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Please let it be #MIA2019 It would easily become there 2nd best coaster and there best steel coaster. Come on Cedar Fair throw MIA a bone

 

 

Please, Cedar Fair! Don't just waste a perfectly good coaster that could make the coaster lovers of Michigan very happy!

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Looks like this is the end of another Flying Dutchman. I actually really like these coasters. My only visit to King’s Island was in 2011, and Firehawk was my favorite ride there at that time.

 

So, is this really the end? Or is it new for Dorney Park in 2019?

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Looks like this is the end of another Flying Dutchman. I actually really like these coasters. My only visit to King’s Island was in 2011, and Firehawk was my favorite ride there at that time.

 

So, is this really the end? Or is it new for Dorney Park in 2019?

 

Someone in the Dorney thread claimed one of their employees said it's not going there. Still, I'd love to see it; I still love Firehawk and I'd be that much happier if it just ended up closer to me!

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Personally I wish it was Vortex. That hunk of wasted steel just needs to go.

 

Bummed as this was the first coaster I learned to operate when I was at SFWoA. But time moves on, all rides have a lifespan. Some longer than others. I'll try to stop in on the 21st after a camping trip to get a final ride. If I don't this isn't a huge loss.

 

While I don't think KI would replace a flyer with a flyer so soon it does open up a new option for the 2020 project that has B&M involved. Following this project will be fun.

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It was always exciting when Firehawk was announced for employee ride nights because it would never end up opening and they'd give us Flight of Fear or Racer instead

 

See ya never Firehawk.

 

Carowinds has the best version of the Vekoma Flyer in a much better presentation. The corkscrews make way more sense than the trash-can rolls.

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Hopefully this ends up being relocated, rather than just being cannibalized by Nighthawk (Nighthawk on Fire?)- but parting it would make the most sense. Apart from it's quirks and shitty load/unload time, it's a decent ride.

 

Glad it wasn't one of the Arrows!

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As I figured. Not a huge loss, though I'm surprised they're just scrapping it... I hate seeing any coaster junked needlessly, and I highly doubt Firehawk is really "at the end of its service life". But whatever... I'm sure that's where we'll be seeing expansion in a couple years, and it'll be way better than Firehawk! I'm glad I'll be there tomorrow night, to get one final night ride in!

How do you know they're scrapping it?

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As I figured. Not a huge loss, though I'm surprised they're just scrapping it... I hate seeing any coaster junked needlessly, and I highly doubt Firehawk is really "at the end of its service life". But whatever... I'm sure that's where we'll be seeing expansion in a couple years, and it'll be way better than Firehawk! I'm glad I'll be there tomorrow night, to get one final night ride in!

How do you know they're scrapping it?

 

I don't, though the way it was worded seemed to indicate that. However, I'm really hoping that's not the case!

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Excited to see what they can do with the space back there. Not sad at all to see Firehawk go though, it was the only coaster I wouldn't do. For me it was painful just because of the restraints.

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As I figured. Not a huge loss, though I'm surprised they're just scrapping it... I hate seeing any coaster junked needlessly, and I highly doubt Firehawk is really "at the end of its service life". But whatever... I'm sure that's where we'll be seeing expansion in a couple years, and it'll be way better than Firehawk! I'm glad I'll be there tomorrow night, to get one final night ride in!

How do you know they're scrapping it?

 

I don't, though the way it was worded seemed to indicate that. However, I'm really hoping that's not the case!

Ah, I see... and I feel the same way. When I rode it last June, it was a lot of fun and pretty smooth for a Vekoma. I hope it gets sent to another park.

 

But yeah, I'm glad all of the Arrows are staying, for now.

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While I did enjoy Firehawk, from a ridership perspective it makes the most sense of the rides listed. Plus it could help revitalize the X-Sector area and they have direct access to all that land in the back of the park.

 

I was hoping it would have been Invertigo, but unless they built a parking lot coaster, that wouldn't have opened much space at all.

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I hate seeing any coaster junked needlessly, and I highly doubt Firehawk is really "at the end of its service life". But whatever...

 

I can totally buy that it is. And seeing as it sits in a prime piece of land at the edge of the park, it was prime for removal.

