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p. 792 - Camp Cedar campground to open in 2021!

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14 hours ago, Haymaker said:

My wife is plus sized, the only rides she hasnt been able to get between CP and KI is Millennium Force, which would also include TTD if it were ever open when were there. The seat belt is the issue there, not the lap bar. Which is annoying because she fits on Ride of Steel at SFDL with seatbelt to spare, which is an identical train. Not sure why MF & TTD belts are so short. She did get on MF 2 years ago, not sure if they made them even shorter. 

Also, when we went to KI we didnt make it to Flight of Fear or Racer so not sure about those, and she didnt try Banshee because our kids were too short so I rode solo.

Edit: She couldnt do Raptor comfortably either. Narrow seats, wide hips. 

My problem is my middle..LOL  I was about this weight when we went in 2001...I was able to do Raptor...Had to suck it in a bit.  Also did get on MF.  But, since then, I've had 2 babies, numerous steroid injections for RA (those really pack it on),  and 80 more pounds on me. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the belts were shortened.  They completely did this with Gemini and Mine Ride.  Do you remember when it used to be one seat and one large belt over two people?  Of course, I am dating myself here.....that was back in the 80s.  I wouldn't think tall people wouldn't be able to get on those two.  When they converted it to 2 individual seats, they lost a lot of space.  My knees were nearly jammed into the front.  It is crazy.  Busch Gardens, on the other hand, was not even a question!  They are so very generous with the restraints and life was great down there! 

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48 minutes ago, PKI Jizzman said:

I'll be at CP, hope you have a great day at KI! Most coasters and thrill rides have test seats, just try them out before you commit to a line. 

With the B&M clamshells it's usually thick thighs that deny rides (but thick thighs do save lives).

I would be interested in knowing how CP is running!  Post while you are there! 

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Can anyone tell me about FLP?  I see they have to be purchased online, but do they limit how many they sell? Due to possible weather issues, we generally like to wait until the night before to buy them.  In Tampa Bay, we were fine doing that (I don't know if they limit the number), but I just want to know how it works with Cedar Fair parks.  At Busch Gardens, keeping the passes on our phone were fine....the employees just scanned the bar code from the phone.  Is that a possibility at King's Island or do they require something physical? 

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58 minutes ago, Carrie said:

Can anyone tell me about FLP?  I see they have to be purchased online, but do they limit how many they sell? Due to possible weather issues, we generally like to wait until the night before to buy them.  In Tampa Bay, we were fine doing that (I don't know if they limit the number), but I just want to know how it works with Cedar Fair parks.  At Busch Gardens, keeping the passes on our phone were fine....the employees just scanned the bar code from the phone.  Is that a possibility at King's Island or do they require something physical? 

They do limit the amount sold.  What that amount is, is anyone's guess.  CF parks issue you a wristband that you show at the FL entry at each ride.  At Kings Island, there is a little booth to the left after entry where you redeem your voucher (scanned from phone or paper) for the wristband, or you can do it at any retail establishment that sells Fast Lane (there are several throughout the park).  You should be fine buying a week in advance, at which point you should have a pretty good idea of what the weather is going to be like on your park day.

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Pretty sure you'd be fine waiting until you got to the park if you wanted to.  Don't think KI sells out of FLP all that often.  And it'll pretty much make everything a walk on.

 

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2 hours ago, tndank said:

Pretty sure you'd be fine waiting until you got to the park if you wanted to.  Don't think KI sells out of FLP all that often.  And it'll pretty much made everything a walk on.

 

That's how it was at Busch Gardens.  I think the longest I waited was 5-10 mins.   Everything else was on and off.  Probably, realistically, didn't need the passes, as the park was nearly a ghost town, but the in and off was awesome.  Allowed for multiple rides!  

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9 hours ago, Carrie said:

Can anyone tell me about FLP?  I see they have to be purchased online, but do they limit how many they sell? Due to possible weather issues, we generally like to wait until the night before to buy them.  In Tampa Bay, we were fine doing that (I don't know if they limit the number), but I just want to know how it works with Cedar Fair parks.  At Busch Gardens, keeping the passes on our phone were fine....the employees just scanned the bar code from the phone.  Is that a possibility at King's Island or do they require something physical? 

Fast Lane Plus at KI is great. We were there for one day and did all the rides as much as we wanted. Never waited more than 20 Minutes, which was for Flight of Fear and Firehawk (RIP). All other rides were mostly walkons.

