deguy123 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) June can't come soon enough! Edited March 12, 2014 by SharkTums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Thanks a lot for the answers, bunnyworker and KBrylczyk!! About the removed piece of support. Apparently it was a bit out of shape, so that it was sent back to Mack to be tweaked slightly to fit properly. It will be back next week to be installed properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 About the removed piece of support.Apparently it was a bit out of shape, so that it was sent back to Mack to be tweaked slightly to fit properly. It will be back next week to be installed properly. Good thing the Mack factory is pretty close to Liseberg. Imagine if the ride was built in the US, then it would have had to be sent by air, probably costing around 50 000 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 ^ It will still take some hours to drive it down to southern Germany. Wonder if it fit in the Mac van that have been cursing around Liseberg for the past few months, or if something heavier was required. Wonder if the fixed support will arrive together with the train that is due to arrive next week. Also fresh from the official blog, the fixed Lisebergbanan support!! The Lisebergbanan support have been fixed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The Zero-g is done and they are now working on the second half of the Pretzel Loop, it's really not much left at this point. The steelwork for ride will definitely be completed next week. Can't wait to see this it do some test-runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I wonder how the zero g looks (if it will be like B&M's recent ones or the older faster ones) It's their first one, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 To me, the rolls on Blue Fire are zero-g rolls. So I won't say its a first for Mack. Here is the one on Helix: https://www.facebook.com/ProjektHelixLiseberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 ^I've never been on blue fire but I assumed from their shape that they were more like corkscrews or something but yeah, if they do provide zero G, and are essentially rolls, I guess they can be considered that. And thanks for the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 ^ I would say that the "corkscrews" on blue fire is somewhere in between what is considered a Corkscrew and a Zero-g roll. Same thing with those on Helix, especially the one after the first launch. There isn't much lateral motion between the entrance and exit, but it's still more than what a Zero-g has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Blog update + other A new update on the blog have been posted, all about the station itself. Not many new interesting pictures in general, but a nice drawing on how it all will look from above. The main queue area will be a complete maze of paths going everywhere in several levels, so it will be really hard to tell how long it's left and where you are in the queue compared to all the other people in the building. Green = maintenance Red = platform (entrance via the wide staircase, chicken-exit on the narrower one) Blue = train area, trains goes from bottom left to top right Area with a thick grey border = main queue area Markings for the queue entrance (bottom arrow) and quick-pass entrance (right arrow) The progress so far (if they get the piece in place which it looks like they are going to lift soon. Very little left to do now Fresh of the tower cam And a final one from the mountain cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ap0ptosis Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Another picture from the blog post. This is part of the area where the "maze" will be. The triangle in the ceiling will be covered with glass to let the light in. The hole in the wall is a door (for the express pass) which gives a good sense of scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Small update with new pictures Did a drive-by picture update at the park earlier today. The pretzel still look pretty small when standing outside the park, I bet that it looks massive once inside, also the top-hat looks tiny at certain angles, not much bigger than the one on Kanonen, but that's also just the perspective. Got another panorama for you to enjoy, so don't miss it, but also some more general images. Enjoy!! Panorama.zip Massive panorama, download, unzip and enjoy!! First stop, staging area, there isn't much here at all, 3 pieces of track and some supports See, 1 piece second piece in the background and last one, this really shows the progress that have been done. Not much left until RCS heads for the next project There aren't that many pieces that have to be installed for the layout to be completed. The final airtime hill, the first half loop of the Pretzel and the top of the exit of the pretzel, that's it!! Working hard on the airtime hill, note the lack of Sky-lift (no space for one) so that they are crawling on top of the track to get to the bolts Delicious curves before the second launch Completed Zero-g roll Helix really gives the impression that it's just a mess of track on the side of the hill now Preparing the second to last piece of the airtime hill Up on the hill from where the Panorama was taken, this part was installed pretty recently, but they have already prepared the footers Overview A pretty fresh web-cam image from the tower cam. It looks like they have swapped the cranes to get better reach, just once piece on it to go now, but that's for Monday Until next update!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 You're right, it does look like a mess of track. Sweet! I like how that big airtime hill after the top hat stands out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lond Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Even more photos from today's drive-by. /// Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon8899 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Now less than three months until riding Helix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagom Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I really love the updates Loefet! And lond, your pictures are awesome! Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thank you!! They put in the final piece for the air-time hill just now, and it looks like they are now going for the top of the second half of the Pretzel next. Track completion is scheduled on Wednesday, which means that the piece that was sent back to Mack will have to be delivered before then. Also the trains are only a week away now, can't wait to see them Another piece in place!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I've completely lost track of the layout of this beast. More and more track is rising. Looks amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Green Fire - The ride that didn't happen Two renderings of the coaster known as Green Fire popped up on the Helix Blog just now!! These two renderings shows the result of the first coaster that Liseberg started to co-design together with Mack in 2010. But in 2011 they decided against going forward with it due to three reasons: 1: The coaster would dominate the mountain, at 83 meters tall then it might have ended up as a coaster with a park around it, instead of a park with a coaster in it, not the best idea for a small inner-city park. 2: Green Fire didn't fully utilize the mountain, in the same way that Lisebergbanan and Helix do. The mountain sort of worked against this design, and big parts of it would have ended up as a forest of supports, not a pleasant sight. I mean the top-hat is bad enough, but way more than that, absolutely awful!! 3: Even if the Mack Mega coaster design is one of the quietest coaster type there is. The massive scale of this design would make people scream so it would have received loads of complaints from people around the park. Not something that Liseberg wants. So during 2011 they started over (which is why Helix is delayed one year compared to when it was supposed to open) and the new design would use the following guidelines: close to the ground, as long as possible and include a great variation of elements. And the result was Helix!! Source: http://projekthelix.se/banan-som-inte-blev/ Massive!! I mean, it would have been the tallest coaster in Europe by a good margin, and also been well within the top 10 in the world. Helix is way more bang for the buck Edited March 17, 2014 by Loefet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon8899 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Looks like a Mega-Coaster in the first part which turns into a multi-looper in its second part - would love to see such a combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCT3Bross Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 That actually doesn't look bad. It doesn't fit in the park if you ask me, not talking about size but a terrain coaster looks better if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olov Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Edit: Loefet beat me to it Personally, yes I do think Helix is a better choice for Liseberg and Green Fire would have looked intrusive on the park. But damn it would have been nice with a big American style roller coaster in the Scandinavian area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 ^ Thanks for the full translation of the blog-post, I started with the images to get them on here ASAP, before starting with the text. I do like the idea, the height of the thing is really tempting, but it looks a lot more like a "parking-lot" coaster that have been put on the side of a mountain. But who knows, if they have these kinds of ideas now, then who know what we might end up with at the area south of the main park, that is not destined to be an indoor/waterpark or Hotel in the future Also one of the big things with Helix is that there are still a load of space on the southern end of the mountain, which could fit a nice Mack spinner or something like that. EDIT: ^ Why did you delete it? I only focused on the essential bits instead of the whole post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olov Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Well I thought you made a good translation and it would have been a bit repetitive with two translations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ap0ptosis Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Guys! Guys! I solved the screaming problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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