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p. 792 - Camp Cedar campground to open in 2021!

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^ I get that but we are also shooting for 50 plus coaster rides that day. Is there a chance to marathon Banshee and get in 20 rides on it without FL+? Banshee is about my only concern if we can get in a bunch of rides. Two years ago when we were there around the same time we certainly didn't need a FL. Everything in the park was a walk on. One of the guys going this year absolutely loves inverts so we will be getting as many rides as possible on Banshee.

 

Banshee will be the least of your worries. Even on weekends, the line drops under 15 minutes after about 2 pm.

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Made my third trip of the season today and it was a great day at some parts, strange at others...

 

First and foremost... Invertigo is up and running again, though it did have some downtime today. Also, It has been confirmed, Chick-Fil-a AND Panda Express are part of the meal plan. I don't know about the other Cedar Fair parks, but at KI they are. Beware of the Orange Chicken at Panda... it's a bit spicy.

 

Now for the strange: While standing in line for Monster, the ride was operating and all of a sudden we heard glass break, apparently, a sweep got just close enough to the ground where a light bulb hit and broke. The ride op went over and swept it up once the cycle ended like it was nothing. I've never seen that happen—ever.

 

Now onto the pics....

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broken bulb

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came off one of the lower sweeps

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sweet shop goodies

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Flying bEagles

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Coney Mall sign still M.I.A.

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Do you know where is this is at? 3... 2... 1...

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Viking Fury!

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If the Crypt building ever comes down, that could open space to a new coaster there, no?

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80's store is back, near La Rosa's on International Street

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Actually, we can probably expect the former Crypt building to be used for Kings Island's dark ride when it comes sometime in 2017 or later. Could see them doing a coaster/dark ride hybrid like what they did with Guardian, and would have plenty of room to do it entirely indoors.

 

There's already a basic crypt theme to it so if they expanded the theme to be based around a central creature like they've done with Guardian and Voyage, then add some sort of thrill factor to it to differentiate it from Boo Blasters, would be a rather successful hit. Certainly not a replacement for a Giant Top Spin, but certainly better than letting the building sit unused for majority of the season.

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There's already a basic crypt theme to it so if they expanded the theme to be based around a central creature like they've done with Guardian and Voyage, then add some sort of thrill factor to it to differentiate it from Boo Blasters, would be a rather successful hit. Certainly not a replacement for a Giant Top Spin, but certainly better than letting the building sit unused for majority of the season.

 

Personally, I would consider it a big improvement over a Giant Top Spin.

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Quick question, why hasn't The Beasts lift hill ever been sped up? The lift on that coaster is close to the slowest I have ever seen./quote]

 

The beast is considered one of the top wooden coasters in the country, so I've just assumed it is to build anxiety to the first drop. It's almost like a right of passage haha. I've also heard warnings about no phones and prepare to meet the beast play from speakers on the sides of the lift hill, but that is hit and miss.

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Quick question, why hasn't The Beasts lift hill ever been sped up? The lift on that coaster is close to the slowest I have ever seen.

 

Plus thanks for all the FL replies from earlier.

 

It's for timing and means that the operators are on top of their game and made interval. The train on the first lift cannot go up and over until the train on the 2nd lift goes over, so that's why it creeps for a majority of the first lift. Essentially think of the 2nd lift as a very long and slow block brake and the train on it must be clear of it before the next train on the first lift can advance to the next block.

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I've always noticed that once a train clears the second lift, the chain for the first one speeds up. It MIGHT be a power thing. Also after you come out of the second tunnel and you head to the right, that whole section until you get to the second lift seems to have some stakes on the right side. More than likely since I also saw chain/screening for a fence, It will be a fence . Whether or not its permanent or not I honestly couldn't tell you. I still think they can fit a B&m Giga in over between Racer and FOF. Maybe an Intamin giga? They could place the station in between FOF and Racer.

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^Which on both rides has changed over the years. Originally on Beast the trains would be at the top of their respective hills at the same time. Now they have changed it and this is why the first hill is so slow. Now the train is almost midway through the helix or farther before the first hill increases speed. In the 90s it was normal speed all the way up the hill and you could see the second hill crested as you crested the first hill. Same with The Bat/Top Gun. When I operated it back it the mid 90s it never slowed down unless the driver was late bringing in the second train from the readies. Now it slows every time. I think they have changed the trigger point on the block brakes because the second train is usually clear of the readies and mostly in the station when the lift hill slows. Might have something to do with when Top Gun had the accident in the late 90s where the train blew right through the readies. I am no ride mechanic but this is my observations over the years.

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^Which on both rides has changed over the years. Originally on Beast the trains would be at the top of their respective hills at the same time. Now they have changed it and this is why the first hill is so slow. Now the train is almost midway through the helix or farther before the first hill increases speed. In the 90s it was normal speed all the way up the hill and you could see the second hill crested as you crested the first hill. Same with The Bat/Top Gun. When I operated it back it the mid 90s it never slowed down unless the driver was late bringing in the second train from the readies. Now it slows every time. I think they have changed the trigger point on the block brakes because the second train is usually clear of the readies and mostly in the station when the lift hill slows. Might have something to do with when Top Gun had the accident in the late 90s where the train blew right through the readies. I am no ride mechanic but this is my observations over the years.

Originally, to my knowledge, the MCBR shed was a block brake and could completely halt a train if needed. That is no longer the case today. This would explain the lift speed discrepancy between now and pre-magnetic trims.

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When I worked on Flight Deck ( yeah that's right, I called it Flight Deck, I took pride in hamming up that name!), I eventually got the timing down right where I could get the train in the station and clear of the ready breaks before the second train on the lift hit the sensor and the lift slowed. Proud moment for a young ride operator...

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