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I made my way to the park on Sunday on a one day turn and burn to get a last ride on Vortex. I'm glad I did and it really was cool to see all the people that showed up to do the same. Long lines and tons of people taking pictures and videos from all different spots and angles. The weather was beautiful and lines were long all over the park in the afternoon, especially fastlane. I'm guessing fastlane was so busy because of pass renewals, as was the case for me too. I waited about 35 minutes starting at 6:20 to ride the Beast; even longer than I waited on a very crowded nice weather Saturday Haunt night a couple years ago with fastlane.

 

^I'm the complete opposite. I love Banshee. It feels so big and fast. At opposite ends of the spectrum, my favorite inverts are Batman and Banshee. They are very different experiences but I really enjoy both.

 

^^I would probably go to get a final ride on Ninja for sentimental reasons...but it really is such a piece of trash. I really like Vortex, Ninja can kick rocks. I was disappointed to see in the SFSTL thread that it is receiving some maintenance work

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I will cancel my Six Flags membership and boycott the chain if the St. Louis Ninja outlives the Magic Mountain Ninja.

 

Banshee is the Millennium Force of B&M inverts. Everything on a grand scale. There's a place for those, as well as the Raptors and Mavericks of the world. Say what you want about the vests, but Banshee doesn't have a view as badly obstructed in the middle seats as previous generation B&M inverts did.

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I'll never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever... (well you get the point) understand people who dog on Banshee, or specifically act like it lacks forces. My last rides on it in particular, just a couple of weeks ago, my feet actually were going numb by the end of the ride, usually a Batman hallmark. The ride pulls serious forces, and that's a simple fact. Maybe some don't like its spread out (read: unique and interesting) layout, compared to the Batman and Raptor Invert models, and that's fine, because opinions and preferences are for each, their own. But it's a forceful coaster, just like Millennium Force, and those denying it, are denying science, and physics, as my body a couple weeks ago can attest to.

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I've said many times before that Banshee delivers speed sensations and has smooth gradual transitions more akin to a B&M hyper than a typical invert. If you go into it expecting the same flavor as Montu or Batman you'll be disappointed.

 

Banshee is kind of unique to the invert family. To say that it's forceless isn't very objective. It just doesn't deliver forces in the same manner as snappier inverts. Banshee is hauling ass at the bottom of every swooping hill and element.

 

I personally love it and I have zero concern for my ears when I ride it.

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I'll never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever... (well you get the point) understand people who dog on Banshee, or specifically act like it lacks forces. My last rides on it in particular, just a couple of weeks ago, my feet actually were going numb by the end of the ride, usually a Batman hallmark. The ride pulls serious forces, and that's a simple fact. Maybe some don't like its spread out (read: unique and interesting) layout, compared to the Batman and Raptor Invert models, and that's fine, because opinions and preferences are for each, their own. But it's a forceful coaster, just like Millennium Force, and those denying it, are denying science, and physics, as my body a couple weeks ago can attest to.

 

I would not recommend you ride any B&Ms built before 2006, if Banshee makes your feet numb, ones with forces might kill you.

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^Somebody else posted a tribute video playing "I'll be missing you" in the background. Some of these coaster boys really need to chill. Although I can't wait to hear what music they use when Beast closes.

 

I don't think Beast is ever gonna close, unless the whole park closes.

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Banshee's great and has lots of good sustained forces, and it's gonna be really weird without the giant Arrow dominating the skyline at the back of the park next year. It's gonna be missed, but I certainly look forward to the huge amount of real estate free'd up because of its closure. There's a lot of potential with that site for something truly spectacular.

 

Lines were fairly long that day for the ride (the park was kinda busy in general, and Diamondback was closed ), though I had the fortune of renewing my Gold pass and receiving a complimentary Fast Lane Plus, which would've expired after Sunday so of course I had to redeem it then. Did one ride on Vortex using it and only had to wait about 5 minutes, even though it was spilling out of the station. The crew was CRUSHING it with throughput.

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This is Fast Lane line. Believe it or not, I only waited, like, 5 minutes. It went through shockingly quick, and the crew were crushing the 3 train ops.

 

I spent most of the day shooting some vid of it though and posted it on Monday and left that evening to KK for their final night. A lot of good reception for the coaster, lots of farewells from TONS of locals, and a handful of camera-wielding coaster nerds like myself.

