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Firehawk was a fun ride, and pretty smooth for an old Vekoma, but I'm sure that whatever replaces it will be worth the trade. If it didn't have the longest wait in the park, I would've gladly ridden it more than once, but decided it wasn't worth another 40-minute wait when Diamondback and Mystic Timbers had 20-minute waits.

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As a big fan of Batwing, I'm sad to see it go before I got a chance to ride it, but I echo everyone else's sentiments that its replacement will likely be worth it.

 

 

But if SFA ever removes Batwing then we have a problem...well then I do at least

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The ride was unique for it's time and a step towards improving the flying concept from it's big brother Stealth.

 

My feels for it being demolished are solely because I worked on it's crew for it's inaugural season as X-Flight at GL (SFWoA at the time). It was a fun and honestly challenging ride to operate compared to your average coaster. A lot of great memories.

 

Onto 2020 however and the hype train for what may be replacing it!

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I liked Firehawk. The flying seats were interesting and different, and it was really relaxing climbing to the top of the lift with your eyes closed. I liked it better than the B&M flyers I've been on.

 

That said, I'm not shedding a tear about it going either. Kings Island has steadily made progress and built new and innovative rides. There will be something good to take its place, may take a few years though. I'm not itching for a new coaster here, tbh. They have a really great lineup as it is.

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I rode Firehawk back in May and thought that it was still running very well. While the original flying dutchman never caught on, I think that in a lot of ways it has certain advantages over B&M's flyers. Its a lot more comfortable to be stuck waiting in the laying down position than on your belly, I think.

 

I prefer facing down while waiting. It's rare I've had to wait long on Manta since most times they are running both stations and only 2 trains when I go. Even when running 3, it's usually not a long wait unless the ride goes down. At least the sun won't be in your face.

 

They were using both stations when I rode Firehawk, so there was no waiting to get off fortunately. However on Nighthawk at Carowinds, with only one station, you'll bake there in the sun while they take forever to unload/load the train in the station. They have a shade structure, but it seems to intensify the heat while laying there on your back which btw causes your head to tilt back some allowing more blood to your head....not fun...lol. That's my experience anyway.

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O'Rourke Wrecking Company posted a video of Firehawk's lift hill being demo'd, on their Facebook page today. They've finished demo on everything to the right of the lift hill, as well as some of the straight sections of track on the left. It's odd to see the loop sitting, untouched, amidst the track fragments that still remain.

 

 

 

Hopefully we will get to see this happen to Nighthawk at Carowinds soon

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Hopefully we will get to see this happen to Nighthawk at Carowinds soon

 

I think Nighthawk’s scrapping would be a much more careful process considering it is surrounded by water and many other rides, whereas Firehawk is practically in a field.

Was Stealth's removal careful too? I mean, I assume it was because it was relocated and completely enclosed by other rides at CGA (well, PGA at the time) but was it a quick process, does anyone know?

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Was Stealth's removal careful too? I mean, I assume it was because it was relocated and completely enclosed by other rides at CGA (well, PGA at the time) but was it a quick process, does anyone know?

 

Nighthawk IS Stealth, it was a relocation, so very careful dismantling and transport.

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Theyre certainly not great, or even very good, but I actually enjoyed the Vekoma flyers. They are certainly more intense than the typical B&M flyer (granted Ive only done 2) and in a way yeah its more comfortable but also not gunna be sad to see it go.

I was gunna ask is there ANY idea what may replace it? I assume the natural hope is a B&M giga I even saw a no limits creation of it which is impressive given far as Iknow....we have 0 idea what will even go there at all

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Personally I don't think Nighthawk is going anywhere.

 

As for Kings Island's next coaster... you know I normally like to be the voice of reason but I feel like enthusiasts are going to get what they want here. I wouldn't be shocked if they end up with a dive machine / wing coaster or something but I feel like a giga is the most likely scenario.

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I'm with William. If CF is as predictable as they have been since the days of i305 I think a giga is the next logical progression. I hope that's the case. I've been crossing my fingers for a few years. I also wouldn't be shocked if they constructed a dive machine. I'm about 70 giga - 30 dive. I don't believe it will be a wing coaster, but it for sure doesn't seem far fetched.

 

There's some decent terrain if they build it where we think they will build it, so it has the potential to be really interesting. Then again, I hope they don't plop it in a big ugly field away from the park like they did with i305. Just keep it the ffck away from The Beast.

 

It figures all of this will unfold when I'm trying to but a baby all up in dat bish.

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I wonder how many people are still in line waiting for it to come back up from mechanical difficulties.

Priceless.

 

I'm still sad that it had to get demo'ed because I liked Firehawk. I wish they could have kept Firehawk and still gotten a new coaster (seems like they have plenty of land that they could have done it) but it's too late now. Hopefully when construction starts on the new B&M it'll make more sense why Firehawk had to go.

 

This just occurred to me, but has anyone thought of the possibility that the new coaster is a B&M flyer? That would cause the Firehawk removal to make even more sense, and it would be something completely different from anything at CP. Just playing devil's advocate, I'm still rooting for a giga.

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While I suspect that that Firehawk was removed primarily because it was a maintenance nuisance, the theory that they removed it because its replacement will be a flyer is an intriguing one. I'd still bet on a giga, but am not opposed to a flyer at all, especially if it's anything like Tatsu, Manta, Starry Sky Ripper or Flying Dinosaur. Although I think flyers are best when they interact with the terrain or are themed heavily, which wouldn't be the case at KI.

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