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P. 835: The Beast re-tracking effort announced!

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That does sound more "roar-y", but I am not impressed with the speed it takes throughout the ride. I remember watching GOLIATH at SFoG test before it opened. It had been clocked at 77mph in test runs. Its advertised speed is 70mph. They test it with different wheels than normal operation. It should only go slower.

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HOLY CRAP! That thing shoots through the course. I don't thing the MCBR slowed it at all either.

 

im sure all that will change by opening day lol...I remember goliath at SFoG testing in the mornings and not having the trim on but when the park open you could really hear the trim if you were outside the park...

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Is it just me or does Diamondback seem a bit more "Roar-y" than Behemoth at CW? If so I am happy... I love the B&M Roar!

 

It kind of sounds close...maybe a bit more.

 

In terms of the speed...I remember watching the test runs for Behemoth when they first started and from when it tested to when it was opened to the public...the speeds were definitly different...from the video it looks like none of the trips nor mcbr were on...so, I would take the video as an example...albeit it a great one.

 

I think both Diamondback and Behemoth are two of the best layouts B&M have produced...not trying to spark a debate though, just my two cents.

 

Cannot wait to get down to Ohio again this summer...it looks to be another great summer...

 

Ohio, Vegas, Cali (Universal and MAYBE Magic Mountain)...so it should be great.

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HOLY CRAP! That thing shoots through the course. I don't thing the MCBR slowed it at all either.

 

im sure all that will change by opening day lol...I remember goliath at SFoG testing in the mornings and not having the trim on but when the park open you could really hear the trim if you were outside the park...

 

The reasoning behind not hearing the trims during the morning is that the trims only activate when the train is going at a certain speed. It has to do with the fact that there is no weight in the train in the morning.

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I knew it was more than 2. I just couldn't find anything to back me up. So I went to youtube and found this...

 

Regarding how many trims are on GOLIATH, I think those two pictures were taken at different times. The ride opened with less consecutive brakes. B&M actually had to return to add more because the ride was consistently overshooting, causing numerous breakdowns in the beginning.

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^Really? It must have been running WAY too fast then if they needed to add 2 more trims...

 

Yes. Luckily, I knew two ride ops at GOLIATH and we were able to talk about geeky stuff like that. Obviously it still runs just as well up until that point, but the bunny hills suffered from the additional trims. I just wish I was lucky enough to have ridden it during the test runs at 77mph. From the view from the ground, it looked like it kicked Intamin ejector air's ass. Oh well.

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Side note...

 

Carpenters work on re-tracking part of the Beast roller coaster Tuesday at Kings Island. The legendary coaster is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the longest wooden roller coaster in the world at 7,400 feet and has given more than 42 million rides since it opened 30 years ago in 1979.

 

 

The Beast was "unchained" April 13, 1979 on Press Day. The first ride consisted of the following individuals at 10:30am.

 

 

-- Charles S. Mechem, Jr., Chairman of the Board, Taft Broadcasting

-- Dudley S. Taft, President, Taft Broadcasting

-- Gary S. Wachs, Executive VP, Amusement Park Group, Taft Broadcasting

-- Charles Flatt, VP Construction & Engineering

-- William C. Price, Vice President & General Manager

-- Frank Thompson, Operations Director

-- Walt Davis, Director of Park Services

-- Charles Dinn, Director of Construction, Maintenance & Engineering

-- Bill Reed, Director of Rides

-- David Palmer, Director of Marketing

-- Dick Fussner, Director of Loss Prevention

-- Chris Schaffer, Controller

-- Al Collins, Resident Engineer

-- Jeff Gramke, Assistant Engineer

-- Jimmie Nickell, Assistant Director of Construction, Maintenance & Engineer

-- Charles Swing, Maintenance Manager

-- Charles Wright, Carpenter Foreman

 

 

Media members then had the opportunity to ride the Beast from 10:35am until 3:00pm, with the order determined by random drawing.

 

 

Lunch was served from 12:00pm until 2:00pm in the Chicken Palace. The menu consisted of chicken or fish, cole slaw, soft drinks and beer.

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