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I'll never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever... (well you get the point) understand people who dog on Banshee, or specifically act like it lacks forces. My last rides on it in particular, just a couple of weeks ago, my feet actually were going numb by the end of the ride, usually a Batman hallmark. The ride pulls serious forces, and that's a simple fact. Maybe some don't like its spread out (read: unique and interesting) layout, compared to the Batman and Raptor Invert models, and that's fine, because opinions and preferences are for each, their own. But it's a forceful coaster, just like Millennium Force, and those denying it, are denying science, and physics, as my body a couple weeks ago can attest to.

 

I would not recommend you ride any B&Ms built before 2006, if Banshee makes your feet numb, ones with forces might kill you.

 

 

Nice to know we have a comedian in our midst!

 

Again, if you want to deny science and reality, that's on you, no skin off my back!

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That line for Vortex is crazy. I can't believe how many closet fans this ride had all these years.

 

They aren’t real fans. They are just saying they are fans and that it’s their “number one coaster” because they want attention.

 

Vortex actually is my #1, and it's been that way since I lost the Scream Machine back in 2010 which was previously my #1. I love arrow loopers. To me they aren't rough at all and I absolutely love the old school inversions,especially the loops. Plus with Vortex it combined an awesome first drop, with all my favorite ride elements. I really wish there was a company that still built coaster like arrow. I know there never will be, but I can always hope. For, now I will hold on to hope that both Vipers and the Loch Ness Monster can hold on for awhile longer. Anaconda isn't that great and I know it it's gonna be the next one to go.

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I'll never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever... (well you get the point) understand people who dog on Banshee, or specifically act like it lacks forces. My last rides on it in particular, just a couple of weeks ago, my feet actually were going numb by the end of the ride, usually a Batman hallmark. The ride pulls serious forces, and that's a simple fact. Maybe some don't like its spread out (read: unique and interesting) layout, compared to the Batman and Raptor Invert models, and that's fine, because opinions and preferences are for each, their own. But it's a forceful coaster, just like Millennium Force, and those denying it, are denying science, and physics, as my body a couple weeks ago can attest to.

 

I would not recommend you ride any B&Ms built before 2006, if Banshee makes your feet numb, ones with forces might kill you.

 

 

Nice to know we have a comedian in our midst!

 

Again, if you want to deny science and reality, that's on you, no skin off my back!

 

Thanks for the compliment, but I dropped out of the stand up scene after bookings dried up. At least those thousands of dollars of training at second city can come in handy here. For realz though, I can't find how many G's the ride actually pulls anywhere (likely because it's not marketable when it's like 2 tops). If it's that forceful to you that's great, I just like to *feel* something when I'm on a coaster, and this ride just doesn't do it for me. It's not bad, it's just unmemorable.

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That line for Vortex is crazy. I can't believe how many closet fans this ride had all these years.

 

They aren’t real fans. They are just saying they are fans and that it’s their “number one coaster” because they want attention.

 

Vortex actually is my #1, and it's been that way since I lost the Scream Machine back in 2010 which was previously my #1. I love arrow loopers. To me they aren't rough at all and I absolutely love the old school inversions,especially the loops. Plus with Vortex it combined an awesome first drop, with all my favorite ride elements. I really wish there was a company that still built coaster like arrow. I know there never will be, but I can always hope. For, now I will hold on to hope that both Vipers and the Loch Ness Monster can hold on for awhile longer. Anaconda isn't that great and I know it it's gonna be the next one to go.

 

Coaster hipster alert!

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It was my plan to fly from GRR to CVG. I had it all booked. Spend 8 hours at Kings Island and fly home that night. Well American airlines had other plans with a broken plane. I left my house at 5 am to get to the airport, get through TSA and board the plane at 7. Should have landed just after 10 and been to the park by 11. Nope. After 3 hours waiting in the gate they canceled the flight due the broken plane and I was refunded and went home heart broken. Only bright side is the park looked packed

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I'll never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever... (well you get the point) understand people who dog on Banshee, or specifically act like it lacks forces. My last rides on it in particular, just a couple of weeks ago, my feet actually were going numb by the end of the ride, usually a Batman hallmark. The ride pulls serious forces, and that's a simple fact. Maybe some don't like its spread out (read: unique and interesting) layout, compared to the Batman and Raptor Invert models, and that's fine, because opinions and preferences are for each, their own. But it's a forceful coaster, just like Millennium Force, and those denying it, are denying science, and physics, as my body a couple weeks ago can attest to.

