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Whats the deal with thunder bolts second train? I feel like it will pop up once a year on the transfer track but probably hasn't been used since 2005. I know they don't run 2 trains on thunder bolt anymore but its weird how they don't rotate trains every now and then

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I'm 99% sure they rotate the trains every year. I believe the blue train was running this whole year and the red train was on the transfer track last weekend. So after HITP blue will come off and red will run next season.

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^Yeah it’s infrastructure and a name change. No true new water park ride this year. I think the park has something bigger in store for 2020. Totally assumption though. They spent a lot of money with new full park’s as additions this year to the chain so smaller additions to current parks this year make sense.

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Plus SFNE has been treated pretty well. In the past 8 years they've gotten the following:

 

- 4 new coasters (5 if you count the Super Loop like Six Flags)

- 2 awesome flats

- 1 big slide tower

- new trains on Mind Eraser making the ride enjoyable

- conversion back to Superman

- Holiday in the Park

 

Plus I think Cyborg is a really solid addition. I'm definitely intrigued to see how far they go with theming. Even a bunch of strobe lights with one of those Chance Freestyles is sure to be one of the park's better flats.

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Plus SFNE has been treated pretty well. In the past 8 years they've gotten the following:

 

- 4 new coasters (5 if you count the Super Loop like Six Flags)

- 2 awesome flats

- 1 big slide tower

- new trains on Mind Eraser making the ride enjoyable

- conversion back to Superman

- Holiday in the Park

 

Plus I think Cyborg is a really solid addition. I'm definitely intrigued to see how far they go with theming. Even a bunch of strobe lights with one of those Chance Freestyles is sure to be one of the park's better flats.

 

I think that SFNE is just situated in a pretty lucrative part of the country. They're within 2 and a half hours from both Boston and NYC. They may have space constraints, but its a little surprising that they haven't tried to push for it to be a big time top tier park. If they made it more of a destination park, they could probably tap into the bottomless financial potential of the technology hub of Boston and the financial capital of the world in NYC.

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Compared to other Six Flags parks near a large metro area, SFNE quite a bit further away. Assuming there's no traffic, it takes 2 hours to get from Boston to SFNE. I think that's a bit too far to tap into the average Boston tourist. Plus to get to SFNE, you really need a car. I think the only public transit option would be a Greyhound bus to Springfield (and the station isn't in the best neighborhood) and then an Uber/taxi to SFNE.

 

For comparison, parks like SFOG, SFMM, SFOT, SFFT, and SFSTL are within 45 minutes of downtown metro areas.

 

From NYC, I think a Greyhound bus again is your only option to Springfield. Meanwhile, SFGAdv is serviced NJ Transit Bus from Port Authority or Penn Station. From the perspective of Six Flags, it makes more sense to market Great Adventure for NYC. Great Adventure is not only closer, but it's a more impressive park.

 

SFNE does an excellent job pulling locals from all the New England states. Most of my friends and family (unless they have younger kids) consider SFNE head and shoulders above New England's other parks.

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Compared to other Six Flags parks near a large metro area, SFNE quite a bit further away. Assuming there's no traffic, it takes 2 hours to get from Boston to SFNE. I think that's a bit too far to tap into the average Boston tourist. Plus to get to SFNE, you really need a car. I think the only public transit option would be a Greyhound bus to Springfield (and the station isn't in the best neighborhood) and then an Uber/taxi to SFNE.

 

For comparison, parks like SFOG, SFMM, SFOT, SFFT, and SFSTL are within 45 minutes of downtown metro areas.

 

From NYC, I think a Greyhound bus again is your only option to Springfield. Meanwhile, SFGAdv is serviced NJ Transit Bus from Port Authority or Penn Station. From the perspective of Six Flags, it makes more sense to market Great Adventure for NYC. Great Adventure is not only closer, but it's a more impressive park.

 

SFNE does an excellent job pulling locals from all the New England states. Most of my friends and family (unless they have younger kids) consider SFNE head and shoulders above New England's other parks.

 

Yeah, it is pretty remarkable how despite being in the same tiny state as Boston, its really not on the radar of people who live in Boston (I used to live in Boston). And Mass is very, very tiny. SFNE may be two hours away, but everybody who lives within a two hour radius of WDW either is a Disney addict, or knows that most of their friends are Disney addicts.

 

I still feel like Six Flags would be smart if they get their crap together chartered fleets of busses to NYC and Boston/Cambridge/Somerville to get people to the park... but when has SF ever shown to be great strategists?

 

If I was really trying to take it a step further, I might rent space in the downtown parts of Boston and New York, and make it a waiting area for the buses with a walk-in space so that locals, tourists, and families could see Six Flags ads and talk with Six Flags representatives to help plan their next Six Flags vacation or get set up with season passes for SFNE, SFGadv, or their local park. Tons of foot traffic in those areas. But again, when has Six Flags ever been strategic? That would require the company agreeing to lose money on a building in hopes of improving the quality of the brand and betting on the long-term.

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I'd say locals to Boston are plenty familiar with Six Flags New England and if they want to visit a local park, SFNE is their choice. The distance from the metro area is more a deterrent to tourists.

