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p. 792 - Camp Cedar campground to open in 2021!

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^The reason fast lane looks like that is this.......Kings Island was running a promotion where if you renewed your season pass, you got a free fast lane to use on a Sunday in October this year. Makes for horrible lines.

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Today is one of the worst visits we have ever had at Kings Island. I'll get into it more later, but to start with the food operations, ride operators, and total disregard for trying to put any effort into a job.

 

Fast lane is even pointless. This is the fast lane for the beast.

 

I agree food operations have been way down this year. I have never seen Kings Island's food lines as long as they have been this year, and the worker's themselves seem ruder than ever. I don't eat in the park often, but when I did decide to this year, it was a horrible experience. Should have stuck with my gut and continue to eat outside the park or just go home and eat.

 

On the flip side, not to make excuses for the park, but I do think they had staffing issues this season. I seen/heard a number of different ads all season long that the park was hiring, and during the first week of Haunt KI's sign noted that they were hiring for food/beverage specifically. Hopefully whatever issues they had this year, we won't see next year.

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I doubt it will get much better, that's one of the only things I hear people complain much about with the park. I think they do know its a problem from them advertising as much as they do about where they need to hire. This year they said there was higher wages then last year.

 

Btw Mystic Timbers is looking good!

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Yes they have had staffing issues. They were offering higher pay then they usually do to try to bring people in. While at haunt a couple weeks back the lady working the door of Slaughter House mentioned that they need 30-40 people for Field of Screams and they were struggling because so many people quit. They were down to 20-22 that Friday I was there.

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On the flip side, not to make excuses for the park, but I do think they had staffing issues this season. I seen/heard a number of different ads all season long that the park was hiring, and during the first week of Haunt KI's sign noted that they were hiring for food/beverage specifically. Hopefully whatever issues they had this year, we won't see next year.

 

Yeah as a rides operator i can say this. from August till the park closes the numbers on crews and numbers for the day go down as associates go back to school. I cant speak for food, but us ride operators are still trying to give the guests (and the theme park enthusiasts) the best day ever, even if we are understaffed or pissed off//tired.

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Yes they have had staffing issues. They were offering higher pay then they usually do to try to bring people in. While at haunt a couple weeks back the lady working the door of Slaughter House mentioned that they need 30-40 people for Field of Screams and they were struggling because so many people quit. They were down to 20-22 that Friday I was there.

 

Staffing in the houses, or lack thereof, was very noticeable this year. When I went through Field of Screams, I actually thought to myself that it was just a maze without any actors in it. We didn't come across our first actor until over half way through the maze.

 

I know when I worked at Haunt, as the season goes on staffing get's worse and worse. I have never seen it start off bad though.

On the flip side, not to make excuses for the park, but I do think they had staffing issues this season. I seen/heard a number of different ads all season long that the park was hiring, and during the first week of Haunt KI's sign noted that they were hiring for food/beverage specifically. Hopefully whatever issues they had this year, we won't see next year.

 

 

 

Yeah as a rides operator i can say this. from August till the park closes the numbers on crews and numbers for the day go down as associates go back to school. I cant speak for food, but us ride operators are still trying to give the guests (and the theme park enthusiasts) the best day ever, even if we are understaffed or pissed off//tired.

 

I have not had any issues with the ride operators at the park this season, every time I have been, they have been very polite and relatively quick...which is all I can ask for.

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I just bought tickets and am heading to the park Saturday. For what was essentially my home park growing up this will be my first visit in 7 years so I'm pretty excited. I was considering a Fast Lane but the more I thought about it the only rides I really care about riding are Banshee (new and haven't been on it yet),The Beast and maybe Flight of Fear. Still might get a Fast Lane (we're only going early during the day) so may just play it by ear based on the crowd.

 

The water rides aren't open during the fall right, not even the Log Flume? Not that I want to ride the flume in 50 degree weather but I'm sure the kids will. The kids Halloween stuff sounds pretty good online so looking forward to checking that out with the little ones.

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No Diamondback? No Bat? Man, you're missing out.

 

Not that I want to ride the flume in 50 degree weather

 

... amateur. Also yes, the Log Flume will be open for the fun people in your group.

 

Oh if the flume is open I will be on it. Whitewater Canyon not so much......

 

Correction, I want to ride everything I possible can but the little ones are taking priority in my old age thus the appraoch to the park must be selective and strategic. I should have said Banshee, Beast, and Flight of Fear are my priories because they are the best things there. Diamondback was pretty meh for me back in 09 and 10, like a bigger faster worse version of Goliath. I kind of forgot about Top Gun (it'll always be Top Gun to me!), but I'll defiantly have to check that one out again, rides in the back car used to be a blast.

 

Also, side note but this is more or less my first trip to a non-Disney/Seaworld park with the little ones and I was kind of surprised at the height restrictions for some of the rides there. I get that they have an awesome kids section in Planet Snoopy with all kinds of rides for really little kids but for intermediate age/height kids the selection is pretty thin. Adventure Express and Italian Job (#NeverForget) are both 48" height requirement which kind of seems absurd but oh well.

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White Water Canyon is closed for construction regardless,even if they wanted to open it, the reservoir is drained to build the bridge structure and part of the trough is filled in elsewhere to make a "bridge" for equipment.

