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p. 792 - Camp Cedar campground to open in 2021!

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I honestly can't wait to go next year. My sister lives like 15 minutes away from the park! The last time i've been to King's Island was when Diamondback opened. I'm loving the color scheme, and wish more parks would be adventurous with their coaster colors! No mid-course break run is a plus, and the awesome pretzel/batwing element is HUGE. Based on the POV's, it looks like the coaster picks up some speed at the bottom of the two inversions.

 

I do think that over time, a few of the BMTR clones have become a bit too "head-bangy" for me. At my home park, SFOG, I can only stand to ride it once or twice. More rides than that and I have a massive headache. These restraints remind me a lot of the Vekoma vest-style restraints they used on Carolina Cobra, which i really prefer over the usual horse-collars (even on a Vekoma)

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I just hope the ride has some "balls" unlike most recent B&M's. I'm not saying it has to be Batman: The Ride Intense, but a few moments of intensity would be nice.

Well, it seems to me that the ride seems to have a nice buildup to it, with some nice big, full throttle esque hang time inducing inversions, building up to the wickid fast/intense elements.

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^ I've noticed a lot of people saying they get head banging on the Batman clones. I personally never have. Does it have anything to do with body type?

 

Well, I'm 5'4 and about 110 pounds and BTR clones, especially in the corkscrews, do produce some headbanging. But for some of my bigger friends, (5'10 and 220ish. Yes, I'm friends with some linebackers) it's completely headbanging free. It's odd. But that's what I've found on the SFOT clone.

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^^The general consensus was that OzIris was not very intense, and I do not have that much hope for this one either. I can easily see it being another Talon or Silver Bullet.

 

However, I do have some strong positive feelings, as well. Although this may not be my favorite type of coaster, it does seem to be exactly what the park needs; it currently lacks a modern, high capacity looping coaster. So, even though this may not be my favorite coaster type, I am actually glad that they are installing this.

 

On an unrelated note, would this give KI a very Carowinds-esque lineup? The three most popular rides at both parks will be a B&M hyper, a B&M invert, and a Flying Dutchman.

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^^The general consensus was that OzIris was not very intense, and I do not have that much hope for this one either. I can easily see it being another Talon or Silver Bullet.

 

You are WRONG about Talon. Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Talon is 100% old-school B&M, every bit as forceful as Raptor.

 

Ok, you may continue.

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^ I've noticed a lot of people saying they get head banging on the Batman clones. I personally never have. Does it have anything to do with body type?

 

Well, I'm 5'4 and about 110 pounds and BTR clones, especially in the corkscrews, do produce some headbanging. But for some of my bigger friends, (5'10 and 220ish. Yes, I'm friends with some linebackers) it's completely headbanging free. It's odd. But that's what I've found on the SFOT clone.

The SFOT one is the only one I've gotten head-banging on.

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^I'd much rather have the Vekoma over the B&M in the flyer department. B&M's can get quite uncomfortable if you're sitting on the brake run for a few minutes since they can't load them any faster than the Flying Dutchmen.

 

I'd say Beast, Diamondback and Vortex are the top three at Kings Island but I think Banshee will replace Vortex on that list after next year.

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Yes, and I'd say the next coaster that would be removed (which is not techniquely necessary) will be Vortex. I understand it is popular with the GP (and I myself enjoy it as well) but now that Banshee will be coming along that will give KI more leeway in a decision to replace it. Now, I don't expect it to be going anytime soon, I just think it will be the next coaster removed.

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^I'd much rather have the Vekoma over the B&M in the flyer department. B&M's can get quite uncomfortable if you're sitting on the brake run for a few minutes since they can't load them any faster than the Flying Dutchmen.

 

The ops at Great Adventure were loading Superman a few weeks ago without stacking whatsoever. I'd like to see the ops on any of the Flying Dutchmen do the same.

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^^The general consensus was that OzIris was not very intense, and I do not have that much hope for this one either. I can easily see it being another Talon or Silver Bullet.

 

You are WRONG about Talon. Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Talon is 100% old-school B&M, every bit as forceful as Raptor.

 

Ok, you may continue.

 

Going to have to 2nd that notion. I rode talon for the first time 2 weeks ago and it's the most forceful invert I have ridden. I can't remember how Raptor felt because I was too young to pay attention to such things when I rode it 6 years ago. I also rode Afterburn at Carowinds the same week and it didn't seem to come close to Talon. Personally, I don't like the Batman clones that much, but for some reason Goliath at SFFT seems a lot better. I don't know if it's the placement or that it's a mirrored version to all the others i've ridden, SFOT, SFMM, SFGAdv, and SFOG, they all drop to the left where Goliath drops to the right.

 

Back onto the subject at hand, I have been hoping that B&M would design a new invert because personally inverted rides are my favorite. IMO, speed can sometimes make up for the lack of force and I hope this one doesn't lose its speed.

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Just judging by the pov, Talon has tighter transitions and those ground-level turns at the end which are the most forceful part of the ride. Banshee's turns at the end are wider and higher off the ground. I could be wrong, but I doubt this ride will be much like Talon. More like Alpengeist, bigger inversions, more speed, less force.

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Banshee should be able to get my dad to take us all down to Kings Island this year. My school goes to Worlds of Fun, and since Kentucky Kingdom isn't too far I hope to go there. I finally got a Club TPR membership so hopefully I can get to HolliWood nights too. 2014 should be a good year for me coaster-wise.

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Just judging by the pov, Talon has tighter transitions and those ground-level turns at the end which are the most forceful part of the ride. Banshee's turns at the end are wider and higher off the ground. I could be wrong, but I doubt this ride will be much like Talon. More like Alpengeist, bigger inversions, more speed, less force.

 

"Judging by the POV" Is a great way to start off a post.

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Just judging by the pov, Talon has tighter transitions and those ground-level turns at the end which are the most forceful part of the ride. Banshee's turns at the end are wider and higher off the ground. I could be wrong, but I doubt this ride will be much like Talon. More like Alpengeist, bigger inversions, more speed, less force.

 

"Judging by the POV" Is a great way to start off a post.

 

Um, I've been riding Talon every year since it opened, and I'm pretty sure everyone is judging Banshee based off the POV, unless you think there's somebody who's ridden it already. I checked the POV of Talon before posting just to make sure my actual experience of the ride felt about the same as it looked in the video, which it does. Do you disagree with anything I said or were you just pointing out that you shouldn't make judgments on a ride based purely on a video (which I tend to agree with)?

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Just judging by the pov, Talon has tighter transitions and those ground-level turns at the end which are the most forceful part of the ride. Banshee's turns at the end are wider and higher off the ground. I could be wrong, but I doubt this ride will be much like Talon. More like Alpengeist, bigger inversions, more speed, less force.

 

Where do people get the idea that Alpengeist is forceless? I grayed out by the cobra roll on every ride during my last visit. Alpengeist is the perfect example of how a plus size invert should be- a mixture and balance of graceful maneuvers as well as quick forceful elements.

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^^The general consensus was that OzIris was not very intense, and I do not have that much hope for this one either. I can easily see it being another Talon or Silver Bullet.

 

You are WRONG about Talon. Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Talon is 100% old-school B&M, every bit as forceful as Raptor.

 

Ok, you may continue.

Buuut Raptor wasn't forceful when I rode it. I'd rather ride Batman.

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