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Why did Vekoma bother with dual station? I think an arrangement like millennium forces unload stop and then into the station is less complicated and works very well with a good crew. Come to think of it why do the Intamin rocket coasters use the more complicated arrangement which i hear is not used anymore on Kingda Ka (because it sucks) but Top Thrill Dragster still does...

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When X-Flight (now Firehawk) was new, the dual-station seemed to work great and they were dispatching folks pretty efficiently. Now the fast lane plus gets to board on the right side and the rest on the left. This works great if you have FLP and you want to ride more than once (sucks for the rest though).

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Why did Vekoma bother with dual station? I think an arrangement like millennium forces unload stop and then into the station is less complicated and works very well with a good crew. Come to think of it why do the Intamin rocket coasters use the more complicated arrangement which i hear is not used anymore on Kingda Ka (because it sucks) but Top Thrill Dragster still does...

The TTD ops are really efficient and get people through quickly, so its a good design for them because they can dispatch twice as many people. But on Kingda Ka, the ops are MUCH slower.

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Why did Vekoma bother with dual station? I think an arrangement like millennium forces unload stop and then into the station is less complicated and works very well with a good crew. Come to think of it why do the Intamin rocket coasters use the more complicated arrangement which i hear is not used anymore on Kingda Ka (because it sucks) but Top Thrill Dragster still does...

 

And ttd uses the unload then load, like MF, but they just do it with two trains.

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When X-Flight (now Firehawk) was new, the dual-station seemed to work great and they were dispatching folks pretty efficiently. Now the fast lane plus gets to board on the right side and the rest on the left. This works great if you have FLP and you want to ride more than once (sucks for the rest though).

 

So they devote the whole station to Fast Lane, meaning every other ride on a given train is Fast Lane only? That makes no sense and would seem to reduce the capacity more than if they just merged Fastlaners in. Or just pull a Six Flags and don't use the second side - this would have been good when the ride had 3 trains as X-Flight (I believe it did, right?), but now it serves absolutely no purpose at all.

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When X-Flight (now Firehawk) was new, the dual-station seemed to work great and they were dispatching folks pretty efficiently. Now the fast lane plus gets to board on the right side and the rest on the left. This works great if you have FLP and you want to ride more than once (sucks for the rest though).

 

So they devote the whole station to Fast Lane, meaning every other ride on a given train is Fast Lane only? That makes no sense and would seem to reduce the capacity more than if they just merged Fastlaners in. Or just pull a Six Flags and don't use the second side - this would have been good when the ride had 3 trains as X-Flight (I believe it did, right?), but now it serves absolutely no purpose at all.

That's not true. When I went to KI, I got FL+ and they would fill the right station with all the FL+ people and fill in the rest of the open spots with the normal lines. So in theory, if there were 24 or more FL+ people waiting, it could be a whole train for them, but they usually limit the number of FL people they let go at once, so it's unlikely that it happens often, or at all.

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Or just pull a Six Flags and don't use the second side - this would have been good when the ride had 3 trains as X-Flight (I believe it did, right?)

 

Though the ride did have three trains when X Flight first opened in 2001 it never ran three. They eventually cannibalized the third train for parts but I will agree that when SFWoA/GL ran two stations it was relatively efficient.

 

Even without FL I hate how Kings Island has Firehawk set up. It isn't efficient at all which is why I very, very rarely take a ride on it.

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Or just pull a Six Flags and don't use the second side - this would have been good when the ride had 3 trains as X-Flight (I believe it did, right?)

 

Though the ride did have three trains when X Flight first opened in 2001 it never ran three. They eventually cannibalized the third train for parts but I will agree that when SFWoA/GL ran two stations it was relatively efficient.

 

Even without FL I hate how Kings Island has Firehawk set up. It isn't efficient at all which is why I very, very rarely take a ride on it.

 

Firehawk should be the first thing you ride before the GP gets there because its a very slow line. FoF is kinda slow too (I think, but I'm not totally sure.) Diamondback (and hopefully Banshee) are people-eating machines like most B&Ms.

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That color scheme looks a lit better in person than it did in the animation, I like it! I bet this thing will go up fast, I wouldn't be surprised if they have all of the track installed before Christmas.

 

Say what you will about B&M but they're usually pretty good when it comes to having their rides ready for opening day.

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^It's definitely a combination of many things. Construction manager, park pushing to meet deadlines, and also manufacturer input and design quality. The better designed (not speaking of layout, forces, or any of that stuff, but actual technical qualities) something is and more thought out its construction is during the design process, the easier it will be to build.

 

I love the color scheme. I cannot wait to ride this in the Spring.

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We have had a really nice summer here in the KI area. If that continues, there's no reason they shouldn't have the ride done by Thanksgiving. Could be seeing test runs before Christmas possibly. It has been unseasonably mild and dry this year so that has to help alot.

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Here's a few Banshee Construction pics from today thanks to Cassy & Travis:

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Yesssss! Track!

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More supports...

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Pieces of stuff...

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More footers and things...

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Travis jumped REALLY high in the air to get this pic.

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TRADE SECRET!!! This ice cream is actually made out of real Smurfs!

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It's "Dollar Days" at Kings Island!

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You too can re-create the Coney Island hot dog eating contest for about seventy bucks!

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