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P. 829: Adventure Port themed area announced for 2023!

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Random Question: What the chances that Vortex will still be around for the 2014 season? I know there was some discussion about a removal rumor a while back, but I'm not sure what's true. I don't think I'll be able to go until next year.

High. It's still very popular and I don't see it being removed for another 2 or 3 years.

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I'm an Arrow fan boy, won't lie. But the fact of the matter is, coasters have life spans. Vortex will be around for a bit longer, but it will be gone eventually. No one really knows yet when that'll be. My hope is that with today's technology, older rides can be refurbished to get more life out of them. Not necessarily as dramatic as Steel Phantom into Phantom's Revenge, or the RMC coasters in Texas, but just something that keeps the attraction going, especially if it's still popular.

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Don't let the recent rumors about the Arrow coaster removals scare you into thinking the coasters are going to be removed soon. More than likely still about 5+ years away from that ever happening. There's still plenty of parts floating around the chain from roughly 39 Arrow train cars (Orient Express trains in storage up in MI, Double Loop trains from Geauga somewhere at Cedar Point along with Corkscrew's 3rd train) and I think there's more uncomfortable, rougher ones that could go out first, like Anaconda at Kings Dominion than Vortex. I mean, it still has quite the large capacity for the park, and it could be staying until the next major coaster after 2014 before its removed.

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I'm an Arrow fan boy, won't lie. But the fact of the matter is, coasters have life spans. Vortex will be around for a bit longer, but it will be gone eventually. No one really knows yet when that'll be. My hope is that with today's technology, older rides can be refurbished to get more life out of them. Not necessarily as dramatic as Steel Phantom into Phantom's Revenge, or the RMC coasters in Texas, but just something that keeps the attraction going, especially if it's still popular.

 

Old-school B&M multi-looper to replace Vortex for 2018?

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Well Kings Island today revealed all the Fast Lane Details and the new thing is Fast Lane PLUS. It gets you The Beast and Firehawk and costs 10 more than reg. Fast Lane 45$

FAST LANE - Make the most of your day with a Fast Lane wristband that allows you to bypass the regular lines on more than 20 rides and attractions including Diamondback, Flight of Fear, and more. Ride as many times as you want all day long. The only thing we limit is the number of these exclusive passes we sell!

BUY NOW AS LOW AS $35.00

 

FAST LANE PLUS - For the ultimate Kings Island experience, upgrade to FAST LANE PLUS. Enjoy all of the Fast Lane attractions PLUS, unlimited rides on The Beast and Firehawk! A very limited number are available each day so buy yours today!

BUY NOW AS LOW AS $45.00

 

Huh. I may try it out on opening day.

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I thought Fast Lane included The Beast anyways... in fact, I know it did because I used it. So, I guess it's actually the $35 option that's new, not the PLUS option. PLUS is the old "regular", right? Or, am I just crazy?

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Yeah, they basically subtracted The Beast from the standard FastLane. I think the reason why they added the FastLane Plus was to add rides that they weren't sure it was a good idea to add previously cause of already existing capacity issues, but decided to add the "Plus" option to cut down on the people who buy it so that it wouldn't disrupt operations too much. They added Firehawk, Top Thrill Dragster, Nighthawk, and Volcano to FastLane at their respective parks under the Plus pricing. It's only rolled out to the major parks that have around 20+ FastLane capable rides.

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I'm an Arrow fan boy, won't lie. But the fact of the matter is, coasters have life spans. Vortex will be around for a bit longer, but it will be gone eventually. No one really knows yet when that'll be. My hope is that with today's technology, older rides can be refurbished to get more life out of them. Not necessarily as dramatic as Steel Phantom into Phantom's Revenge, or the RMC coasters in Texas, but just something that keeps the attraction going, especially if it's still popular.

This got me thinking about Mindbender at SFOG. It's been around for so long now. (Since 1978) It is still a great ride and always has been, but you said that all coasters have lifespans. When will Mindbender's usable lifetime end?

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I'm an Arrow fan boy, won't lie. But the fact of the matter is, coasters have life spans. Vortex will be around for a bit longer, but it will be gone eventually. No one really knows yet when that'll be. My hope is that with today's technology, older rides can be refurbished to get more life out of them. Not necessarily as dramatic as Steel Phantom into Phantom's Revenge, or the RMC coasters in Texas, but just something that keeps the attraction going, especially if it's still popular.