 

There aren't many Flying Dutchmen models around and Vekoma has since upgraded the technology for new generations of it. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if parts are harder to come by for the older models. Batwing at SFA is stated to be closed for the season and Firehawk has had a lot of downtime. To close a ride and scrap it while utilizing the parts to keep Nighthawk going is a pretty good plan.

 

Would I love for it to be a new coaster for Michigan's Adventure? Absolutely (and the last one was a Vekoma too). But, this just makes much more sense!

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I had a feeling it would be Firehawk and I am glad it was. While Vortex may be a headache my son should hit the height requirement for that and The Bat next summer and both of those coasters meant something to me growing up that I wanted to be able to take him on. Glad ill be able to and glad it was Firehawk.

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I'm actually super glad it's Firehawk. Vortex and Bat are just so unique. If you really miss Firehawk, just drive 7 hours to Carowinds. I personally much prefer B&M flyers. Even the Superman clones give more of the flying sensation and are much more re-ride-able. The final helix on Firehawk was really the only part I enjoyed about the ride, the rest of it just didn't feel so much like a flyer.

 

It makes sense, too, given my last post. The operating cost is high, ridership low, paint chipping off, capacity horrible, and land prime. Is there going to be a new coaster there? I could see the park maybe starting a B&M Giga there and wrapping it around toward Action Zone. Or maybe we'll get a ground-up RMC hyper-looper themed after SoB. Or maybe, if my wildest dreams come true, B&M will finally build a 4D coaster

 

I'll just leave that speculation for later.

 

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Kentucky Flyer since the announcement. It looks like the KK thread shut it down pretty quick and I can't help but agree. I don't think KK would put something this big in. It could be possible, though. Shipping costs wouldn't be that high, I guess, and if KI was getting rid of the ride anyway maybe they bought it for cheap. What do you guys think?

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I'm actually super glad it's Firehawk. Vortex and Bat are just so unique. If you really miss Firehawk, just drive 7 hours to Carowinds.

Firehawk >>>>> Nighthawk. Like others, I had no problem with Firehawk and it was actually one of my favorites in the park. I'm not surprised it is the one to go, but I'll still miss it.

 

RIP Firehawk. I hope they don't just scrap it, but I wouldn't be surprised either if that's what happens.

 

All in the name of progress! I'm sure the excitement for whatever is going to happen in 2020 will far outweigh whatever lingering disappointment I feel about Firehawk.

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I'm actually super glad it's Firehawk. Vortex and Bat are just so unique. If you really miss Firehawk, just drive 7 hours to Carowinds.

Firehawk >>>>> Nighthawk. Like others, I had no problem with Firehawk and it was actually one of my favorites in the park. I'm not surprised it is the one to go, but I'll still miss it.

 

RIP Firehawk. I hope they don't just scrap it, but I wouldn't be surprised either if that's what happens.

 

All in the name of progress! I'm sure the excitement for whatever is going to happen in 2020 will far outweigh whatever lingering disappointment I feel about Firehawk.

 

Maybe its an unpopular opinion. I've never ridden Nighthawk so I can't tell you if it is as good as Firehawk or not. I just much prefer B&M flyers to Flying Dutchmans. Of the three flyers I've ridden; Tatsu, Firehawk, and Superman:UF, Firehawk did the least for me. I definitely enjoyed it every time I visited KI and it was a nice touch to the park, but it never really felt like a "real" flyer to me.

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I'm making the trip this weekend. Batwing never opened for me in any of my SFA visits this year, the weather should be nice, and it's my birthday weekend.

 

I'm pretty sad about the possibility of Firehawk getting scrapped when one of the lower-tier parks could use it. Still glad it's not Vortex, which would most definitely be scrapped and not relocated, and whose plot would probably lend itself to a dive machine knowing that it would be B&M.

 

Maybe its an unpopular opinion. I've never ridden Nighthawk so I can't tell you if it is as good as Firehawk or not. I just much prefer B&M flyers to Flying Dutchmans. Of the three flyers I've ridden; Tatsu, Firehawk, and Superman:UF, Firehawk did the least for me. I definitely enjoyed it every time I visited KI and it was a nice touch to the park, but it never really felt like a "real" flyer to me.

Which Superman? The original installation at Over Georgia blew away the clone at Great Adventure because it was built with the terrain, greatly enhancing the sense of flight.

 

My flying coaster rankings so far: Tatsu > Superman SFoG > Batwing > Nighthawk = Superman SFGAdv.

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