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Someone from RMC was seen over by Racer; at least I seem to remember that from a few pages back. Could this be RMC racer? The bottom says "track 2 is no longer in use." Maybe a Twisted Colossus sort of deal?

 

The track 2 part is a direct quote from the audio on Adventure Express. I doubt it has anything to do with the Racer.

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"Plan on bringing Number 5 back in service once again"

 

Purely conjecture but what if #5 is referring to the fact that SOB was (un-officially) the 5th coaster the park built if you take into consideration that Racer is One of Two coasters. IOW...

 

Racer #1-#2

Scooby Doo #3 (I know, old school name)

Beast #4

SOB #5

 

Just throwing it out there, but could we be seeing an SOB ground-up RMC?

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My son and I just returned from a two-day trip to KI and had a great time.

 

In a lot of ways, I enjoyed it more than CP. Obviously the lineup at CP is better - but this park just seemed to have a better feel to it.

 

I'll leave out most of the details and just give a few opinions:

 

1) we LOVED the Beast at night - holy crap that is insane, the right amount of roughness and felt out of control - excellent - we finished both nights with rides on this coaster

 

2) Mystic Timbers - our favorite ride at the park - fun, crazy, air, twisty, and the shed - a great experience all the way around

 

3) Banshee - the front is great, but the back is where it's at - especially down that first drop

 

4) Racer - please just tear that thing down - wow that was rough and unpleasant - one and done for us

 

5) Operations - some of the best I've ever seen outside of DIsney - just incredible - for example, on Banshee - they were calling out 'zero-g-check' meaning they wanted to have the entire train locked and checked by the time the train in front had gone through the zero-g and in many cases were sending trains out well before the second vertical loop. Even on many of the smaller coasters and flats - the same, quick operations were present - and well appreciated.

 

6) Operations Part 2 - one day we didn't have FL+, the second day we did, and though we probably didn't need it - it still did cut those 20 minute waits into less than 5. I liked the fact that you got to the station on coasters as opposed to some random meeting point back in the line (think MF at CP) and the groupers at the station were all excellent keeping the trains filled and having a good balance of FL vs. general line.

 

There were many more things we enjoyed - it made for a great trip - my first time at the park in over 30 years and my son's first trip - we will definitely be back.

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It is far too early and there is far too little information to possibly start getting all excited about a reborn Son of Beast.

 

That would be stupid. Beyond premature. Absolutely idiotic.

 

OHGODS PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME PLEASE NEW SON OF BEAST PLEASE COME ON RMC SON OF BEAST I DESERVE IT WE ALL DO PLEASE

 

*ahem*

 

Yeah, would be a silly thing to even think about.

 

...please?

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I'm not saying I am expecting it to happen, but how awesome would it be to have an "RMC Beast"? Yeah, yeah, I know, "It's too much of a classic legend to change!", "They better not change such a historic coaster", etc., but considering what a new legend it would become I think it would be hard to miss the "original Beast", especially when it would then be without constant straightaways and trims.

 

Something that I think would be awesome for the giant helix after the second lift is to bank the whole thing at a steeper angle, making the first high point be outward-banked, and the second high point basically be a high-speed and forceful inclined loop. Even if that never happens, it's just as fun to imagine it!

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Beast seems to be one of the most popular rides in the park. It's the only ride where I actually have to occasionally wait with the FL+. Beast isn't going anywhere and it won't be changed.

 

I actually don't expect much from the teaser.

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I'm still patiently waiting for a giga. But, for some reason I have a feeling it will always be the long rumored addition that never happens.

 

I agree. In fact, there are probably five other coaster types I would rather see at KI before a giga. Kings Island fills a lot of gaps in nearby Cedar Point's lineup, and vice versa, so unless they build a totally unique giga coaster that really sets it apart from Millennium Force, I just can't see it happening. At least not soon.

 

If we're talking coasters, despite them getting two major ones in the last 5 years, I would really like to see something like Time Traveler, or maybe even a high-capacity version of HangTime with a vertical lift and beyond vertical drop. Kings Island has a very diverse lineup with lots of solid supporting coasters (unlike CW and Carowinds), so I don't think a giga is quite as "necessary" as it was at those parks.