This got me thinking about Mindbender at SFOG. It's been around for so long now. (Since 1978) It is still a great ride and always has been, but you said that all coasters have lifespans. When will Mindbender's usable lifetime end?

Fortunately, the only issue Mind Bender would have is the trains aging. That can be fixed by getting new ones from Gerstlaur.

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Kings Island has sent us a press advisory as work continues to prep the park for its 2013 season!

 

Ride technicians rebuild a car for the yellow train on the Woodstock Express roller coaster Monday at Kings Island. The wooden roller coaster is located in the 12-time, award-winning Planet Snoopy kids’ area of the 364-acre amusement and waterpark and has given more than 43 million rides since it opened in 1972, the fourth-most in park history behind the Racer (97 million), K.I. & Miami Valley Railroad (50 million) and The Beast (47 million). Kings Island opens for the 2013 season April 27.

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I'm an Arrow fan boy, won't lie. But the fact of the matter is, coasters have life spans. Vortex will be around for a bit longer, but it will be gone eventually. No one really knows yet when that'll be. My hope is that with today's technology, older rides can be refurbished to get more life out of them. Not necessarily as dramatic as Steel Phantom into Phantom's Revenge, or the RMC coasters in Texas, but just something that keeps the attraction going, especially if it's still popular.

This got me thinking about Mindbender at SFOG. It's been around for so long now. (Since 1978) It is still a great ride and always has been, but you said that all coasters have lifespans. When will Mindbender's usable lifetime end?

Fortunately, the only issue Mind Bender would have is the trains aging. That can be fixed by getting new ones from Gerstlaur.

I know, it's really nice Gerstlaur is making new trains for the Schwarkopfs. Hershey Park got the new trains for SooperDooperLooper and they really look fantastic.

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Kings Island has been fairly quiet on the social media end of things, posting a couple pics on Twitter, but Facebook has been pretty quiet. I did see though that on the 14th they did post that work was being done on Racer this year, including the queue and station. I did find though that the blue side last year was brutal, as it's so far the only coaster to leave a visible bruise on my arm, so hopefully there's going to be some new track on both sides.

 

 

Did find this image that they posted on Twitter pretty cool, showing the wooden coaster parts stock. I can point out a couple of the parts here too! Did notice though that they still had the ride number for Son Of Beast listed there. Can't imagine they have many parts of that left. No idea what they're going to do with the trains either as Cedar Fair doesn't own any other wooden coaster with Gerstlauer trains so it's not like they can part the parts off to another park. Maybe they'll sell them to a Six Flags park since they still have a few of those trains running.

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^ It would be kinda hard to as the trains were modified heavily for operation on S.O.B. Also a lot of S.O.B is scattered throughout the park, for example a couple of the breaks on Adventure Express are from S.O.B. I'm sure that most of the parts can be used for the other wooden coasters in the park.

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They sometimes use the SOB trains as Haunt displays.

 

One year they used King Cobra trains with skeletons in them, as well as an old parking lot tram.

 

There are 2 really bad areas on Vortex that just needs new track.

 

When the train makes the turn toward the vertical loops, there is a terrible transition there, and on the MCBR.

 

I like Vortex, but can only ride it once or twice per season, however, I can ride Diamondback all day long. (that is actually what I do at KI, ride Diamondback all day.)

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Kings Island has been fairly quiet on the social media end of things, posting a couple pics on Twitter, but Facebook has been pretty quiet. I did see though that on the 14th they did post that work was being done on Racer this year, including the queue and station. I did find though that the blue side last year was brutal, as it's so far the only coaster to leave a visible bruise on my arm, so hopefully there's going to be some new track on both sides.

 

 

There's NO fixing that side of Racer! Its been like that for as long as I can remember from when I was a WAY younger kid! I think it's worse than Son Of Beast and Mean Streak combined! Its like the bottom of every drop the wheels turn into squares! The Red/Backwards side never was that bad!

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If you get there at opening and Firehawk is behaving then you can almost certainly get away with just regular Fast Lane (or possibly neither). The other factor will be the number of school groups there that day. Either way I hope you enjoy the park, it has gotten a lot of love the past couple of seasons.

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