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2 minutes ago, PKI Jizzman said:

It was Wednesday and Thursday 

I was there Wednesday and was able to request rows on Banshee, Mystic Timbers, Beast, Diamondback, and Orion.

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7 hours ago, PKI Jizzman said:

Bummer to hear from friends that all the coasters' ops were denying row requests, even with fast lane. I really hope that doesn't continue into the summer, that's such a disappointment when you're in from out of state trying to get the best rides on Orion/Diamondback/Beast etc. 

EVERY SINGLE row request from us today (both during morning ert and during regular hours) has thus far been granted 

 

I asked with a smile and they all said ok with a smile (on diamondback, beast (row 17 is amazing!   The new beast is SO damn smooth!  Tho yes they are trimming hard in places - not in the helix tho) Orion, racer,  heck. Even on adventure express row request was granted 😁)

 

im sorry that others aren’t having this experience 😞

 

and sucks missed Alex by 1 day!

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Beast has been trimmed hard for about 20 years now, no?
 

I can’t even begin to estimate the number of times someone on this board has said Beast has been trimmed “more than before” …  yet somehow the trains are still able to make it around the tracks. Seems to me that there’s only so much speed they can take off 😂

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Good to hear it seemed to be an isolated issue. Yep nothing new with the Beast about the trims but the initial reports were it flies from the curved tunnel to the 2nd lift but seems the results are now: it's smoother but the trims pull harder than ever.

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56 minutes ago, southpuddle said:

Beast has been trimmed hard for about 20 years now, no?
 

I can’t even begin to estimate the number of times someone on this board has said Beast has been trimmed “more than before” …  yet somehow the trains are still able to make it around the tracks. Seems to me that there’s only so much speed they can take off 😂

43 years, actually.  And yeah, those speculating about a "non-trimmed Beast," or even a "less trimmed Beast" ever having opened to the public are just plain wrong.  You just feel it more since they switched to the magnetic trims, which slow the train down much quicker in a shorter period of time (to the same speed) compared to the old skid trims.

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17 hours ago, southpuddle said:

Beast has been trimmed hard for about 20 years now, no?
 

I can’t even begin to estimate the number of times someone on this board has said Beast has been trimmed “more than before” …  yet somehow the trains are still able to make it around the tracks. Seems to me that there’s only so much speed they can take off 😂

They are absolutely trimming hard on the first hill post drop and at the end of the bridge before the turn into the woods 

 

they TOLD us they are trimming to help all the new work that was done to last

but the trimming on the 1st drop and into the helix felt very similar to  what how it was running before the work.

 

i just love someone who was NOT at a coaster enthusiast event trying to diminish a fact I am reporting from the event 

 

sheesh

 

 

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I was just saying it’s funny that I’ve heard of reports of Beast being trimmed “more than ever” on seemingly dozens of instances over the span of 15ish years. Like, there’s only so much speed that can be taken off before the trains don’t make it around the course. You’ve ridden it this year. I have not. So you’re clearly more qualified to make that call. And everything I say on here is about 90% sarcasm 🙃

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1 hour ago, southpuddle said:

I was just saying it’s funny that I’ve heard of reports of Beast being trimmed “more than ever” on seemingly dozens of instances over the span of 15ish years. Like, there’s only so much speed that can be taken off before the trains don’t make it around the course. You’ve ridden it this year. I have not. So you’re clearly more qualified to make that call. And everything I say on here is about 90% sarcasm 🙃

Don't worry this thread is spicy. Consequence of becoming a good park. 

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35 minutes ago, coasterjohnh said:

What happened to the web cams?

From the website: "Our webcam streams are currently down. It is undetermined at this time when they'll be back online."

Things with technology happen, and it's not really anyone's business why.  Parks aren't going to issue a statement unless it's a foreseen issue, and even then maybe not.

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Nothing happened to the webcams, the park just chose to take them off of the website.

Here. The blue buttons on the bottom to view the other ones all work too. It's the second result when you Google "Kings Island Webcams".

