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p. 792 - Camp Cedar campground to open in 2021!

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19 minutes ago, BitterOldHag said:

Non-beer related question (I know... I'm a buzzkill!), but if one has season long FastLane, does that person need to redeem it at the main FastLane booth at the entrance, or can they redeem it at any shop that sells it?  I am pretty sure the shop inside the main gate on the right side of International Street sells it and I figured avoiding the line at the main stand might get me to Orion and Mystic Timbers faster, but I wasn't sure if this was allowed.  I know CP allows redemption at the gift shops, so I'd assume KI would too.  Unfortunately, my assumptions have led me down the wrong path one too many times!  

Hoping to head down to KI again on Friday and this time, actually relax and enjoy some of the little things, like sitting on the patio by Diamondback and trying one of the Blue Ice Cream beers.  See, I got back to the beer topic, so I'm not all bad!  

Any shop should be fine.  This season (and last), I got my wirstbands:

-At KI I did it at the dedicated FL redemption booth.  If you're there at opening there won't be a substantial line for the wristbands.
-At Cedar Point at the general redemption stand on the left as you enter.
-At Dorney at a gift shop in the water park.

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7 hours ago, coasterbill said:

I remember a few years ago we were out to dinner with a big group and I had an hour drive home so I just looked at the beer list of like 40 beers and saw that Yeungling had the lowest ABV of anything respectable (see: Not Coors Light) so I ordered that. Yeungling is my boring "I have to drive later so I can't have much" beer.

I guess I forgot about having a beer and driving later. As a teacher on a visa I need a spotless record so I don't touch any if driving but if I do, I've just got so used to Korea having 'replacement drivers' for your cars that I can just drink heavy since they are almost the same costs as taxis and I don't have to go all the way back to find my car hungover the next day.

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6 hours ago, Mike240SX said:

Any shop should be fine.  This season (and last), I got my wirstbands:

-At KI I did it at the dedicated FL redemption booth.  If you're there at opening there won't be a substantial line for the wristbands.
-At Cedar Point at the general redemption stand on the left as you enter.
-At Dorney at a gift shop in the water park.

I have All-Season Fastlane Plus but I've always gone in the morning.  If I show up in the late afternoon, will I still be able to pick up my wristband?

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13 hours ago, Garet said:

Why is light beer so popular in the USA? Maybe it's the British in me and what is usually in our pubs but that was a big culture shock for me when I visited. Maybe it was because everything else I was prepared for when visiting Pennsylvania to Ohio: The magazine racks of just hunting, guns, fishing and dirt racing, check. Giant slushies: check. Your gas station's (Sheetz) having more food served than most restaurants: check. But for some reason I did not expect light beer to be in the fridges of the houses I stayed in or so prominent in all the bars.

I think it’s because that’s what the whole country grows up drinking. Beer isn’t that accessible to Americans in their teenage years. So when given an opportunity they go with the 30 pack of light beers for $20. Not the 6 pack craft assortment from the local microbrewery for $20. 
 

Some people “grow up” in their own minds and move on from the “piss water”.  But for the most part people just stick with what they’re used to. 
 

 

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^ That and many places have been so far behind when it comes to alcohol laws. In Alabama no beer could be above 6% ABV until 2009.  Heck even views on alcohol in general have changed the last decade or so. Think about how many parks have started selling it the last few years.

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2 hours ago, jackinbox said:

I have All-Season Fastlane Plus but I've always gone in the morning.  If I show up in the late afternoon, will I still be able to pick up my wristband?

Yep, doesn't matter what time of day it is, if you've got it on your pass you get a wristband.  Unlike some places *coughSixFlagscough*.

EDIT:  Within reason.  I have seen the dedicated redemption centers closed an hour or so before the park; doesn't mean you can't redeem it, just not there.

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3 hours ago, CoasterGuy06 said:

^ Think about how many parks have started selling it the last few years.

SDC and Dollywood need to get on board.

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So today we did a bit of a stupid maneuver, we planned an impromptu day trip to CP, I wanted to go to Kings Island, but the weather in Sandusky looked good and the weather around Cincinnati looked horrendous all day. Mistake one for both parks: relying on any weather app or terrible meteorological models. 

