some water rides, or even a little waterpark in the next couple of years. I know IOA struggled to get its attendance figures the first couple of years, luckily they could rely on their sister park, City Walk, hotels, and offering discounts to draw in the people. Hopefully HRP can survive (and get those closed coasters reopened so I can get my other credits!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 The utter lack of water rides is quite odd. What I think is even odder is that this park does not have a night time special. A lot of people go to Myrtle Beach for the beach. However, since HRP is a couple of miles from the beach I would think families might be more likely to consider a night time trip to the park after leaving the beach if the price was lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffon Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I'm not real clear on the status of Maximum RPM. Several people have said it has not been open at all during their visit, but it's not really listed as closed on their website. Anyone know about what percentage of time it's open and running, or should it just be crossed off the list of expectations before I even go down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekRx Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 ^^Right. Go to places like Wildwood or Ocean City and you'll find during the morning and afternoon the piers are dead and it leaves you thinking the place should be filing for bankruptcy soon. After 5pm the places start getting a little busier, and by 8 it's packed. Even the Pavilion was like that. With an after 5 admission price of like $25, HRP would see a lot more attendance in the evening, and just overall more people in the park period. Parks like Dorney, Carowinds, and Kings Dominion offer evening admission, and others like Dollywood and Hershey offer a deal where if you buy your ticket for the following day, they let you in that evening for free. Hard Rock Park just needs to get it out of their heads that they're a destination park right now, they need to lower their prices to around $35-40, offer the deals that these other competing parks are, and not be charging such ridiculous prices for their merchandise ($8 for a pin, $20 for a t-shirt, and the same large gift shop at every ride exit.) If you can't get people into the park, they can't spend any money in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 HRP can fix all their problems with one word.... AQUATRAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccoasterfan Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Maximum RPM will be down probably for the rest of the season. They are having technical problems from what my sources inside tell me. I cannot disclose any more than that or I can get the person fired. But Slippery When Wet will reopen this weekend. The people who painted the ride used the wong primer or something. And the brakes were getting all rusted from the water bc a seal wasnt right. So thats why the brkes were so rough. So this week they are fixing all these small problems on it and hopefully have it up and running again with the water on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiFan Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Screamscape has information on Maximum RPM being closed. If it is true then it's a real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Maximum RPM will be down probably for the rest of the season. They are having technical problems from what my sources inside tell me. I cannot disclose any more than that or I can get the person fired. But Slippery When Wet will reopen this weekend. The people who painted the ride used the wong primer or something. And the brakes were getting all rusted from the water bc a seal wasnt right. So thats why the brkes were so rough. So this week they are fixing all these small problems on it and hopefully have it up and running again with the water on Friday. How in the hell can the paint primer be a cause for a ride to have rusty brakes??? Maybe im reading it wrong but alot of parks have chipping paint coasters and they run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgodsey Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 ^^ It is indeed true. Premier has refused to help HRP since their payment is over 90 days past due. I think the fat lady is warming up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccoasterfan Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Maximum RPM will be down probably for the rest of the season. They are having technical problems from what my sources inside tell me. I cannot disclose any more than that or I can get the person fired. But Slippery When Wet will reopen this weekend. The people who painted the ride used the wong primer or something. And the brakes were getting all rusted from the water bc a seal wasnt right. So thats why the brkes were so rough. So this week they are fixing all these small problems on it and hopefully have it up and running again with the water on Friday. How in the hell can the paint primer be a cause for a ride to have rusty brakes??? Maybe im reading it wrong but alot of parks have chipping paint coasters and they run. Ok I dont exactly understand it but the brakes and paint and water all together aint mixing. So they are fixing theses things. And Maximum RPM has been open a lto over the month of june, July, and August. But now it is not true that they are locked out of the ride. And they have paid for the ride. The problem is in a computer program and getting the wheel to attach at the top right. They had some cars that weren't working so started the problem. And also another reason I know they aren't locked out is bc max was testing yesterday when I went by the park. They are finishing getting everything set back up and tryng to have Slippery up the weekend with water. oh and there will be a halloween event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 If they do decide to have a halloween event it will not do good. i mean they plan on advertising it 3 days before it starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalize Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I made my trip to the park a few weeks ago (before all these ride closures and what not). The park was expensive, but all in all I thought it was decent. I don't think the location is that bad at all. It was 5 minutes from my hotel, the majority of tourists in the area have cars and many of them will drive out of their way to go to attractions like Broadway at the Beach. I think with the proper advertising this place could bring in larger crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccoasterfan Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Maximum RPM has been testing this week. So they are not locked out of the system. They had tried to load too many cars on the wheel. They had a total of 3 cars on at once. One being detached at top, one being on side and one loading on bottom. The weight was too much and tilted the wheel again. That is what all this is about and now the wheel is not being cooperative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 ^well, isnt it DESIGNED to have 3 cars on it at all times? I'm not buying that story and if it is true then that says alot about alot of things lol. Jarvis" RPM is sinking" Morant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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