 

I would not recommend you ride any B&Ms built before 2006, if Banshee makes your feet numb, ones with forces might kill you.

 

 

Nice to know we have a comedian in our midst!

 

Again, if you want to deny science and reality, that's on you, no skin off my back!

 

Thanks for the compliment, but I dropped out of the stand up scene after bookings dried up. At least those thousands of dollars of training at second city can come in handy here. For realz though, I can't find how many G's the ride actually pulls anywhere (likely because it's not marketable when it's like 2 tops). If it's that forceful to you that's great, I just like to *feel* something when I'm on a coaster, and this ride just doesn't do it for me. It's not bad, it's just unmemorable.

 

I agree with you, Dil. Banshee is a very solid and overall forceful coaster. What I love about it is that each inversion is the size of the first inversion of a coaster due to the terrain drop. It's like have seven "first loops" in a row! (Well, I guess the zero-g doesn't necessarily count, but whatever)

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I'll never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever... (well you get the point) understand people who dog on Banshee, or specifically act like it lacks forces. My last rides on it in particular, just a couple of weeks ago, my feet actually were going numb by the end of the ride, usually a Batman hallmark. The ride pulls serious forces, and that's a simple fact. Maybe some don't like its spread out (read: unique and interesting) layout, compared to the Batman and Raptor Invert models, and that's fine, because opinions and preferences are for each, their own. But it's a forceful coaster, just like Millennium Force, and those denying it, are denying science, and physics, as my body a couple weeks ago can attest to.

 

I would not recommend you ride any B&Ms built before 2006, if Banshee makes your feet numb, ones with forces might kill you.

 

 

Nice to know we have a comedian in our midst!

 

Again, if you want to deny science and reality, that's on you, no skin off my back!

 

Thanks for the compliment, but I dropped out of the stand up scene after bookings dried up. At least those thousands of dollars of training at second city can come in handy here. For realz though, I can't find how many G's the ride actually pulls anywhere (likely because it's not marketable when it's like 2 tops). If it's that forceful to you that's great, I just like to *feel* something when I'm on a coaster, and this ride just doesn't do it for me. It's not bad, it's just unmemorable.

 

I agree that pre-2006 B&M's are generally more forceful and definitely more snappy, but how do you not feel the force on Banshee? Have you only ridden the thing once or twice? It can be hit or miss, granted, but even on 'slower' days you can still feel it coming out of the batwing through the loop and all the way up the helix until you get to the heartline roll.

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I'll never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever... (well you get the point) understand people who dog on Banshee, or specifically act like it lacks forces. My last rides on it in particular, just a couple of weeks ago, my feet actually were going numb by the end of the ride, usually a Batman hallmark. The ride pulls serious forces, and that's a simple fact. Maybe some don't like its spread out (read: unique and interesting) layout, compared to the Batman and Raptor Invert models, and that's fine, because opinions and preferences are for each, their own. But it's a forceful coaster, just like Millennium Force, and those denying it, are denying science, and physics, as my body a couple weeks ago can attest to.

 

I would not recommend you ride any B&Ms built before 2006, if Banshee makes your feet numb, ones with forces might kill you.

 

 

Nice to know we have a comedian in our midst!

 

Again, if you want to deny science and reality, that's on you, no skin off my back!

 

Thanks for the compliment, but I dropped out of the stand up scene after bookings dried up. At least those thousands of dollars of training at second city can come in handy here. For realz though, I can't find how many G's the ride actually pulls anywhere (likely because it's not marketable when it's like 2 tops). If it's that forceful to you that's great, I just like to *feel* something when I'm on a coaster, and this ride just doesn't do it for me. It's not bad, it's just unmemorable.

 

I agree that pre-2006 B&M's are generally more forceful and definitely more snappy, but how do you not feel the force on Banshee? Have you only ridden the thing once or twice? It can be hit or miss, granted, but even on 'slower' days you can still feel it coming out of the batwing through the loop and all the way up the helix until you get to the heartline roll.

 

Got a back row ride and a front row ride. Was expecting some forces until we hit the brake run. I'll give it another try when I get out there next year for Orion. I'll admit that there was some hangtime in most of the inversions, but there was really nothing for me force-wise. *shrug*

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