Anyway in Toledo (came from Michigan) I had a feeling to just turn on 75 and go to KI, but didn’t follow it. Get to Cedar Point and notice the weather at KI got significantly better. The weather at Cedar Point? Significantly worse. Rode SV, joked about leaving and going to KI (didn’t because I said it was such a stupid idea). Got lunch (took like an hour mind to get lunch, CP was pretty busy lol), got in line for dragster because the weather looked fine, thirty minutes in it started to rain, dragster closed (didn’t open again until like 7 or 8 I believe). Forecast changed to heavy rain and severe storms for around three hours. With that knowledge, the idiot in us left Cedar Point at 2 PM, and drove to KI.

I won’t say if it was worth it or not, still neutral on it, but we drove the wild route you have to take to get there, ended up getting stopped at two railroad crossings, drove through a severe storm or two, a road about to wash out, and at a little after 6 arrived at KI. Anddddd, the storms were back in the forecast. Lol. Rode flight of fear (honestly liked it I won’t lie), then a wicked lightning storm hit and even that closed. Lasted about 45 minutes. By the time stuff opened it was 8. One of the most insane 30-45 minutes of coasters followed. Rode flight of fear again, rode Mystic Timber’s, Diamondback, Beast, Stunt Coaster (then rain came and ruined Orion and Banshee, with how short the lines were we probably could’ve done all of that by 9-9:10 at the brisk speed walk we were taking). 

I honestly had fun, it was/would’ve been my third trip to cedar point this year, so I wasn’t expecting an amazing trip, saw a lot of interesting places in Ohio I’ll probably never see again, and (I forgot to mention this, I’ve never been to Kings Island) got a lot of new credits at the same time (If gas or money spent was a concern for anyone reading this, the car we took is a hybrid and got around 40 MPG the entire time, spent roughly 35 dollars on gas round trip). Apparently Cedar Point cleared out too, and the rain did last until latish, and from what we saw most of the rides at Cedar Point were closed for nearly the entire drive to Kings Island (yes, even Gemini, Corkscrew and Cedar Creek apparently)

I’ll be honest, I had low expectations for The Beast, but I loved it, Mystic Timber’s was also significantly better than I thought it was going to be, but I also haven’t ridden a good wooden coaster in years. Diamondback was okay, I liked it but the part of the ride after the MCBR felt like it has a lot of missed opportunity, I definitely prefer Mako or Behemoth overall. Stunt coaster has a weird place in my heart, I honestly also love it.

In the end I’ll never let myself do this again, but it was a fun experience and something my friends and I have always joked about doing. I’ll also plan a KI exclusive trip so that I can ride Orion and Banshee, I want to see what all the commotion is about the vest restraints on an invert and what I think about Orion.

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^Glad you were able to make the most of the situation.  For those who are fortunate to live close enough, spontaneous day trips to the Ohio parks are always a good time, as long as your expectations beforehand are appropriate.  I'd definitely recommend coming back for Orion if you can swing it.

The weather is definitely a guessing game, I personally believe that a little rain in the forecast isn't bad by any means.  If the forecast calls for, say, roughly 60% chance of storms all day, that never actually happens, so it actually can be beneficial to visit then since crowds will likely be driven away.  

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8 hours ago, MiABeta said:

the car we took is a hybrid 

What's the fun in that???

 

I'm glad there was a silver lining and a mostly happy ending. I wish you'd ridden Orion. Don't believe the skeptics. It's a beast... but not The Beast.

KI is a phenomenal one-day park. CP is at least a two-day park, unless you're very local or it's part of a bigger trip. (IMO)

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The last 2 days have been the most brutal I can remember in Cincy. Tuesday was 103* with spotty storms and yesterday was still really hot and muggy with one of the most intense lightning storms I've encountered. Interested in seeing how many strikes to the ground we got. 

Good thing is after today it looks like sunshine and warm summer temps for the next week + for coaster stock!

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Makes me glad I went last Saturday. It was in the 80's, but there was a nice consistent breeze throughout the day to fend off mud butt.

