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P. 288: New B&M Dive Machine Announced!

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Looks like a great ride placed in a great location. Hope it's a hit with the GP.

 

Nah, they're just going to b*tch and moan about how unsafe it is with the chains and how Windseekers are better.

 

 

I'm pretty sure most people in Texas, aside from theme park fanatics don't even know what a Windseeker is unless they've been to a Cedar Fair park in the past year or 2.

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Last Sunday was my first time having visited Fiesta Texas. Right away I was struck by how nice all the scenery was even though it could all use some paint, how insane SKC was, how phenomenal Sky Screamer was, and also got credits for Pandemonium, Poltergeist, and Goliath all before lunch. We were gearing up to do Scream! which I was really excited for because most S&S towers I'd ridden were only Super Shots or Turbo Drops but Scream! seemed to do both in the same ride. Also, the log flume which I loved how it was situated in the park... but first, we wanted to do the train ride so we could take some pictures.

 

Upon pulling out of the station, I was assaulted with the most ghastly and unimaginable nails-on-a-chalkboard screeching I had ever heard. I mean, there is squeaky and then there is ear-piercingly godawful, and this was most certainly the latter. To my utter dismay, the screeching was incessant and I thought I was going to cry when we went into the quarry tunnel and it got worse. Eventually though, me and my friends were off, and joking about how SFFT could stand to invest in some grease for the rails. We made our way to Crackaxle Canyon. I insisted on doing Road Runner Express first, but Rattler was more important to the rest of my party.

 

Rattler... this ride is going to haunt me to the end of my days.

 

 

The fact that I had to wait 30 minutes for an RCCA creation already had me anxious. The squeal of the track as the cars lazily made their way around the final turnaround was bringing back horrible thoughts of my most recent encounter with the train, but then came the end of the queue where it was so illustriously spelled out to me that unlike every other ride we had ridden today, Rattler had assigned seating. Well, at that point I started praying to the coaster gods that they would put me up in the front half. I didn't need the front seat. Just please, anything but the back. And so the coaster gods heard my pleas... and ignored them as I took my seat at the back of the last car on the right. Now I am just praying this is like Mean Streak or Hurler, or some other coaster I thought was going to be the worst coaster experience of my life that, while they were bad, did not leave me crying. Rattler, as you are all no doubt aware, provides no such mercy.

 

I was already bracing with my hands clasping the bar in front of me, hoping to whatever god could hear me that I was going to come out of this alive. As the car jackhammered its way out of the station, my heart followed in time. As the track curved downward to the lift hill, the train grew more violent, and screeched like a banshee in my ears. As we hit the chain, I turned to one of my friends and asked him why he wanted to ride this so bad. I've never been more terrified of a single roller coaster, while on the roller coaster, in my entire life. He assured me it would be fine. Then came the drop. I felt like I was being shaken up like a can of paint at Home Depot as it bottomed out and swung us up into the large diving helix. The drop downward had the rails screeching so high and loud I thought my eardrums were going to burst. Wasn't there supposed to be topper track on this ride? Where is the topper track?! All I could feel was pain! Then we went up into the triple helix.

 

Rattler's triple helix is the worst roller coaster element that ever existed.

 

The jackhammering was awful, the repetition was ungodly, and the screeching of the rails had become so bad I had to cover my ears which made the jackhammering worse as, being on the right side of the train, my body was being thrown to the right, toward the supports, which just made it all the more unnerving. When it finally spit us out onto the MCRB, my friend noticed a camera. I flipped it the bird so fast I didn't even think of the consequences until we dropped out into the quarry tunnel where, again, I had to put my hands over my ears just to make the excruciatingly awful screeching bearable. Finally, we were spit out once more into the flyby and final turnaround into the break where all I could say was "make it stop! for the love of god, someone make it stop!" and when it did, I was crying. This ride was so bad, so painful, so excruciating, it made me cry. I honestly don't know why I didn't punch the ride operator getting off. As it stands, this coaster is only useful as a US Government-sanctioned interrogation device or as firewood, and if RMC doesn't convert it, I suggest one of those two methods be put in place immediately.

 

 

It was pushing 100 by then, I had a splitting headache from the ride (and there was no OTSR! How is that possible?!), so we called it a day at 3 PM. I hope to go back one day to reclaim the credits I lost to the Rattler, but who knows... it's a beautiful park and SKC is phenomenal, but SFFT, if you don't remodel that monstrosity you call a roller coaster soon, you better burn it to the ground and use the terrain for something better. And for the love of Pete, invest in some paint for your older rides and buildings, and some oil for anything with wheels that doesn't have a steel track!

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^From what I've heard, the front row is an absolute must on Rattler. That's probably the only reason I got some marginal, Mean Streak-level enjoyment out of the ride (and yes, I lucked out and was assigned the front without any pleading and begging).

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I ride Rattler once a year on my first visit.

I queue for the front seat. They aren't assigned seats (at least not when I've been there), they just have an attendant counting how many people go in to the seat lanes and shutting off the line when it's full. It's not uncommon to see a 2-3 train wait for the front.

It's possible they've changed the policy since I was there last month, though.

 

Anyway, I thought it was actually running much smoother this year, mainly because of the topper track on the horseshoe cliff turn. It used to have some naaaaaaasty lateral jackhammering there in addition to the regular jackhammering.

 

There needs to be an Iron Horse makeover on it. Bigtime.

 

As I read the description of your ride on Rattler, I thought, "wow, that's how I felt on Son of Beast!" (except for the dreading it going up the lift... I was actually looking forward to SOB until about halfway down the first drop)

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I was at SFFT 2 weeks ago and they were assigning seats on Rattler. I must say that the coaster sucked a$$ on so many levels. It now is dead last on my coaster list and I will never ride it again unless it gets the NTAG treatment. ...On a positive note, I enjoyed the rest of the coasters in the park.

