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Beast's first drop has also been steepened this season right? Is there still no airtime to be found (due to the trims) or did it have an effect on the forces of the drop? I'll be visiting the park Sunday 22nd and unfortunately the park already closes at 8, so no night rides :(. Guess i'll have to settle with the mediocre/less superior day rides.

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48 minutes ago, gardyloo! said:

Beast's first drop has also been steepened this season right? Is there still no airtime to be found (due to the trims) or did it have an effect on the forces of the drop? I'll be visiting the park Sunday 22nd and unfortunately the park already closes at 8, so no night rides :(. Guess i'll have to settle with the mediocre/less superior day rides.

Yes, the first drop was steepened.  You will get airtime, even with the trims, towards the back of the train, on the first drop, and the first hill after the drop, as well as the new little "bump" they put it before the second tunnel.  The helix was also substantially changed, and is more awesome, but I won't ruin the surprise for you.

Prepare to be very impressed.

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2 hours ago, AmyUD06 said:

Yes, the first drop was steepened.  You will get airtime, even with the trims, towards the back of the train, on the first drop, and the first hill after the drop, as well as the new little "bump" they put it before the second tunnel.  The helix was also substantially changed, and is more awesome, but I won't ruin the surprise for you.

Prepare to be very impressed.

nice I'm actually looking forward to it now and know where to sit! :)

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1 hour ago, gardyloo! said:

nice I'm actually looking forward to it now and know where to sit! :)

row 17 is the sweet spot.

its a non-wheel row, back car.  best seats on the Beast

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17 hours ago, bert425 said:

row 17 is the sweet spot.

its a non-wheel row, back car.  best seats on the Beast

Thanks!

 

any recommendations for a quick bite/ dinner on the way from kings island to cedar point? :) can be just outside the park or an hour on the road.

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So I haven't seen a lot about either the history section that has been set up in the gardens, or the Phantom Theater Encore show, so I'll deviate from my big trip report to talk about them and show the pictures here.

First up, the 50th Anneversary history section set up in the gardens.  This area has stones for every year with the big addition on the ground, with blank stones set up for another 15+ years.  Along the path are signs talking about the parks history, broken down by era, as well as model Eiffel Towers painted in the colors of major rides.

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And the Phantom Theater Encore show.  It was entertaining enough...I definitely enjoyed the acrobats, and the talent and production values were there, but not knowing anything about the original ride, I found the show kinda meh.  There was also a little too much union bashing for my liking.  In the lobby of the theater there's a whole bunch of history about the ride, including reproductions of the lenticular posters, and the original model of the ride (which apparently the park had to buy back from a collector who had purchased it).  I love park history, so honestly this part was better than the show for me, but I'm sure people who remember the original Phantom Theater ride will be very entertained by the show.

Out front, one of the original ride vehicles.

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The poster on the outside of the theater.

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Inside the theater (no photo or video allowed once the show began).

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And the history section:

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And I'll close out this post with some pictures of the art contest winners and runners up, on display in one of the stores:

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We got our first trip to King's Island as a part of our road trip about a week ago now and I think it might be my new favorite park. The operations were outstanding, the park itself is well maintained all around, and there is legitimately not a bad coaster built for adults in the park right now. Mystic Timbers is just below the top tier of woodies, awesome ride. Diamondback is probably my favorite B&M hyper now. Orion might be the weakest of the three B&M gigas, but that still makes it a top 25 coaster. We also made what turned out to be the right decision to wait for dark to ride the Beast for the first time. Not only did we get an amazing experience that was one of the most fun coaster rides of my life, but while in line we lucked into a great view for the fireworks/drone show which was great too. I left the park with zero complaints. 

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All right, my first trip to KI will be this coming Sunday, last day with the late hours. I'll be there all day 10 to 10, so I want to hear all the veterans recommendations on where to go/what to do. Obviously planning to ride everything and I'm leaning towards starting with the Beast. How slammed are we thinking on a Sunday? Super excited

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40 minutes ago, The username said:

All right, my first trip to KI will be this coming Sunday, last day with the late hours. I'll be there all day 10 to 10, so I want to hear all the veterans recommendations on where to go/what to do. Obviously planning to ride everything and I'm leaning towards starting with the Beast. How slammed are we thinking on a Sunday? Super excited

It might be busy, might not be depending on the forecast. 

Will you have Early Entry with a Platinum Pass?  Guessing not.

No FL+?  You should have FL+.  It will turn any wait into a station wait on everything except Flight of Fear, possibly Orion, and possibly Beast at night.

Read back through the last few pages, plenty of tips for first timers have been given, but I'll give a quick rundown of how I would hit the park without Early Entry.