 

Congo Falls should be open though, too.

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Congo Falls should be open though, too.

 

That P.O.S. needs to stop existing. It's ugly and it sucks.

 

But. . . We actually enjoyed Congo Falls during our visits to the park. . . The airtime on the first drop in the back row is crazy awesome. . . However, it only gets you slightly moist which is disappointing for a splash down ride like that.

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Also, side note but this is more or less my first trip to a non-Disney/Seaworld park with the little ones and I was kind of surprised at the height restrictions for some of the rides there. I get that they have an awesome kids section in Planet Snoopy with all kinds of rides for really little kids but for intermediate age/height kids the selection is pretty thin. Adventure Express and Italian Job (#NeverForget) are both 48" height requirement which kind of seems absurd but oh well.

Honestly this is a problem with Cedar Fair parks in general. Anything that looks like a "big" coaster gets slapped with a 48" requirement. Never mind the fact that tons of other places you can go on an Arrow mine train or wooden coaster running PTC trains at 44" or even 42". Height requirement inconsistency is just one of those things that you have to get used to when you have little ones in tow.

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However, it only gets you slightly moist which is disappointing for a splash down ride like that.

 

My thoughts on splash mountain is like this.

 

 

The water rides aren't open during the fall right, not even the Log Flume? Not that I want to ride the flume in 50 degree weather but I'm sure the kids will.

 

We stay open unless: a) to cold (which hasn't happened this season ) or b)not enough riders. Grant it we close down for the night around 8-9-10 somewhere around there but be sure to say hi if you see matt anywhere in the evening! he could be at flume, linus launcher, diamondback, beast, banshee or vortex also take my advice, if you plan on riding alot of the big rides (yes i know youll have the little ones), buy fastlane, HAUNT SATURDAYS ARE THE WORST TO GO TRUST ME.

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Remember the good old days when Adventure Express and Racer were 44" height requirements. I talked to a lady who worked in GR the year it went from 44" to 48" and she said there was lots of madness since their 44" child didn't grow 4" in a year. They could no longer ride a coaster they were tall enough the previous year.

 

I have 5 kids and height requirements are so inconsistent. Camden Park's Big Dipper launched my kid on that first drop and there really wasn't an enforced height limit. It was awesome. Some Wild Mouse coasters are 42" some 44" some 46" and a very few 48". Same thing with White Water Canyon rides. KI is actually one of the more strict heights at 46". Many are 42" or 44". I could go on all day about height issues. Another item that is upsetting is the two height stations at KI are not the same. The one in the front with the swinging arm is the best. I found that most of the measuring station at the rides are taller than the station in the front. White Water is almost an inch difference and that is a bummer when you don't get the 46" bracelet from the front. It is a long round trip walk back to get the bracelet.

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Height limits are not always the park's fault. Sometimes it's manufacturer policy, and sometimes it's due to someone falling off/getting injured on a ride in throwadartatamapistan that changes the safety rules and guidelines everywhere. While on occasion it is the park's decision to have a shorter height limit, most of the time it's based on ride type & manufacturer. Like how most B&M coasters have a 54" requirement but Intamins only a 48". Now it doesn't seem fair if a kid could ride the uber intense speed demon that is TTD at CP but not the I can take a nap on this ride that is Gatekeeper?

 

And as a ride op that worked a 52" requirement ride, I'm looking at these kids everyday that can ride everything else in the park but my ride. I don't know what's worse in those cases: the sad look on the child's face, or the anger in the parent's voice.

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I have 5 kids and height requirements are so inconsistent. Camden Park's Big Dipper launched my kid on that first drop and there really wasn't an enforced height limit. It was awesome. Some Wild Mouse coasters are 42" some 44" some 46" and a very few 48". Same thing with White Water Canyon rides. KI is actually one of the more strict heights at 46". Many are 42" or 44". I could go on all day about height issues. Another item that is upsetting is the two height stations at KI are not the same. The one in the front with the swinging arm is the best. I found that most of the measuring station at the rides are taller than the station in the front. White Water is almost an inch difference and that is a bummer when you don't get the 46" bracelet from the front. It is a long round trip walk back to get the bracelet.

 

Coming from someone who has evolved their rides department from the old head against the height board, to L-shaped height sticks, and now converting to "slide gauge" measuring devices, I understand your longing for consistency. The best height stations either have the mounted swiveling bar, or slide gauge (I got the idea from Busch Gardens Tampa). For the swivel bars, it is either contact or no contact to determine if someone can ride; simple. For a slide gauge the gauge needs to be in the green or whatever appropriate color to be able to ride. I am converting to slide gauges because they always make contact and the gauge will show exactly where they stand. There is no agrument how well a bar hit the head, or lack thereof.

 

I personally do not like Kings Island's white height sticks with a colored ring around them. Not having something that is precise like a bar or a gauge that will make contact with a rider's head will open the door for how well a ride operator compares head height to line. Measuring humans is far from easy in some cases, but there are tools out there to make the judgment more accurate.

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Walibi Holland had a measurement device, that was built into a thing that looked a lot

like those "body dryers" they have near the exits of some water rides.

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Seemed to work fast enough to "measure" the kids. Sept.12, 2015.

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