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P. 829: Adventure Port themed area announced for 2023!

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Let me make something very clear I did not use the coordinates from the blueprints. So I could still be wrong but so much lines up it makes sense to me. But I believe I have the orientation mostly correct due to the earlier video. But I could be off on scaling, or placement.

 

Having said that lets look at how it lines up with what is going on and where existing buildings and rides are. On Sunday I saw a line of stakes down the banks where I show the ride crossing the water. Several of the zone lines appear to line up with the train tracks, I am likely a little off on this. The section where the two sides are together are where it crosses WWC. The two boxes on this section of track are where it crosses the WWC line. The sections of track where the lines are farther apart is likely the sections where the airtime hills are. These line up with the train tracks and maintenance road. Does not touch the log flume. So is this actually correct? No clue, sorry.

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Your scale looks incredibly huge. That ride drwarfs Diamondback and The Beast. It looks like the station is at least double the size of The Beast station.

 

Also, your video is still private only.

 

I did not post the video, it was public when I posted the link.

 

Basically your totally wrong. That is around 4000 ft of total track, you can measure it on google maps. The station in my picture is actually smaller than the station for The Beast. I can copy the station for The Beast out of the larger image and put it next to the station or overlay it on top if you need more proof.

 

The larger building in Zone 1A is the maintenance building. The station is the smaller of the two.

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Is there a chance we are looking at that GCI-esque layout wrong, and that instead it runs parallel to the log ride? I'm trying to use Prowler as a scale model and it almost seems like it fits better orientated that direction.

 

Here's a mock-up I did before really scrutinizing scales.

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Spent yesterday at the park and from the clearing I saw from the train this looks closer to how it will run. But needs rotated so the straight section is between the train tracks and WWC. Almost all of the trees between the WWC's station and the train tracks are gone as well as all of the trees between WWC's lake/pond and the train tracks... Seems as if the coaster will run right between the 2 attractions.

 

 

 

EDIT: Something like this... forgive the horrible photoshop job, I rushed it... But you can see how it would wrap around the storage shed for the trains and also if you look at the bents that are in the blueprints it looks like there could be an opening in them where the tracks pass just south of the train storage shed that seem to line up about right.

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I decided to spend about 5 minutes and put this together. For anyone who doubts the size of the attraction. This just shows the Racer next to the ride and the station for The Beast next to what I believe to be the station for the new attraction. The goal is just to add a sense of scale. The orientation of the new attraction is close to correct since a video from earlier today which is no longer public shows which direction north is on the layout. Scale could be off. But for anyone who thinks this is too large, how small do you think the ride will be?

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That's the plan. At least, once the sun stops being so stubborn and actually decides to go down lol

 

It's tough this time of year. You have to get in line late enough that it'll be dark but early enough that you can wait for the front. Hopefully you can do it.

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Luckily it's cloudy and the park closes at 10

 

Firehawk took surprise worst ride of the day. Uncomfortable, awkward, not really that interesting. I liked Vortex a lot more than I thought I would. It had a good pace, fun inversions, and wasn't really all that rough or jerky.

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Luckily it's cloudy and the park closes at 10

 

Firehawk took surprise worst ride of the day. Uncomfortable, awkward, not really that interesting. I liked Vortex a lot more than I thought I would. It had a good pace, fun inversions, and wasn't really all that rough or jerky.

 

As a warning The Beast closes about 30 minutes early for the fireworks then reopens about 30 minutes after the fireworks to for everyone who was in line to ride. On the plus side most of the park is empty at that point so it is a nice pleasant walk through an empty park.

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Spent yesterday at the park and from the clearing I saw from the train this looks closer to how it will run. But needs rotated so the straight section is between the train tracks and WWC. Almost all of the trees between the WWC's station and the train tracks are gone as well as all of the trees between WWC's lake/pond and the train tracks... Seems as if the coaster will run right between the 2 attractions.

 

EDIT: Something like this... forgive the horrible photoshop job, I rushed it... But you can see how it would wrap around the storage shed for the trains and also if you look at the bents that are in the blueprints it looks like there could be an opening in them where the tracks pass just south of the train storage shed that seem to line up about right.