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1 hour ago, PKI Jizzman said:

The last 2 days have been the most brutal I can remember in Cincy. Tuesday was 103* with spotty storms and yesterday was still really hot and muggy with one of the most intense lightning storms I've encountered. Interested in seeing how many strikes to the ground we got.

Yeah that storm was crazy, we were in line for flight of fear just hanging out when the it went through, and it looked and sounded like the park got struck three or four times in a row lol. One looked like it hit Windseeker and everyone gasped at the same time. Between my Orlando trip and yesterday my luck with weather has been horrible this year, hopefully it gets better soon. I haven’t had a full day of coasters yet this year.

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Literally everything from Dragster (a ride with 10,000 drive tires) to Wicked Twister (a ride that uses 100% magnetic brakes) would have shut down in that amount of rain. CP is a s-show when there's the slightest mist, meanwhile I had an amazing time at KI a few weeks ago with off-and-on showers - nothing at all closed down or even went to reduced capacity in the rain. Amazing how two parks owned by the same chain in the same state can have such wildly different rain policies...

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While I agree fully, it’s not so much the closing down for rain that’s the aggravation though… it’s the “we need to wait and make sure it’s not going to start raining again so we’re just going to keep everything closed even though it’s not raining anymore” that takes anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour. If the rides never close down then you can make your own decision if you want to jump in line and get pelted by rain drops or not. But Cedar Point is apparently content with their rain policy, which they say is in the name of “safety” to the detriment of the entire experience. 

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Comparing Cedar Point's rain policy to Kings Island's apparent policy is apples to oranges. I see an easily obtainable middle ground between cycling 80 mph coasters in hard rain and stopping for drizzle. I'd be pissed if I had the opportunity to wait in the station for the rain to pass instead of being advised to saddle up during what Forrest Gump would describe as 'stinging rain.'

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Another note from yesterday - have these mobile ordering teasers (can't read it it the picture but the sign says Coming Soon) been around all year, or has Cedar Fair seemingly heard our commentary regarding food lines this season?

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Just got back from KI and while there were a few minor quirks (Mystic Timbers seemed to be having issues, Flight of Fear’s FL+ line was out the door of the UFO room and yes, the food lines were  crazy), I still had a great time.  Rode Orion in the front… that was like a religious experience.  Absolutely love this ride.  Glass smooth, so fast and the airtime hill delivered in spades.  Took my first ride of the season on The Beast and man has it gotten rough, even in a non-wheel seat.  And Banshee is actually even worse than The Beast.  And it’s taken 16 years, but Backlot Italian Coaster is sooooo awesome.  I absolutely love the launch, the sharp turns, and the final tunnel is crazy dark.  It has become a must ride for me now, especially since I bypassed a full queue and walked right on with FL.

And one observation. There was a poster in one of the men’s washrooms that was promoting a 2021 season pass.  At the bottom it said that it includes the upcoming Grand Carnival event, the Tricks and Treats Fall Fest, and Winterfest.  Found it interesting that Haunt wasn’t mentioned. 

Oh, and the Blue Ice Cream beer was weird.  Not bad weird, just unusual.  Definitely enjoyed it though!  

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54 minutes ago, BitterOldHag said:

And one observation. There was a poster in one of the men’s washrooms that was promoting a 2021 season pass.  At the bottom it said that it includes the upcoming Grand Carnival event, the Tricks and Treats Fall Fest, and Winterfest.  Found it interesting that Haunt wasn’t mentioned. 

They had Tricks and Treats Fall Fest last year.  That sign is from last year promoting season passes.

 

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18 hours ago, southpuddle said:

While I agree fully, it’s not so much the closing down for rain that’s the aggravation though… it’s the “we need to wait and make sure it’s not going to start raining again so we’re just going to keep everything closed even though it’s not raining anymore” that takes anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour. If the rides never close down then you can make your own decision if you want to jump in line and get pelted by rain drops or not. But Cedar Point is apparently content with their rain policy, which they say is in the name of “safety” to the detriment of the entire experience. 

This.  Even the slightest and shortest of rain showers also mixed with sun during my visit to CP a few weeks ago shut down 90%+ of the park.  Then they proceeded to stand around waiting in the sun for however many minutes until the SOP said it's "safe" to resume again.

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