 

SFNE used to have a connecting bus from the Springfield Greyhound Bus Station. I don't know anyone who has ever taken it and they quietly removed it from their site a while back. I'm guessing they didn't find it worth the expense if they stopped offering it.

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^ Getting better additions than the Great Escape saying much.

 

As for getting better rides than Great Adventure as of late, I'd agree primarily because of Wicked Cyclone, but SFGAdv has gotten some great things too as of late with Justice League, Safari, Zumanjaro, and their own Joker.

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I'd say locals to Boston are plenty familiar with Six Flags New England and if they want to visit a local park, SFNE is their choice. The distance from the metro area is more a deterrent to tourists.

 

SFNE used to have a connecting bus from the Springfield Greyhound Bus Station. I don't know anyone who has ever taken it and they quietly removed it from their site a while back. I'm guessing they didn't find it worth the expense if they stopped offering it.

 

I'm not surprised that it was of limited value. Springfield is 10 minutes away from the park. I'm sure that people who live in Springfield have cars and are comfortable driving around. I think that the efficiency would be chartering buses from downtown Boston, Alston, and/or Cambridge. A lot of people in Boston don't have cars, and a lot of those people are actually young professionals with huge salaries or college students. I lived in Boston for several years so I know the dynamics of the city. Nobody ever really talked about SFNE. In fact, when I was living in Boston, that was the one period of my life where I stepped away from coasters the most at any point in my life.

 

If they wanted to capture the Boston market, they'd have to do an outreach program, and do a better job of getting buses out there. Boston is a walking city and its a T city. A lot of people who live there don't have cars despite having 6 figure salaries.

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I think the Six Flags connecting bus was to get people who took Greyhound buses from Albany, Worcester, Hartford, Boston, etc and not just locals. But if they stopped it, they probably realized it wasn't worth the expense.

 

Yeah, that sounds like a lot of work for people and the door to door trip would be incredibly time consuming. That transfer is really going to make it a pretty long trip. At that point, driving sounds a lot more appealing. Heck, young professionals might just opt to do a Zipcar at that point. I think that the efficiency that would be appealing to young professionals or other carless people would be a bus that starts downtown and drops you right off at the gate. Beyond that, getting in your car and driving is appealing enough. And, like any park, big groups will charter their own buses (you know, the groups of 100's of kids and chaperones in matching T-shirts), and they tend to make up a large chunk of the attendance on any given day.

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Just drove an hour and a half to the park to find out they closed 15 minutes ago. No warning on social media or their website. Can't wait till this company goes bankrupt.

 

For the record, in the time I stopped and wrote this post from a parking spot, 25 cars pulled in and turned around. It's 52 degrees and cloudy...

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That's really a bummer. I was considering trying to make it out for HITP, but I suspected they'd close early due to low crowds (and blame the weather of course). When SFNE closes early, they often give only 15 minutes notice.

 

There was one visit last year where the park had a posted 10 pm closing. There was a bad rainstorm in the morning, so I purposefully arrived at 3:30 pm. At this time, the parking booth still showed a 10 pm close and they were still charging/checking passes for parking. I entered the park around 3:45 pm and then they announced the park was closing at 3:45 pm. I have since learned to get there at opening on days with inclement weather or just go on a better day.

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On one hand I feel like it's absolutely insane for anyone on this site who should know better to drive that far to go to a Six Flags park on a day like this where an attendance closure was almost a given but at the same time as of now the website says nothing about a closure, Facebook says nothing about a closure and Twitter says nothing about a closure and they closed 2 hours ago. Actually they haven't made a single post on Twitter in a month and they haven't posted on Facebook in 3 weeks.

 

Like... what are they even doing?

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SFNE has almost no social media presence, I don't think they have ever posted about a closing anywhere besides their website this year. Their calendar does say until 6 today but obviously they should have a banner or something on their site. They pulled the closing early shenanigans two or three weeks ago on me, but we still managed to have a good visit. The weather was fine but attendance was super low. It seems like they will close early if there is low attendance and slightly bad weather.

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As for getting better rides than Great Adventure as of late, I'd agree primarily because of Wicked Cyclone, but SFGAdv has gotten some great things too as of late with Justice League, Safari, Zumanjaro, and their own Joker.

 

I agree. Not saying it’s drastically better but Wicked Cyclone definitely ups it for SFNE. Also getting the world’s tallest Sky Screamer, “at that time, and Great Adventure’s originally being announced shorter than what it even ended up being. Harley Quinn became the best flat at SFNE. Cyborg not so much. I’m looking forward to seeing how different Wonder Woman will feel being taller. I’d even add in the new trains on Riddler which have greatly improved that coaster. Joker’s are a wash. Safari is great and I do enjoy Zumanjaro just wish the could getting it running together with Ka. All they have to do is flip a switch if they can get the inspector’s approval. Justice League was a pretty awesome addition as well. Anyways just my opinions.

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went to holiday in the park over the weekend and Thunderbolt and Batman were absolutely hauling. Never seen batman go so fast and thunderbolt is vastly underrated, might even have been the best coaster open.

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