 

I like the way the first drop wraps around the pond, and the way the track converges where the train approaches WWC.

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Spent yesterday at the park and from the clearing I saw from the train this looks closer to how it will run. But needs rotated so the straight section is between the train tracks and WWC. Almost all of the trees between the WWC's station and the train tracks are gone as well as all of the trees between WWC's lake/pond and the train tracks... Seems as if the coaster will run right between the 2 attractions.

 

EDIT: Something like this... forgive the horrible photoshop job, I rushed it... But you can see how it would wrap around the storage shed for the trains and also if you look at the bents that are in the blueprints it looks like there could be an opening in them where the tracks pass just south of the train storage shed that seem to line up about right.

 

I like the way the first drop wraps around the pond, and the way the track converges where the train approaches WWC.

 

 

Also, The lack of bents on the lift portion of the blueprint would make since because with my positioning the lift goes right over the pond... So if that happens we may see a lift on this like what RMC did with Goliath at SFGA.

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Your scale looks incredibly huge. That ride drwarfs Diamondback and The Beast. It looks like the station is at least double the size of The Beast station.

 

Also, your video is still private only.

 

I did not post the video, it was public when I posted the link.

 

Basically your totally wrong. That is around 4000 ft of total track, you can measure it on google maps. The station in my picture is actually smaller than the station for The Beast. I can copy the station for The Beast out of the larger image and put it next to the station or overlay it on top if you need more proof.

 

The larger building in Zone 1A is the maintenance building. The station is the smaller of the two.

 

I agree that the scale is entirely too big. The first images you posted that kept the coaster inside the railroad tracks is much more likely to be closer to the real thing. There is a photo of Prowler posted on page 1344 that shows that Prowler is similar in size to the railroad tracks next to it. Use the Kings Island railroad tracks as a general guide for scale. Also, when I saw the clearing a few weeks ago, the clearing was very close to the tracks right behind the train depot. I am wondering if the first drop is closer to that as well.

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Firehawk took surprise worst ride of the day. Uncomfortable, awkward, not really that interesting. I liked Vortex a lot more than I thought I would. It had a good pace, fun inversions, and wasn't really all that rough or jerky.

100% agreed on both of your assessments here. Enjoyed the heck out of Vortex, probably won't ever ride Firehawk again.

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Lets try youtube again.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv3LreHKZB8

 

This video is from the same poster as the previous video. Starting around the 15 second mark you will see a better view of the overview and part of the exploded view. The important part is that you will see a north arrow on the drawing which will allow you to orient the coaster. At 56 seconds into the video is shot of the plans with the coordinates of the footers in the section of the ride which is highlighted in the overview.

 

EDIT: I was looking at the video and I just realized the drawing says North Abutment Plan. That means the highlighted section of the layout is the north end of a bridge. Likely the north end of the bridge across the water.

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Alrighty. After reading KIC and looking over the available information on the drawing. Here is where I am at now. This is assuming the station size is similar to The Beast, and uses the pond and Diamondback to help locate the ride "within" the train loop.

 

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^To me, that seems needlessly far back off the beaten path... I would think they'd want to at least have it somewhere close to the pathway, to build excitement. But then again, KI is already known for its mysterious wooden coaster out in the woods, so why not have another, lurking back in the trees! There would be an incredibly long queue/walkway, just to get to the station from the clearing already made on the main path, but again, they have that already with the rapids ride, so it's not inconceivable...

 

One thing I keep coming back to, that I know nobody wants to think about (or mock up...) They sure made it sound like RFYLCB is going to be getting removed after this season, so unless that was simply a red herring, I am still of the opinion that they will be removing that, and placing the station, and lift hill portion of the ride, where that is currently located. I hope they keep it, and I love the idea of the new wooden coaster being hidden in the woods! I just wonder if we're trying too hard NOT to acknowledge the flume may leave... (Don't kill me coasterbill! It's an honest observations! )

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