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I haven't been on Mystic Timbers, but my thing with KI when I went was that all of their good major coasters are kinda lacking in intensity. Diamondback and Banshee are more of chill rides, and Beast is about going really f*cking fast through straight or slightly banked track through the woods.

 

This isn't really something the general audiences of the park care about, though, so the next addition will just be whatever the park and corporate decide to add and what will keep people going to KI. I talk to people from the Indiana/Ohio/Kentucky area a lot and a very surprising number of them absolutely swear by Kings Island, over CP and other parks in that area that they've been to.

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Before another coaster is built I'd like to see the Racer get a full refurb first, especially after my one ride on the red train a few weeks ago. Now that we're already past the halfway point of the season they have a little over three years before the park's big 50th anniversary and bringing Racer back to its original glory (including bringing back the red, white, and blue paint scheme the ride opened with) would be awesome.

 

One other note - Kings Island NEEDS more flat rides outside of Planet Snoopy. Carowinds and Canada's Wonderland should not be the only parks to get decent flat ride packages.

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Will anybody be at Kings Island on Wednesday or next Sunday? Hopefully it doesn't rain again. We've only been able to go 3 times this year so far and it's kind of disappointing that every time I have a day off it tends to rain/storm. I'm needing some more rides in and a couple more waterpark visits before the season is over.

I've stated before that I think it would be nice to have some sort of water coaster in the waterpark even though it wouldn't compare to Wildebeest and Mammoth at HW. The dry park needs a tilt a whirl at some point. Those are my favorite flat rides at a theme park.

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I haven't been on Mystic Timbers, but my thing with KI when I went was that all of their good major coasters are kinda lacking in intensity. Diamondback and Banshee are more of chill rides, and Beast is about going really f*cking fast through straight or slightly banked track through the woods.

I completely agree. The park’s collection of coasters is solid, however nothing at that park really blew me away aside from Beast and Mystic Timbers. The rest of their rides are kinda “bleh” to me.

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I wouldn't say bleh.

 

KI has awesome coasters, but their top 3 (again, I think Timbers probably counters this to some extent) are not intense rides at all. The most "intense" coaster at KI is probably Flight of Fear.

 

I'm using the dumb nerdy enthusiast definition of intensity and not just "it's tall and fast" for this because honestly, KI's lineup is pretty great and would be fine without ANY new coasters. But what I'd personally look for in a new coaster is fast pace and strong forces because that's something they're kind of lacking in.

 

Just as a point of reference (that's hard to compare ANYTHING to, but whatever) CP has Raptor, TTD, SV, and Maverick in the high intensity department and MF, Rougarou, Valravn, and GateKeeper in the more chill department. At a smaller scale, SDC has an insanely balanced lineup in that regard and they have half the coasters that KI does.

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I wasnt overly thrilled by Diamondback, but Banshee was plenty intense. I thought the speed and positive Gs it carried though the bottom of the elements was impressive.

 

Invertigo, FoF, Diamondback, Vortex, and Firehawk provide a second tier of intensity.

 

It doesn't have a Skyrush or SV, but I find KI to have a well rounded, quality collection top to bottom that isn't lacking for intensity. Just my opinion.

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Almost included Bat on my list and should have...its been a long time since I've been on it, as I didn't get it last time I went. Definitely remember it being worthy of mentioning in this discussion though.

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It's all subjective, but I think the majority of the non coaster enthusiasts consider Diamondback, Banshee, and Mystic Timbers pretty intense. I'd hate to be the type of enthusiast that needs more than that to consider a ride fun, thrilling, and intense. I'm not quite sure when 230 feet at 80 mph became obsolete, but I'm glad I haven't moved on. Then again, I may focus too much on enjoyment and appreciation rather than comparison. In a world where Millennium Force is lame I guess King's Island sucks.

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^ I'm with you there. Diamondback is still one of the tallest and fastest in the world. I could look up which spot it's in, but I don't care and neither do you. Point is it's plenty exciting. A lot of the reason why I like hypers and gigas is that they do the stuff I expect from a coaster: They go up and down real fast. It's kind of fun to ride the coasters that do bizarre things, but there's a reason most coasters still just go up and down real fast. People love that.

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