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Quick update from Soak City at Kings Island. I arrived at around 4:30 after my drive from Delaware and checking in to my hotel. Place is packed, to be expected with the holiday weekend and perfect weather. 15 minute wait for the lazy river LOL, and they weren't letting people do multiple laps. Both wave pools now have Hersheypark-style controlled access. Rules pertaining to skinpiness of bikinis are not being enforced at all haha.

More to come from my day and half at the park. 

Update: How the hell is their not a revised Beast review here yet? Full review to follow, but here are some bullet points:

-Yes, the trims still hit. First drop and first hill are just as hard, but the old-MCBR-shed and drop into the helix trims have been softened.
-It's hard to discern the increased drop angle on the first drop, but the pullout and first turn are infinitely smoother. I actually got some air in the back row coming down the first drop.
-There is a little "hump" in the track right before the turn into the second tunnel, which provided a very minor pop of airtime with laterals in the back row. Very surprising.
-It absolutely flies through the course after the shed trims. Instead of creeping into the second lift hill, you now go a third of the way up on momentum alone.
-The helix. Holy shit. This was the best part of the ride before, and is even better now. You enter at a much more extreme bank, allowing the train to carry more speed through it, and it slowly levels out as it ends, leading to some insane laterals. 

All together I'm very, very impressed with the ride. My favorite woodie just cemented it's spot.

Operations are another story but that can wait for my full report.

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Fixing typos from original post on my phone.
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Count me in for loving the "new" Beast as well. It's running SO well based on my rides this weekend. Even the wheel seats were totally fine! It really climbed up in my woodie rankings. And, of course, the night rides are superb.

I will also say that Orion impressed me too. Objectively it is probably my least favorite Giga among the 4 I've ridden (the 4 in the U.S.) but it's still a very good ride. I am 100% convinced that if this coaster was located anywhere on the West coast (or really anywhere other than Kings Island) it would receive entirely different reviews.

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We were able to get a night ride on The Beast last night and it was a major improvement from 4 years ago.  Helix was smooth and fast. 

We are in the park again today and park operations on all the rides have been great.   The longest wait we've had today has been 20 minutes which has really surprised us for being a holiday.  We were able to ride the majority of the coasters by 2pm.  Did 4 rides on Orion and a couple on Mystic Timbers. 

Crowds actually seem lighter than they were on the Tuesday after the holiday 4 years ago.

Only complaint we have is the lack of shows.  The shows seem to be starting later this year as well as not as many of them.

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On 5/29/2022 at 5:59 PM, Mike240SX said:

Quick update from Soak City at Kings Island. I arrived at around 4:30 after my drive from Delaware and checking in to my hotel. Place is packed, to be expected with the holiday weekend and perfect weather. 15 minute wait for the lazy river LOL, and they weren't letting people do multiple laps. Both wave pools now have Hersheypark-style controlled access.

We were just out at Wildwater Kingdom in Allentown yesterday, and the same things you mention for Soak City were also in effect here. Single laps only on the lazy river (only one of the two was open), and both wave pools were fenced and gated off. The line for people to get into the westmost wave pool was all the way back to the gift shop at one point throughout the day. Absolutely miserable. I heard mention the reasoning for it was to ensure all guests under 48" had a life jacket, yet I saw multiple kids immediately take them off and throw them on the ground as soon as they came through.

Wondering if these are new chain-wide policies at their waterparks. Anyone else seen anything similar at Cedar Point, Kings Dominion, Carowinds, Knotts etc?

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1 hour ago, coneyislandchris said:

We were just out at Wildwater Kingdom in Allentown yesterday, and the same things you mention for Soak City were also in effect here. Single laps only on the lazy river (only one of the two was open), and both wave pools were fenced and gated off. The line for people to get into the westmost wave pool was all the way back to the gift shop at one point throughout the day. Absolutely miserable. I heard mention the reasoning for it was to ensure all guests under 48" had a life jacket, yet I saw multiple kids immediately take them off and throw them on the ground as soon as they came through.

Wondering if these are new chain-wide policies at their waterparks. Anyone else seen anything similar at Cedar Point, Kings Dominion, Carowinds, Knotts etc?

