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The only problem I see with KI getting a Giga coaster is Cedar Point being 3 hours away. From a locals perspective, yes, the park could likely support one. From a business perspective however, taking away from Millennium Force at their flagship park and undermining it with a bigger Giga 3 hours away is bad business. We'll see what happens, Banshee was a great addition and there's many things the park can add besides a Giga also.

Well both Banshee and Diamondback are bigger than Raptor and Magnum so I don't see how KI getting a giga bigger than MF would hurt. Plus CP still has TTD so they are still the king of height in Ohio.

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So myself and a few friends are thinking about making a trip to the park on May 16th. Its a bout a 5 hour drive for us, so we would come in Sunday night, get a hotel and then visit Monday the 16th. I checked the website and there doesn't seem to be any events or anything going on for that date, but was curious if anyone knew how busy the park might be that day for its first Monday of the season... wasn't sure if that may be a big school event day or anything like that...

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Didn't Banshee only raise attendance by like 1%?

 

Obviously I haven't seen the numbers and I'm not pretending to be an expert but if that's true I don't understand why they'd choose to invest that type of money in a large coaster when putting it elsewhere in the chain would probably have a bigger impact on attendance.

 

Just curious...

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There was recently some Gold colored track spotted at the B&M plant in Batavia...........Could be going anywhere.........

It's probably going overseas. B&M doesn't start making track for American parks this early in the year.

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Didn't Banshee only raise attendance by like 1%?

 

Obviously I haven't seen the numbers and I'm not pretending to be an expert but if that's true I don't understand why they'd choose to invest that type of money in a large coaster when putting it elsewhere in the chain would probably have a bigger impact on attendance.

 

Just curious...

 

 

I think a big coaster like Fury would boost attendance more than anything. every time I talk to people around here they like Diamondback better than Banshee and point to the drop and hills. I don't often hear from people saying that Banshee is their favorite in the park.

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That may be true Superbatboy, but you're talking comparing historical rides to the new ones. I visited KI for the first time last year, I had a good time. I wanted to ride The Beast at night, and ride Banshee. Diamondback is fun, but there's nothing unique about it compared to other Hyper-coasters except maybe the seats which actually slow down the load times some.

 

With that being said, KI is a good park, but it is the little brother of CP and it's going to remain that way. There's great potential at the park and I really thought it looked nice and I enjoyed my visit; but I was in Ohio to visit CP. I've got 3 planned trips to fly up from Texas this year to visit CP, none of those trips include a return to KI this year. I thought Banshee was great and felt it was very well done, however; whenever I tell friends who love roller coasters the place to go, you have to tell them CP if you're from coming the distance that I do. You just get much more out of it than you would just about anywhere else. SFGADV gives CP a run because of El Toro and a few others (I'm on the TTD is better than Kingda Ka boat) but it doesn't quite do it.

 

I also went to KD for I-305 last year, it was a great ride and a blast, but when you compare it to the rest of the park after Volcano, you don't have a whole lot for a few days of stay. It's just the way it is; I see big things and expansions for KI that will make it a blip on the screen for visits on return trips to Ohio; but the GP needs to respond for it to happen. If CoasterBill is right and 1% was all the attendance increased...that's not going to cut it.

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The only problem I see with KI getting a Giga coaster is Cedar Point being 3 hours away. From a locals perspective, yes, the park could likely support one. From a business perspective however, taking away from Millennium Force at their flagship park and undermining it with a bigger Giga 3 hours away is bad business. We'll see what happens, Banshee was a great addition and there's many things the park can add besides a Giga also.

 

Cedar Point and Kings Island may be three hours apart, but they have different markets. A significant portion of Cedar Point's attendance comes from Michigan (because the 5-6 million people in Metro Detroit can make a day trip out of it), while Kings Island draws significantly from Kentucky and southern Indiana for the same reason. Since traveling further is a nuisance for a day trip, those portions of the GP tend to stick to those parks for the majority of their coaster-based desires. While a giga at Kings Island would certainly create competition within Ohio, it wouldn't be detrimental to attendance. As for people further than that? Cedar Point has the longstanding reputation and the beach-side resort that make it the obvious choice between the two.