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I will say this once... and leave at that... take it how you want it...

RATTLER 2013!!! NTAG Who?... Just wait.

 

That really wouldn't be that surprising going by the success of NTAG. The rumors pretty much immediately started up about Rattler and RMC as soon as NTAG opened.

 

They really could do some amazing things with the available terrain.

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Pay attention to that article about where RMC is trying to take their rides... then apply to Rattler 2013...

 

"According to Rocky Mountain, “We will be building cars we think will be revolutionary for the industry.” They go on to state that the combination of their new track and cars will be able to allow a wooden coasters to perform inversions, a feat no one has tried since Son of Beast at Kings Island."

 

Based on what we've seen so far from the SDC installation, I don't see that ride having inversions. Thus by process of elimination, I am hard pressed to believe that Rattler will be the ride to take on this feat.

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My vote goes for them squeezing in the dive off the cliff post-MCBR and a loop that leads straight into the quarry tunnel. Get themselves the inversion 'record' and a one-of-a-kind ride in the entire world! [/dream]

 

But in all reality, from IAAPA we know that RMS is doing an original project (SDC) and another full Iron Horse makeover for 2013. And I would imagine that Six Flags is holding the reigns to that other project considering how well NTAG did. So now it's just a waiting game to see which park is getting it...

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Pay attention to that article about where RMC is trying to take their rides... then apply to Rattler 2013...

 

"According to Rocky Mountain, “We will be building cars we think will be revolutionary for the industry.” They go on to state that the combination of their new track and cars will be able to allow a wooden coasters to perform inversions, a feat no one has tried since Son of Beast at Kings Island."

 

Based on what we've seen so far from the SDC installation, I don't see that ride having inversions. Thus by process of elimination, I am hard pressed to believe that Rattler will be the ride to take on this feat.

 

I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

Looking at the rest of your post, I think the phrase you meant is "inclined to believe."

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OK, let's dream a bit, shall we?

 

Iron Horse makeover on Rattler....

 

Raise the lift hill to 200ft. That's their building height limit, isn't it?

Drop it over the cliff in a near-vertical dive all the way to the bottom like it used to.

Leave the top of the second hill at the same height, but over bank it.

The horseshoe bend could then be banked at nearly 90deg....

==> They will need to seriously reinforce the structure here. Iron Horse track isn't very flexible and they simply can't allow the "wave" any more.

The entrance to the helix could be considerably raised, probably even a camelback hill with airtime.

The helix itself could get really bizarre with odd angles and wicked bunny hops. It could even become the ride's signature moment.

MCBR? There for safety blocking only. Not used otherwise.

Insane, twisting dive off the cliff... but not into the tunnel. Instead, drop it forward, then curve it up toward the station fly-by.

Round the helix next to the station, toss in a zig-zag, then enter the tunnel from the opposite end so that you're turning and dropping in the dark.

The tunnel drop leads to a ground-hugging 180, then up to the final brake run.

 

Yeah, that bit after the MCBR ain't gonna happen, but I can fantasize, can't I?

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Rattler... this ride is going to haunt me to the end of my days.

 

 

The fact that I had to wait 30 minutes for an RCCA creation already had me anxious. The squeal of the track as the cars lazily made their way around the final turnaround was bringing back horrible thoughts of my most recent encounter with the train, but then came the end of the queue where it was so illustriously spelled out to me that unlike every other ride we had ridden today, Rattler had assigned seating. Well, at that point I started praying to the coaster gods that they would put me up in the front half. I didn't need the front seat. Just please, anything but the back. And so the coaster gods heard my pleas... and ignored them as I took my seat at the back of the last car on the right. Now I am just praying this is like Mean Streak or Hurler, or some other coaster I thought was going to be the worst coaster experience of my life that, while they were bad, did not leave me crying. Rattler, as you are all no doubt aware, provides no such mercy.

 

I was already bracing with my hands clasping the bar in front of me, hoping to whatever god could hear me that I was going to come out of this alive. As the car jackhammered its way out of the station, my heart followed in time. As the track curved downward to the lift hill, the train grew more violent, and screeched like a banshee in my ears. As we hit the chain, I turned to one of my friends and asked him why he wanted to ride this so bad. I've never been more terrified of a single roller coaster, while on the roller coaster, in my entire life. He assured me it would be fine. Then came the drop. I felt like I was being shaken up like a can of paint at Home Depot as it bottomed out and swung us up into the large diving helix. The drop downward had the rails screeching so high and loud I thought my eardrums were going to burst. Wasn't there supposed to be topper track on this ride? Where is the topper track?! All I could feel was pain! Then we went up into the triple helix.

 

Rattler's triple helix is the worst roller coaster element that ever existed.

 

The jackhammering was awful, the repetition was ungodly, and the screeching of the rails had become so bad I had to cover my ears which made the jackhammering worse as, being on the right side of the train, my body was being thrown to the right, toward the supports, which just made it all the more unnerving. When it finally spit us out onto the MCRB, my friend noticed a camera. I flipped it the bird so fast I didn't even think of the consequences until we dropped out into the quarry tunnel where, again, I had to put my hands over my ears just to make the excruciatingly awful screeching bearable. Finally, we were spit out once more into the flyby and final turnaround into the break where all I could say was "make it stop! for the love of god, someone make it stop!" and when it did, I was crying. This ride was so bad, so painful, so excruciating, it made me cry. I honestly don't know why I didn't punch the ride operator getting off. As it stands, this coaster is only useful as a US Government-sanctioned interrogation device or as firewood, and if RMC doesn't convert it, I suggest one of those two methods be put in place immediately.

 

 

 

It's a good thing that you came in with an open mind.

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