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19 hours ago, Carrie said:

Can anyone tell me about FLP?  I see they have to be purchased online, but do they limit how many they sell? Due to possible weather issues, we generally like to wait until the night before to buy them.  In Tampa Bay, we were fine doing that (I don't know if they limit the number), but I just want to know how it works with Cedar Fair parks.  At Busch Gardens, keeping the passes on our phone were fine....the employees just scanned the bar code from the phone.  Is that a possibility at King's Island or do they require something physical? 

On a Wednesday it likely won't sell out so yes you can wait until the day of to buy. 

I posted about my spontaneous trip on a Wednesday a week and a half ago and had a good time, but the big coasters will still have a 20-30 minute wait and that does add up. It also helps you get in multiple night rides.

If you aren't getting fast lane, do Flight of Fear first, then Stunt Coaster, Invertigo, Bat first since they have the worst capacity. 

The app's wait times have been pretty accurate during my visits.

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So, I arrived in Mason around 3 after my 9 hour drive from Delaware. Dropped off my stuff at the hotel and then headed to the park. As it was around 94 degrees ambient, I went right to the water park and spent about 2 and a half hours there. Everything was open.

Made my way over to the rides side around 6, for a one train wait for the back row Mystic Timbers ("Cars" and snake monster ending). The shed was damned hot LOL.  Still awesome though.

Next up was the Beast, with a 5 train wait for front row. Not night, but still great. I noticed brand new wood for the rails at the bottom of the valley after the first hill and at the turn into the 2nd tunnel. I also noticed the American flag in the pre-lift turnaround, which is never noticed before.IMG_20210812_185957018_HDR.thumb.jpg.cd54f8394e30a69589aaa84d1d456837.jpg

After that, I just grabbed a grilled cheese from Tom + Chee (eating now) and will then head out...I'm tired haha. I wanted to go back to the hotel after the water park but needed to get at least one ride on my number one and two here in case the weather doesn't cooperate tomorrow (when I looked this morning they were calling for 40-60% chance of thunderstorms all day Saturday).

More to come.

 

 

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On 8/6/2021 at 5:22 PM, Carrie said:

Can anyone tell me about FLP?  I see they have to be purchased online, but do they limit how many they sell? Due to possible weather issues, we generally like to wait until the night before to buy them.  In Tampa Bay, we were fine doing that (I don't know if they limit the number), but I just want to know how it works with Cedar Fair parks.  At Busch Gardens, keeping the passes on our phone were fine....the employees just scanned the bar code from the phone.  Is that a possibility at King's Island or do they require something physical? 

There are also two tiers of FL / FLP.  The basic Fast lane allows you front of line access on a short list of major rides.  FL Plus - the list is considerably longer and includes major rides like Orion and Mystic Timbers.  I bought FLP last week on my first ever visit here and got rides in on all the major coasters (Beast was closed), including four rides on Orion.  The investment was worth it.

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The day of fun starts right here!

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Amazing theming.  Nightly fireworks show and party in this area was a nice bonus.  The park is proud of Orion and it shows.  There are banners advertising it all over the park.  Plus the lighting package at night is amazing.

Next summer I will visit sister park KD but I will definitely be back here again!

 

 

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^ you're a little backwards.

FL+ offers just 5 more rides (4 coasters and one flat) than regular FL on the Dry side (there are 4 additional FL+ water park rides too)

 

but they are the four coasters you'll REALLY want to be able to skip the lines on:

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but pretty much every ride is on FL.. so if you don't care about these 4 particular coasters (say you're a huge Banshee and Diamondback fan and you'll ride the hell out of those?   buy regular Fast Lane)

I think the only two coasters not on FL/FL+ at all, and thus require standby queue wait are:  The Bat & Woodstock Express

 

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Just wrapped up my full day at KI of this trip. Got on every adult coaster except Invertigo (die in a fire), Flying Ace, and Woodstock Express, and spent a few solid hours in the water park. Storms never materialized, but nearby lightning did close the rides for about a half hour.

Closed out the night with the next to last Beast train before fireworks shutdown, and had lightning in the distance while cresting the lift hill...even more magical than ever.

Report coming eventually. Tomorrow it's off to Indiana Beach for my first trip there.

 

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How do you skip Woodstock Express?  I still ride it every time.  A classic John C Allen with buzz bars.

Have a blast at Indiana Beach.  Looking forward to hearing about your day there.  I'm tentatively planning to visit IB next Saturday for the first time myself.

 

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8 minutes ago, tndank said:

How do you skip Woodstock Express?  I still ride it every time.  A classic John C Allen with buzz bars.