1.  Flying Ace Aerial Chase (it's horrible and you'll be glad you didn't wait, plus its never fun to stand in a long line with kids) - Back Row
2.  Woodstock Express (see above about waiting in line with kids) - Back Row
3.  Diamondback - some people swear by Row 11, but I prefer Row 2 or the very back.
4.  Mystic Timbers - Back Row
5.  Beast - Front Row or Row 17.
6.  Backlot Stunt Coaster - Back Row
7.  Flight of Fear - Front Row or Row 2
8.  Orion - Front Row (some people swear by the back but gigas are all about the speed for me)
9.  Racer - Front or Row 2 or 5 (if not the front you want a non-wheel seat)
10. Racer (whatever side you didn't do first) - Same
11.  Adventure Express - Front or Row 2
12.  Banshee - Front or Back Rows
13.  Bat - Front for visuals, Back for forces.

At this point you've hit all the coasters and have time for rerides on your favorites.  I find KI's flat package somewhat lacking, but you'll probably want to hit the Log Flume (Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown) at this time (don't let the fact that its in the kids section fool you, it's good).

Many people will suggest the Phantom Theater Encore show but if you've never been to KI you might not be very impressed; personally I'd spend more time on rides.

Note that they shut Beast down from approximately 9:25 to 10:35 for the fireworks show.  If you're trying to get out of the park before 11:00 PM, you want to be in the station for Beast no later than 9:15 to try to time it for a night ride.  If you don't care, take a nice long bathroom break and then get in line at like 9:45.  You want your last ride of the night to be Beast, preferably in the front row.

For food, Tom + Chee has awesome various grilled cheese sandwiches and so-so mac & cheese.  Everything at Miami River Brewhouse is good.

Let me know if you have any more specific questions.

EDIT:  If you will have Fast Lane plus, the ride order will be a bit different, so let me know if you will.

 

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This is all excellent info! Just what I needed! Weather is looking to be rainy in the early morning before the park opens, but shouldn't be an issue. I guess my main question with fastlane is will it be cheaper to buy now than buying day of in the park? This will be one of my last big coaster adventures before I enter the real world, so I'm trying to make it count.

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12 minutes ago, The username said:

This is all excellent info! Just what I needed! Weather is looking to be rainy in the early morning before the park opens, but shouldn't be an issue. I guess my main question with fastlane is will it be cheaper to buy now than buying day of in the park? This will be one of my last big coaster adventures before I enter the real world, so I'm trying to make it count.

Theoretically they can change the price at any time, but it probably won't this close to the date.  Note that you are physically incapable of buying it "in the park."  You'd need to use your mobile phone to do it there.  It's honestly easier just to buy it in advance.  Even if the crowds are small, you'll appreciate one or two train waits for almost everything.  And you only want Fast Lane PlusDon't bother with the regular FL.

With FL+, here's how I'd go:

-Woodstock Express first; it's not on FL
-Bat second; it's also not on FL.
-Flight of Fear 3rd; it is on FL, but the merge is kinda back from the station some ways and it always seems to have horrible capacity even though it shouldn't.
-After that, do whatever you want LOL.  It won't matter with FL+.  Wanna go spend some time in the water park?  Cool.  Wanna go back to your hotel and take a nap for a few hours?  Fine and dandy.  With FL+, you will have more than enough time to do everything you want several times.

Yeah, if this is your "last big adventure" for a while, I would go all out.

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You'll probably be good on Sunday, but the FL+ isn't what it used to be on Saturdays. It's still good, but I've found myself waiting in 20 minute lines for Diamondback and Orion. Sometimes Banshee fills up, too. Haunt ride waits can be up to 30 minutes until the haunt attractions open up. (Never any haunt attraction wait with Fright Lane) Mystic Timbers has never been more than a wait on the stairs for me.

Is that still really good? Yes, but it's not the nearly guaranteed walk-on golden ticket it used to be, that I praised so much. I have no idea how this holds true on a week day. We've been so many times it's not worth my wife taking off an extra day just to avoid a Saturday visit.

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1 hour ago, coastercrazy216 said:

Do any of the coasters at KI have single rider lines? How should lines be on a Wednesday (like, next Wednesday)?

Nope, no dedicated single rider lines.

Crowds on a Wednesday should be very manageable.  All depends on the weather.

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12 hours ago, coastercrazy216 said:

FL+ still recommended?

Of course. You may ride everything without it. But count the half hours together you will be not standing in lines, but eating, strolling, reriding, enjoying the park, ...

I will always recommend it everywhere where you are not a lot of times and everytime you are there for a limited amount of time.

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On 8/11/2022 at 7:35 PM, coastercrazy216 said:

FL+ still recommended?

Yes. FL+ makes KI a one day park. 12 hours is plenty of time to ride at your leisure, and drink beer. During The Haunt, one is more important than the other. If you can hold out, I would wait for The Haunt.

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