I saw a post on one of the Kings Island's fan Facebook pages talking about Cedar Point having this as well, haven't heard anything about the others. 

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I've been seeing the fenced-in wave pools become much more common in the past couple of years.  I get it, there's been too many easily-preventable drowning deaths due to overcrowded pools and distracted life guards, I just wish there were a better way to control it.

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Dorney hasn’t allowed multiple laps on their lazy rivers since I started visiting the water park (2008) with the rare time you get someone who will says you can stay. I guess similar to their coaster re-ride policy where I have been allowed a re-ride a few times total in 15 years of having a pass (I stopped asking but will re-ride when offered).

 

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So I'm back home; I'll get up a full report when I get a chance.  But there's some notes I wanted to make for anyone shooting for a front-row night ride on Beast:

1. Operations at Beast just drag.  The train inches its way forward upon arrival at the station until it is in the proper load/unload position; this takes a solid minute and then some.  According to three of the restraint checkers, it's programmed to do that, and is not in the operator's control.

2.  They shutdown for fireworks at 9:30 on the dot; I got in the FL queue at 9:25 and only saw two trains go out before they stopped loading guests.  It also wasn't until after 10:40 that the ride got running again; the new fireworks/drone show for this year is a lot longer than the old one.

3.  Finally, the worst news:  a complete lack of honoring row requests after the fireworks shutdown.  Maybe I just encountered some grumpy employees, but the grouper denied my front row request and the control panel op made an announcement that "row requests may not be honored."  They weren't sending out trains less than full.  Really hoping that it was just those employees, since row requests were being honored the rest of both days I was there.

So, if you're dead set on getting a front-row night ride, you have to time it so you're lined up in a row in the station prior by 9:25 to be safe.

 

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5 minutes ago, Mike240SX said:

So I'm back home; I'll get up a full report when I get a chance.  But there's some notes I wanted to make for anyone shooting for a front-row night ride on Beast:

1. Operations at Beast just drag.  The train inches its way forward upon arrival at the station until it is in the proper load/unload position; this takes a solid minute and then some.  According to three of the restraint checkers, it's programmed to do that, and is not in the operator's control.

 

 

 

correct.

Don Helbig and Chad Showalter are aware of it, and were NOT happy at Coasterstock when they experienced it for themselves.

I fully expect they have/will have folks working on it (it's only been a week since they were made aware of the issue)

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12 hours ago, coneyislandchris said:

We were just out at Wildwater Kingdom in Allentown yesterday, and the same things you mention for Soak City were also in effect here. Single laps only on the lazy river (only one of the two was open), and both wave pools were fenced and gated off. The line for people to get into the westmost wave pool was all the way back to the gift shop at one point throughout the day. Absolutely miserable. I heard mention the reasoning for it was to ensure all guests under 48" had a life jacket, yet I saw multiple kids immediately take them off and throw them on the ground as soon as they came through.

Wondering if these are new chain-wide policies at their waterparks. Anyone else seen anything similar at Cedar Point, Kings Dominion, Carowinds, Knotts etc?

Which lazy river was open?  Please tell me it was the good one (the original) near the entrance to the park, not the smaller, weaker one in the back?

4 hours ago, YoshiFan said:

Dorney hasn’t allowed multiple laps on their lazy rivers since I started visiting the water park (2008) with the rare time you get someone who will says you can stay. I guess similar to their coaster re-ride policy where I have been allowed a re-ride a few times total in 15 years of having a pass (I stopped asking but will re-ride when offered).

 

I can third the fact that Dorney hasn't allowed multiple laps on either of their lazy rivers since at least when CF took over the park in the early '90s.  I don't think they did before then either, but that might've just been my parents not wanting to do multiple laps LOL.

1 minute ago, bert425 said:

correct.

Don Helbig and Chad Showalter are aware of it, and were NOT happy at Coasterstock when they experienced it for themselves.

I fully expect they have/will have folks working on it (it's only been a week since they were made aware of the issue)

That is great news!

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Photo TR:  A quick trip to Kings Island, Memorial Day Weekend 2022.