Have a blast at Indiana Beach.  Looking forward to hearing about your day there.  I'm tentatively planning to visit IB next Saturday for the first time myself.

 

Honestly, I've been on it a ton of times before (and only live 3 hours from its sister at Kings Dominion), and probably could have gotten on it had I not went back to the hotel for a nap in the middle of the day LOL. Don't worry, I'll be back for Haunt.

Will do on IB.  I'm a bit disappointed that the new Schwarzkopf won't be open, but there's still another one and a few reportedly-awesome woodies.

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46 minutes ago, tndank said:

How do you skip Woodstock Express?  I still ride it every time.  A classic John C Allen with buzz bars.

Have a blast at Indiana Beach.  Looking forward to hearing about your day there.  I'm tentatively planning to visit IB next Saturday for the first time myself.

 

it was quite rough, and needs some love - when we rode it ~4 weeks ago.

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On 8/13/2021 at 1:20 AM, Mike240SX said:

So, I arrived in Mason around 3 after my 9 hour drive from Delaware. Dropped off my stuff at the hotel and then headed to the park. As it was around 94 degrees ambient, I went right to the water park and spent about 2 and a half hours there. Everything was open.

Made my way over to the rides side around 6, for a one train wait for the back row Mystic Timbers ("Cars" and snake monster ending). The shed was damned hot LOL.  Still awesome though.

Next up was the Beast, with a 5 train wait for front row. Not night, but still great. I noticed brand new wood for the rails at the bottom of the valley after the first hill and at the turn into the 2nd tunnel. I also noticed the American flag in the pre-lift turnaround, which is never noticed before.IMG_20210812_185957018_HDR.thumb.jpg.cd54f8394e30a69589aaa84d1d456837.jpg

After that, I just grabbed a grilled cheese from Tom + Chee (eating now) and will then head out...I'm tired haha. I wanted to go back to the hotel after the water park but needed to get at least one ride on my number one and two here in case the weather doesn't cooperate tomorrow (when I looked this morning they were calling for 40-60% chance of thunderstorms all day Saturday).

More to come.

 

 

Wow, that's a strange look without Vortex between Beast and Orion. It's the first time I see this since the demolishion of Vortex. I really had to think about what it is that i am seeing.

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6 hours ago, Pedrinho said:

Wow, that's a strange look without Vortex between Beast and Orion. It's the first time I see this since the demolishion of Vortex. I really had to think about what it is that i am seeing.

ah.. you must not have looked at my Coasterstock Trip Report 😛

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15 hours ago, Pedrinho said:

Wow, that's a strange look without Vortex between Beast and Orion. It's the first time I see this since the demolishion of Vortex. I really had to think about what it is that i am seeing.

Technically, you never saw Vortex and Orion at the same time. 

EDIT:  Here's the "report."

So, I realize now that I didn't really take a lot of pictures, so this will be pretty brief.

My day on Thursday was quite limited; I had just finished the drive from home (about 9 hours) and was feeling pretty tired by the end of the day.  Spent about 3 hours in the water park, and got a total of 4 laps on the lazy river, two wave-cycles in the wave pool, one slide, and 2 adult beverages from the woefully understaffed bar.   I then went into the dry park around 6:30 (8 PM closing) for laps on Mystic (back row, 1 train wait, "Cars" & snake ending) and Beast (front row, 5 train wait).  Notably, the ambient temp was probably still above 90, and it felt over 100 inside the shed on Mystic.  Grabbed a classic grilled cheese from Tom + Chee and went back to my hotel and passed out.

On Friday, I made it to the park for early entry, grabbed my Fast Lane+ wristband, and hopped on Orion (back row, 14 minutes wait-and-ride) and then hung around Area 72 for Flight of Fear (front row, first public train of the day, 10 minutes wait-and-ride, largely caused by staff just chatting while the station was loading).  Grabbed a sub from Subway, then hopped on Racer (red side, only one running, row 2, one train wait), Adventure Express (row 5, half-train wait), Bat (back row, 14 minute wait-and-ride from the time I encountered people in the queue), and Banshee (back row right, 6 minutes wait-and-ride).  I then went over to the water park for about two and a half hours, getting like 5 consecutive laps on the lazy river and another two adult beverages, when the nearby storm meant the entire water park and anything taller than a building to close in the rides side.  Not knowing how long this would last, I went back to my hotel for a nap, and then went back to the park at around 7.  Got on Diamondback (back row left, 14 minutes wait-and-ride), Mystic Timbers (front row, 14 minutes, "Total Eclipse of the Heart" and bat ending), Beast (front row, 20 minutes), Banshee (front row left, half-train wait), Shake Rattle & Roll (half-cycle wait), Backlot Stunt Coaster (row 5, half-train wait, all effects on). 