 

Long story short: I doubt Cedar Fair is worried that Kings Island will cannibalize Cedar Point.

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The only problem I see with KI getting a Giga coaster is Cedar Point being 3 hours away. From a locals perspective, yes, the park could likely support one. From a business perspective however, taking away from Millennium Force at their flagship park and undermining it with a bigger Giga 3 hours away is bad business. We'll see what happens, Banshee was a great addition and there's many things the park can add besides a Giga also.

 

Cedar Point and Kings Island may be three hours apart, but they have different markets. A significant portion of Cedar Point's attendance comes from Michigan (because the 5-6 million people in Metro Detroit can make a day trip out of it), while Kings Island draws significantly from Kentucky and southern Indiana for the same reason. Since traveling further is a nuisance for a day trip, those portions of the GP tend to stick to those parks for the majority of their coaster-based desires. While a giga at Kings Island would certainly create competition within Ohio, it wouldn't be detrimental to attendance. As for people further than that? Cedar Point has the longstanding reputation and the beach-side resort that make it the obvious choice between the two.

 

Long story short: I doubt Cedar Fair is worried that Kings Island will cannibalize Cedar Point.

 

I agree with you 100%. However, that was not the case during the paramount years.

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So myself and a few friends are thinking about making a trip to the park on May 16th. Its a bout a 5 hour drive for us, so we would come in Sunday night, get a hotel and then visit Monday the 16th. I checked the website and there doesn't seem to be any events or anything going on for that date, but was curious if anyone knew how busy the park might be that day for its first Monday of the season... wasn't sure if that may be a big school event day or anything like that...

 

Long story short, you should be fine that day. There may be school groups but they tend to thin out as the day goes on. The only thing to note is that some of the rides may not be operating early in the day for staffing reasons. Backlot seems to be the coaster that often falls into that category.

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So myself and a few friends are thinking about making a trip to the park on May 16th. Its a bout a 5 hour drive for us, so we would come in Sunday night, get a hotel and then visit Monday the 16th. I checked the website and there doesn't seem to be any events or anything going on for that date, but was curious if anyone knew how busy the park might be that day for its first Monday of the season... wasn't sure if that may be a big school event day or anything like that...

 

Long story short, you should be fine that day. There may be school groups but they tend to thin out as the day goes on. The only thing to note is that some of the rides may not be operating early in the day for staffing reasons. Backlot seems to be the coaster that often falls into that category.

Thanks for the info. My biggest concern was school crowds and long wait times, but thats why we're picking a Monday. I figure ride ops would be shorthanded and the possibility of rides opening throughout the day is a possibility. The only rides I havent ridden yet are Banshee and Windseeker, so Im not too concerned if we miss a few.

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I hate April Fools Day

 

 

Same.

 

It was funny when I saw this from the first 6,000 parks.

 

I don't think I ever thought it was funny. . . Just annoying. And Now I'm just like... "Oh look... Another one. " It's almost as bad as this:

in every other thread.
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Great picture! I wonder if the logo has lights behind it? Does Carowinds light up at their toll gate? That would look really neat if it did, but even if it doesn't, it still looks great! Looking forward to the pics from Saturday and Sunday when you go!

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I know i may post to many (or edit my posts) to show pictures and info about what I find out. Sorry if its annoying. Just dont know how else to get the word to you guys.

 

 

 

Anyways KI just posted a new picture on their Instagram and it shows the new entrance for WWC. Well there will neither be a bridge over the tracks or a tunnel underneath the tracks to get to WWC. Instead there will be..............................................................A crossing!

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Photo cred to Kings Islands instagram

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The toll plaza is looking really nice! Ill be at the Great Wolf on saturday and sunday and ill grab some pics of Tropical Plunge and anything else!

 

 

I thought Great Wolf was the hotel just next to KI that got demolished? The one with the indoor water park. Which hotel was that?

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