This year I decided to forgo my normal Wildwood MDW excursion and instead headed to Kings Island for Sunday and Monday.  After my long 9 hour drive to the park and checking in to my hotel, I headed over, arriving at around 6:30 PM.  Looking nice around the entryway and International Street for the 50th!

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I of course immediately headed for The Beast to check out the new renovations.

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I won't repost my review from a few posts back, but yeah, it's still awesome. 15 minute wait with FL for the front, 12 minute wait for the back.  11/10.

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I then hopped on Racer; one train wait for the blue side, row 2.  Still smooth with the recent retracking working, and t he new paint job looks nice, but is already starting to get affected by grease coming off the wheels.  8/10.

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They also had this cool poster out front:

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Making my way up into Action Zone, I snapped these pictures of the "50th Anniversary VIP Zone," which was just as populated as the one at Cedar Point last year (read: not at all).

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And the Slingshot is in fact gone:

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The dedicated Squishmallows store is no more, but you can buy them in most other shops.

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I ducked out for a quick smoke break, and on my way back in headed to Rivertown, noting that KI has implemented their own "win a skip the line pass" game:

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Hopped on to Mystic Timbers (one train wait for back row), and after running all day in the 80 degree heat, she was absolutely flying.  Probably the best ride I've ever had on it.  11/10.

After that, it was around 8:45, and I was dead tired from my long drive out, so I just went back to the hotel and crashed until the next morning.

I got back to the park at opening, and hopped on Woodstock Express as part of the early entry (walk on for back row, 6/10) and then made my way over to Racer (one train wait for front row, red side, 8/10), and then backtracked over to Diamondback for a half-train wait on row 2, 7/10.  Along the way, I snapped this picture of this big open area which is just screaming for a ride:

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I then hopped on Flying Ace Aerial Chase (half-train wait for back row) against my better judgement.  1/10.  I did realize why Freedom Flyer at Fun Spot Orlando is so much better than this:  These cars don't swing at all and are hard-mounted to the bogies.  The new paint looks nice at least.

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Then I took another lap on The Beast (two-train wait for back row); still awesome.  Still nothing going on with the Vortex site:

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I then jumped on Backlot Stunt Coaster (two train wait for back row, helicopter did not move nor did blades spin, but everything else seemed to be working, 6/10) and Bat (19 minutes for row 4, 7/10).  I then ducked over to the water park for a bit; man was it packed.  This was the line to get in at around 2:00:

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After about two hours in the water park, I took the train back to see the "revamped" scenes.  Meh, just looks like they gave everything a solid power washing and maybe a fresh coat of paint:

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And here's a video that I shot later in the day:

After that, I ducked back to my hotel to take a shower and quick nap, and went back to the park around 7:00.  Hopped on Flight of Fear (15 minute wait for front row, 5/10), Orion (two train wait for back row, left edge, 8/10).  It is growing on me, but I still doubt it'll ever be a top 10 steel coaster for me.

Banshee was next (two train wait for back row, left edge).  Still as incredible as always, despite a slight rattle.  9/10.

Camped out behind the Miami River Brew House for a little break, and caught this awesome video of Diamondback's splashdown.  Rainbow anyone?

I then grabbed another ride on Mystic Timbers (2 train wait for front row).  Finally got the Tree Monster ending, which I hadn't seen since some of my first rides on it back in 2017.

I then basically did laps on the train waiting for it to get dark, snapping a few cool pics along the way:

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Still had a bit of time before it was dark enough, so I snagged another ride on Mystic Timbers (half-train wait for back row), and finally it was time for my night ride on The Beast.  Got in line around 9:25 and saw two trains go out before they closed for fireworks, yadda yadda, didn't get the front.  Total wait of about an hour and a half, including fireworks shutdown, for row 2.  Not as awesome as the front, but still awesome.

And that about wrapped up this trip.  Back to the hotel and into bed, for my long drive home the next day.

So long, Kings Island!

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Thanks for reading; my next planned trip is a rather large road trip including my first ever visits to Idlewild, Camden Park, Kentucky Kingdom, Holiday World, and (fingers crossed) Stricker's Grove.

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