SR&R and Backlot were pretty much just to kill time while it got darker.  I had to be on the road early, so I didn't want to stay until after the fireworks shutdown for my night ride on Beast, but I did want it to be as dark as possible.  I made it to the station around 8:55, waited for the front until I was the next-to-next to ride, and then let people pass me until 9:33, when, after being informed by the ride ops that there would only be two more trains before the shutdown, I hopped on.  It wasn't pitch black, but it was dark enough, and with the lightning in the distance lighting fire to the sky, it was just about as perfect of a closing to a day at Kings Island one could have.

Some observations:
-I've never noticed it before, but Shake Rattle & Roll has the best light programming I've ever seen on a Troika.
-They really gotta do something with that Crypt building.
-I observed the groupers not restricting guests from requesting specific rows.  Even on Mystic, with it's tiny station, there were like 4 trains of people lined up along the wall waiting for the front row.  They were still generally limiting the amount of people of the station though.
-Food lines were back down to their normal lengths; none of the 40+ minute waits for grub that I saw earlier in the year.

The next day, I'd drive to Indiana Beach for my first ever trip there.  Go read about it. :)

Oh, and here's a picture of the song-and-dance stage show that's done at closing between the fountain and the Eiffel tower.  Music wasn't quite my taste, but the presence of a live band was a cool touch, and the lighting setup was pretty good.

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I'll likely be back for Haunt, so long KI until then.

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On 8/14/2021 at 5:35 PM, bert425 said:

ah.. you must not have looked at my Coasterstock Trip Report 😛

Indeed I didn't! :)

I made some TPR, theme park and coaster hiatius because it fugged me up that we can't do anything here in Germany and I needed some distance. Not good that I missed your report anyway ;)

I'll make sure to correct that mistake! :)

 

On 8/14/2021 at 5:37 PM, Mike240SX said:

Technically, you never saw Vortex and Orion at the same time. 

Yes, I know. It was misphrased by me. I wanted to say that, when I thought of the look from Beast in this direction, I would always put Vortext in there. So to see a picture of Orion from the Beasts platform without it looked odd because I know from my last visit that there should have been a lot of view obstructing steel in between.

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I didn't even think about the tower needing paint, but I guess it's not perfect. Being it's the centerpiece of the entrance and park, them making sure the paint is in great shape is just another reason why this park is amazing.

Are there any plans for COVID restrictions in place? My vaccinated self will begrudgingly wear a mask for the Haunt. If there are other noticeable measures beyond that, I'll wait for this to pass for another few months at a time, before visiting again. I won't visit any parks ever again for another sanitized soaked train loaded every-other row. Miserable.

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18 minutes ago, prozach626 said:

I didn't even think about the tower needing paint, but I guess it's not perfect. Being it's the centerpiece of the entrance and park, them making sure the paint is in great shape is just another reason why this park is amazing.

Are there any plans for COVID restrictions in place? My vaccinated self will begrudgingly wear a mask for the Haunt. If there are other noticeable measures beyond that, I'll wait for this to pass for another few months at a time, before visiting again. I won't visit any parks ever again for another sanitized soaked train loaded every-other row. Miserable.

As of two weeks ago, the only COVID restriction in place is "masks required indoors if not vaccinated and not eating and drinking."  No reservations, no temperature checks, no limitations on ride capacity.

And I'm tentatively planning a trip for October 15/16, hint hint. ;)

EDIT: They're also completely cash-less; don't know if this would count as a "COVID" restriction or not.

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I haven't visited a park this year that's doing cleaning on attractions unless there's a protein spill.

Hardly any of the sanitizer stations are full at KI anymore so bring your own if you want to use after every ride. 

The masks indoors must be new a new rule but at this point I'm just going to keep a mask with me at all times since the rules change often and it's nearly impossible to not have kids/people bumping into you in line. 

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4 hours ago, Mike240SX said:

And I'm tentatively planning a trip for October 15/16, hint hint. ;)

Hey! That's the weekend I'm targeting on making my annual trip to Haunt with a couple of my kids and my girlfriend! It'd be great to meet up with you, AND Prozach and wife if they come as well! Maybe RawkinCoaster will make her usual appearance (KI's Haunt is where I first met her as well) also!

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